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  • dominalien 25 Jul 2012 22:56:26 6,848 posts
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    Oh, and I just checked and a computer will power up with no RAM at all and an unpowered gfx card. I'm not sure it would power on without a CPU, and am too lazy to check.

    Basically, what you need connect to the motherboard to be able to turn it on are the long power plug plus the separate 4-pin one, the power switch plus the CPU fan or power led to verify it's working. I'd say the CPU has to be installed as well. With this, you should have a computer that will "turn on", start spinning the PSU/CPU fans and light up the power led.

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  • dagoberto 25 Jul 2012 23:08:31 279 posts
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    @elephantjuice
    more amps 12v rail (34 vs 28 i think?)
    5 v 3 year warranty
    also its a seasonic unit (who are rated very high)
    it may have 2 6 pin pci cables also (corsair has one)
  • Ginger 29 Jul 2012 20:31:49 6,830 posts
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    Ginger wrote:
    FutileResistor wrote:
    Just checked they're out of stock of the 330.
    I've had an amazon confirmation, but will have to wait and see if I get a "sorry" email
    Just a heads up that yes, this order was cancelled by the seller. Gameseek.co.uk Basically, they didn't have any in stock and it was just a made up price from their suppliers. Bullshit if you ask me.

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  • sport 30 Jul 2012 13:21:55 12,706 posts
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    @Ginger - did they still take the money?
  • Ginger 30 Jul 2012 15:35:38 6,830 posts
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    Nope, no money taken so I don't really have a leg to stand on. I sent them a shitty email which made me feel a bit better though

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  • OneLove- 31 Jul 2012 13:39:12 73 posts
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    Right, I've been seduced by Day Z and since my laptop is getting on a bit, I want a desktop that'll run Operation Arrowhead at a decent framerate at least.

    My budget is a max of £500, and after a bit of scouring these two appear my best options;

    1.) Gallant AMD 4100; http://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/Gallant-AMD-4100-USB3-94p1201.htm

    Specs;

    CPU: AMD FX 4100 Black Edition
    Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3
    RAM: 8GB DDR3 1333mhz (2x 4GB)
    Hard Drive: 1TB S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s
    Optical Drive: 22x DVD±RW DL S-ATA
    Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB
    Sound card: Onboard 7.1 Audio
    Case: Xigmatek Asgard
    PSU: 400W Xigmatek
    Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Warranty

    2.) Mass Effect (*cringe*) i5 3450; http://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/Mass-Effect-i5-3450-94p1369.htm

    Specs;

    CPU: Intel Core i5 3450
    Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Motherboard: Asus P8H61-MX USB3
    RAM: 4GB DDR3 1333mhz (1x 4GB)
    Hard Drive: 500GB S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s
    Optical Drive: 22x DVD±RW DL S-ATA
    Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB
    Sound card: Onboard 7.1 Audio
    Case: Xigmatek Asgard
    PSU: 400W Xigmatek
    Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Warranty


    They're both about the same price range, however the former has double the amount of RAM and hard-drive space. However, the CPU (AMD FX 4100) is not well regarded and since ARMA is supposedly CPU intensive, I have slight apprehensions of how it'd cope. Hard-drive space isn't a concern since I already have an external one from my old laptop.

    How do these systems hold up for a budget price range? Is it worth getting the latter and paying extra for more RAM? Are there any more pre-built machines out there that are better value?

    Cheers.

    Edited by OneLove- at 13:39:53 31-07-2012
  • FutileResistor 1 Aug 2012 21:50:07 1,228 posts
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    Neither of those are good builds for the money. The GPU is not good enough but the GPU options are not good value.

    I'm assuming you do not want to self build, which limits your options.

    This is a way of getting a decent system for less.

    Get the following Seismo i3-2120 Package with these configurations.

    Intel i3-2120 (it's dual-core but better than just about any last gen quad-core and even all this gen AMD quad-cores for gaming)

    No OS (Get Windows 8 for free and upgrade later for about £30)

    Asus P9H61-MX motherboard

    8GB DDR3 1333MHz ram (or the 8 GB Vengeance, it better quality ram although won't make any difference performance wise)

    500GB SATA III HDD (if you don't have a spare at home)

    22X DVD Writer

    Onboard GMA4500 (they've actually got that wrong, the i3-2120 is HD2000 onboard GPU).

    Onboard 7.1 audio

    I would get your mouse and keyboard elsewhere.

    EZcool Mesh Case or one of the others if you prefer

    500W PSU (stick with the generic PSU because the Xigmateks don't fill me with confidence)

    That makes a grand total of £282.72

    You can then buy a Radeon 6870 for £105.

    I would also change the 500W PSU for a Corsair CX430 V2.

    I make that around £413 to £423 depending on what you choose and quite a bit better than either of the two systems you link to.
  • azurelas_2 4 Aug 2012 06:26:22 1,113 posts
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    Anyone have any experience with home-plugs? The WiFi signal is too weak (it has to go through 2 floors of reinforced concrete) and having (theoretical) speeds of 200Mb/s seems fantastic.
  • dominalien 4 Aug 2012 07:44:44 6,848 posts
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    There's a thread for them. The bottom line is we all love those.

