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  • grey_matters 30 Aug 2012 20:01:37 3,386 posts
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    To be honest, I think I'd keep your current setup for another 6-9 months and get a Haswell-based system. The Q6600 is still pretty great.
  • Leolian 30 Aug 2012 20:22:27 1,050 posts
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    The problem is my attention has been drawn now. I agree with you really, especially since the new gen of consoles should be along soon too. I should really wait until a game I have to play comes along and I can't run it. I'm thinking rome total war 2 might be the one. Maybe company of heroes 2.
  • jellyhead 31 Aug 2012 11:04:09 24,350 posts
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    grey_matters wrote:
    To be honest, I think I'd keep your current setup for another 6-9 months and get a Haswell-based system. The Q6600 is still pretty great.
    I agree, i only upgraded because i'd had mine for 4 years and fancied something new. My Q6600 has run flawlessly with a 600mhz+ overclock! IT's 2.4 running at 3.04 and not a problem.

    I bought 2 Western Digital Black 1TB drives and mirrored them in my mobo RAID and i've gone from a HD4850 to a HD5770 XXX to a HD5830 XXX and the lil beauty was still holding up!

    I've heard that with good cooling you can get the Q6600 up to 4ghz! 0_o
    Bloody great bit of kit that has served me well.

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  • superdelphinus 31 Aug 2012 18:40:49 7,277 posts
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    Any good pre-built pcs that are worth buying for those that can't be arsed to build them themselves?
  • Leolian 2 Sep 2012 22:18:04 1,050 posts
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    Ah. I bought the scan bundle, my current mobo is a g31 so the PCIe is locked at 8x and is throttling my 5850 somewhat. That and the need to do a reinstall for 64 bit win7 and my new ssd made it seem worth doing the whole thing in one go rather than piecemeal. Should arrive tomorrow. yippee!
  • Leolian 2 Sep 2012 22:18:41 1,050 posts
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    All for DayZ really...
  • superdelphinus 3 Sep 2012 09:50:44 7,277 posts
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    comments plz before I hit the buy button:

    i5-3570k
    gigabyte skt-1155 z77x-d3h
    corsair 8gb ddr3 1600 vengeance ram
    seagate barracuda 2tb
    corsair 600w psu
    sony dvd thing
    samsung s22b350h 22' monitor

    all that comes to a bit under 600 and i want to spend another 200 or so on a gfx card - any recommendations? WAs thinking that amd 7870 looked pretty good value/performance
  • Buztafen 3 Sep 2012 10:55:51 15,957 posts
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    jellyhead wrote:
    grey_matters wrote:
    To be honest, I think I'd keep your current setup for another 6-9 months and get a Haswell-based system. The Q6600 is still pretty great.
    I agree, i only upgraded because i'd had mine for 4 years and fancied something new. My Q6600 has run flawlessly with a 600mhz+ overclock! IT's 2.4 running at 3.04 and not a problem.

    I bought 2 Western Digital Black 1TB drives and mirrored them in my mobo RAID and i've gone from a HD4850 to a HD5770 XXX to a HD5830 XXX and the lil beauty was still holding up!

    I've heard that with good cooling you can get the Q6600 up to 4ghz! 0_o
    Bloody great bit of kit that has served me well.
    Agree with both the above comments, every time i see this thread bumped up i always start thinking it's maybe time to get a fresh build going. But when i sit back and think about it i still can't fault the Q6600 @ 3.4/8800 combo ive had for 5 years.

    I only game at 1080p as i use a tv and there isn't a game i've played that hasn't run well with in the very playable range with medium to high settings.

    It's good to see others still singing the processors praises. Best 100 i've spent on a pc...though the bugger refuses to break the 3.6ghz mark!

    Plus ive just found out there's a chance i might be getting a free GTX 295 soon which should give me a nice graphical boost.

    Maybe i'll look into upgrading next year when Haswell arrives...maybe.
  • Daddy-Doom-Bar 3 Sep 2012 11:52:58 2,377 posts
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    I've got a choice between a socket 1155 mobo with the sandy bridge G850, with a possibility to upgrade to an i3, i5 or i7. Or an LGA775 mobo with the Q6600 with little upgrade options other than a more powerful Q. As it's a budget gaming rig, there's little price difference. But do the advantages and recommendations of the Q6600 outweigh the upgradeablity and flexibilty of the 1155/G850?
    Going by the DFPC specs, the G850 was throttling the performance when the GFX was upgraded, meaning a processor upgrade would be required if the GFX was.
    Whereas the Q6600 is a reliable well liked and widely used quad which can be easily overclocked if more was required of it due to a GFX upgrade.
    I'm wondering as I am limited to 8GB ram with a 775 mobo, is that enough for a few years? A 1155 mobo would allow me 16GB.
    If I had enough cash I'd get a better mobo...but trying to keep the cost down whilst giving myself a bit of room for upgrades in the future is a headache and full of the usual problem of too much choice!!!!

    Also, how much onus do I put on the make of the mobo? I know ASRock have a good reputation, but how much difference (apart from price) would there be to getting a lesser known make?

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  • Armoured_Bear 3 Sep 2012 15:55:48 8,751 posts
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    I'm building a gaming HTPC to be as quiet as possible.
    What's the best of the low power quad-core CPUs for gaming?
    Intel Core i5 3470?

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  • richardiox 3 Sep 2012 16:43:43 5,421 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    I'm building a gaming HTPC to be as quiet as possible.
    What's the best of the low power quad-core CPUs for gaming?
    Intel Core i5 3470?
    Still building it?! I'm sure I read a load of posts from you about this 12 months ago when everyone was answering your questions! Anyway as the previous recommendations will now be out of date,, that ii5 would be fine. Your main issue with a low power/noise HTPC build will be your GPU choice and getting the right form factor to fit a shuttle case.
  • Armoured_Bear 3 Sep 2012 17:26:27 8,751 posts
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    richardiox wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    I'm building a gaming HTPC to be as quiet as possible.
    What's the best of the low power quad-core CPUs for gaming?
    Intel Core i5 3470?
    Still building it?! I'm sure I read a load of posts from you about this 12 months ago when everyone was answering your questions! Anyway as the previous recommendations will now be out of date,, that ii5 would be fine. Your main issue with a low power/noise HTPC build will be your GPU choice and getting the right form factor to fit a shuttle case.
    Yes!
    Now I'm properly doing it.
    The GPU is easy peasy, an Asus 660Ti DirectCU which fits easily in the case which will either be Lian Li PC-C60

    Choosing between the cases is not so easy.
    PSU will be probably a Seasonic X460...

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  • elephantjuice 3 Sep 2012 17:31:44 554 posts
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    @Armoured_Bear

    I put together a gaming HTPC last month using a GD05, which must be said is a truly excellent case.
  • Armoured_Bear 3 Sep 2012 17:37:13 8,751 posts
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    elephantjuice wrote:
    @Armoured_Bear

    I put together a gaming HTPC last month using a GD05, which must be said is a truly excellent case.
    Cheers,
    I originally was looking at the GD05 or 06 but the limit of the GPU length made me look at the bigger ones.
    What's in your setup?

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  • Fake_Blood 3 Sep 2012 17:45:02 3,837 posts
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    This is going to be my next build.
  • elephantjuice 3 Sep 2012 19:39:09 554 posts
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    @Armoured_Bear

    i3 2120
    H77 motherboard
    8GB RAM
    Asus AMD 7770
    128GB Samsung SSD
    2TB HD
    500w Corsair GPU
    Bluray Rom

    Mainly for 1080p gaming and media stuff. Runs really well and is reasonably quiet. Perhaps could invest in one of these to improve things a bit.

    I take it the GD08 is a bit larger than the 05 then? The case itself is great but things started getting fairly cramped towards the end of the job. The wiring is a bit all over the place as a result but everything seems to run fine and stays relatively cool. It does look great under my telly though. It sits next to a Sony STR DH800 receiver which is practically identical in terms of dimensions so it all fits together very nicely.
  • Deleted user 3 September 2012 19:57:21
    Recently paid 405.00 for a brand new pre-built system which I'm currently enjoying Battlefield 3 on Ultra settings (shadows set to High), highest post-processing anti-aliasing, at 1680x1050 averaging 45-59fps. Not bad at all for budget gaming system.
  • Armoured_Bear 3 Sep 2012 22:00:42 8,751 posts
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    @elephantjuice

    GD08 - 440mm(W) x 175mm(H) x 425mm), 32.7 liters
    GD05 - 440 mm (W) x 151 mm (H) x 325 mm (D), 21.6 liters

    Yeah, quite a bit more space.
    Sounds like a pain compared to other cases to step though.

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  • whatthefu 3 Sep 2012 22:12:23 823 posts
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    CaptainQuint wrote:
    Recently paid 405.00 for a brand new pre-built system which I'm currently enjoying Battlefield 3 on Ultra settings (shadows set to High), highest post-processing anti-aliasing, at 1680x1050 averaging 45-59fps. Not bad at all for budget gaming system.
    System spec?
  • superdelphinus 3 Sep 2012 22:31:12 7,277 posts
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    i know i'm not really talking about a 'budget' pc here (though i'm really am sticking to a budget - but is a gtx670 really worth 40-70 more than an amd 7950? I will exclusively be using at 1080p

    also - is that samsung 830 ssd a good one?

    thanks. it's bloody stressful buying computer components.
  • Armoured_Bear 3 Sep 2012 22:45:38 8,751 posts
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    The Samsung drive is great, buy without worry.

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  • FutileResistor 3 Sep 2012 22:46:53 1,209 posts
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    comments plz before I hit the buy button:

    i5-3570k
    gigabyte skt-1155 z77x-d3h
    corsair 8gb ddr3 1600 vengeance ram
    seagate barracuda 2tb
    corsair 600w psu
    sony dvd thing
    samsung s22b350h 22' monitor

    all that comes to a bit under 600 and i want to spend another 200 or so on a gfx card - any recommendations? WAs thinking that amd 7870 looked pretty good value/performance Hope I'm not too late.

    That's fine although you don't need a 600W PSU for that build unless you are going multi GPU at some stage.

    XFX 450W Core Edition Pro PSU for 37.29 is fine.
    i5-3570K 170
    Z77 Mboard 80
    Corsair 8GB Vengeance 40
    Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB 72. 5900RPM so maybe not an OS drive but that's why we always recommend a SSD. Samsung 830 128GB as always.
    Sony DVD Writer 15
    ViewSonic VX2336S-LED 23" Samsung monitors are great in general but are it's 22inches. This is a very good cheap IPS monitor for 125

    I make that around 540.

    Also you might want to hold your horses on the 7870. AMD are adjusting their prices in response to the 660Ti and there has been a little movement on the 7850 and 7870 in the last week or so.

    Edited by FutileResistor at 22:48:16 03-09-2012
  • FutileResistor 3 Sep 2012 23:04:32 1,209 posts
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    Daddy-Doom-Bar wrote:
    I've got a choice between a socket 1155 mobo with the sandy bridge G850, with a possibility to upgrade to an i3, i5 or i7. Or an LGA775 mobo with the Q6600 with little upgrade options other than a more powerful Q. As it's a budget gaming rig, there's little price difference. But do the advantages and recommendations of the Q6600 outweigh the upgradeablity and flexibilty of the 1155/G850?
    Going by the DFPC specs, the G850 was throttling the performance when the GFX was upgraded, meaning a processor upgrade would be required if the GFX was.
    Whereas the Q6600 is a reliable well liked and widely used quad which can be easily overclocked if more was required of it due to a GFX upgrade.
    I'm wondering as I am limited to 8GB ram with a 775 mobo, is that enough for a few years? A 1155 mobo would allow me 16GB.
    If I had enough cash I'd get a better mobo...but trying to keep the cost down whilst giving myself a bit of room for upgrades in the future is a headache and full of the usual problem of too much choice!!!!

    Also, how much onus do I put on the make of the mobo? I know ASRock have a good reputation, but how much difference (apart from price) would there be to getting a lesser known make?
    If you're buying now of course you should go with the Sandy or Ivy bridge. Do not buy a Q6600. It's 5 years old.

    The Q6600 is well regarded because lots of people got these 4 or 5 years ago and are still runnning these overclocked to above 3.0GHz.

    Upgrading to an ivy bridge or sandy bridge CPU gives existing Q6600 users very little performance increase. Many have kept the CPU and just upgraded the graphics card.

    ASRock is a subsidiary of Asus and should be fairly reliable.

    If want upgrade options and think you will want to overclock in future. Get a Z77 motherboard with a G850 or i3-2120 CPU. This will allow you to get an i5-2500K or a i5-3570K later if you want to overclock.
  • FutileResistor 3 Sep 2012 23:05:46 1,209 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    I'm building a gaming HTPC to be as quiet as possible.
    What's the best of the low power quad-core CPUs for gaming?
    Intel Core i5 3470?
    Yes. I'm assuming you're not going to be overclocking an HTPC obviously.

    Edited by FutileResistor at 23:13:01 03-09-2012
  • superdelphinus 3 Sep 2012 23:09:26 7,277 posts
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    great - thank you so much. i'm so close to buying this stuff but i'm still getting confused by graphics stuff. I've changed my mind on the 2gb hdd and just getting a 1tb toshiba one which is 20 odd quid cheaper and probably more than enough for now. also the monitor is a 'LG IPS224V 22 inch LED Backlit IPS Monitor' which is only 106 and has good reviews.

    where I am with graphics cards is that I don't mind buying a gtx 670 but I want it actually to be worth the extra cost over a 7950 or even a 7850/70, given that I could then also buy the z77 mobo rather than the z77x one (I will probably get two cards in the future, hence the psu) and save another 20. I simply can't find any compelling evidence one way or the other.

    I don't really play blockbuster type games - it will probably just be limited to things like pcars, rfactor 2, civ type games, armA 2/3 the sims etc (the wife and kid ;)). IF I can run those sorts of games with pretty much max settings and 60fps I will be happy.

    HELP ME PLEASE!!

    Edited by superdelphinus at 23:11:03 03-09-2012
  • superdelphinus 3 Sep 2012 23:10:05 7,277 posts
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    it's amazing I can write that sort of stuff now, given that about 48 hours ago I knew almost fuck all about any of this
  • FutileResistor 3 Sep 2012 23:10:25 1,209 posts
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    CaptainQuint wrote:
    Recently paid 405.00 for a brand new pre-built system which I'm currently enjoying Battlefield 3 on Ultra settings (shadows set to High), highest post-processing anti-aliasing, at 1680x1050 averaging 45-59fps. Not bad at all for budget gaming system.
    Don't keep us in suspense. where did you get it from?

    Since most of the people giving advice are self-builders we really haven't got much experience when it comes to recoommending pre-built, especially since Easy-PC went out of business.
  • richardiox 3 Sep 2012 23:40:08 5,421 posts
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    @superdelphinus

    Wouldn't ever bother running two GPUs in your system - double the noise, extra power draw, driver and compatability issues. Better off selling your current card and putting your money towards a new one.
  • superdelphinus 3 Sep 2012 23:45:38 7,277 posts
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    cool, thanks. but which card should I buy?!
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