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  • THFourteen 4 Aug 2012 09:23:11 33,266 posts
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    @FutileResistor on my PC if you have to change the PSU its pretty much a rebuild...
  • mikew1985 16 Aug 2012 17:20:21 12,672 posts
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    Not really budget but given the 660Ti is now out, whats the general consensus out there (possibly isn't really one yet) is it worth upgrading from a Radeon 4890 for it(bearing in mind i was thinking of going for a 560ti)?

    The old girl still does OK, but she is beginning to show her age.

    Edited by mikew1985 at 17:21:07 16-08-2012
  • FutileResistor 16 Aug 2012 21:29:46 1,228 posts
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    It depends entirely on the pricing.

    The Radeon 7950 is the direct competitior and is probably a tiny bit better. You can find 7950s from about £240.

    If the RRP for the 660Ti is £250 and street price is around £230, it could clean up in this segment of the market.
  • FanBoysSuck 16 Aug 2012 22:07:10 1,480 posts
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    Definitely worth the upgrade performance wise, I went from a 4890 to a 6870 and that was quite a jump. The DF article show the difference between the 6870 and 660Ti ;)

    I'd give it a few weeks for the prices to stabilise though, the nexus review had them going for between £250 - £280 depending on manufacturer. At that price you might as well go for the 670.

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  • whatthefu 16 Aug 2012 22:25:39 869 posts
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    FutileResistor wrote:

    Intel i3-2120 (it's dual-core but better than just about any last gen quad-core and even all this gen AMD quad-cores for gaming)
    How does it compare to a phenom ll x4 965?
    I might want to upgrade my system since I had to reinstall my stock cpu HSF (noisy as sin) and the crappy tower I picked is too narrow for a decent HSF to fit.
    The one I upgraded to wasn't actually powerful enough which caused months of grating gaming performance.

    How is the stock cooling on ivy bridge i3s and i5s? quiet?
    The phenom ll cooler is terrible and has caused me a lot of trouble trying to find and install a replacement (mostly due to my inexperience and unfortunate tower selection)
  • mikew1985 16 Aug 2012 22:58:30 12,672 posts
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    Cheers fellas, in no rush, may wait a month or so and see. Car tax due next month which is ridiculously expensive here. €355!
  • FutileResistor 16 Aug 2012 23:41:21 1,228 posts
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    @whatthefu

    Sandy Bridge gaming. It's a i3-2100, but there's little difference between it and the 2120, pretty much equal or better than an 975 BE X4 on most games.

    It's a bit drastic to spend £150+ to cure a noisy fan and get minimal performance benefit though.

    Get a Casecom KSM-7288 for £16

    and an Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro V2 for £15.55

    Job done for £32.

    Or a Thermal Take Frio or a Noctua NH-D14 or other high performance overclocking HSF of your choice.

    Edited by FutileResistor at 23:43:01 16-08-2012
  • bodhi85uk 17 Aug 2012 20:14:40 179 posts
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    If you are considering a Sandy Bridge i3, bear in mind that the Ivy Bridge i3's will be along shortly. Benchmarks suggest 10% performance increase, and power consumption reduction too.

    Should be at the same price (i.e. sub £100). Its what I'm waiting for now, along with a price for the also soon to come nVidia 650
  • claire7q 19 Aug 2012 20:13:16 1 posts
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    chuffed with my wee self :)
    Just built my ever first pc - used pretty much the same spec as the Digital Foundry PC - although did buy 8GB RAM and 500W PSU in anticipation of future upgrades (go me!)
    Tried to work with Linux Mint for a couple of days, but got so frustrated with the graphics and sound not working properly, I bit the bullet and bought Win7. Teenager most impressed with FPS on Minecraft, hoping it'll do him well enough for a year or two. Still have no idea what half the jargon means but if I can build it, anyone can!
  • silentbob 19 Aug 2012 20:37:00 28,958 posts
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    Researching an upgrade to my now 4.5 year old core system (CPU, Mobo, RAM) and I was very happy to find thta you can put together a very respectable system for under £300 - one that'll give you plenty of legroom for overclocking once a decent cooler is added too:


    Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - £167.99

    GIGABYTE GA-Z77-D3H Intel Z77 Socket 1155 DDR3 PCI-Express Motherboard - £77.94

    8GB Mushkin Enhanced Radioactive Frostbyte 2x4GB) 1600 (PC3-12800) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM CAS 9-9-9-24 1.5V - £43.14

    Grand Total: £289.07 (Excl. of Shipping)
    ..very nice indeed for an Ivybridge 1155 based system.

    The CPU will hit 4.4Ghz plus with minimal effort and the RAM leaves room for tweaking.

    All of the above from Aria BTW, similar can be found at Overclockers etc. if you prefer.

    Edited by silentbob at 20:38:11 19-08-2012

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  • ZuluHero 19 Aug 2012 20:37:33 4,106 posts
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    Yeah i'm happy with my DF PC as well, with 8gb same as you (even though its only marginally better)

    So far its handled everything i've been playing on it just fine, and its pretty nice that they use the DF PC in all the face-off's since building it.

    For someone who has been out of the loop for PC gaming like me (upgrade from a 2004 Pentium-D), its really nice to get a like-for-like comparison using hardware you know is the same.
  • jellyhead 20 Aug 2012 12:37:24 24,350 posts
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    Gah! Been thinking about an upgrade for a while now, housemate's just got an i5 3750@4.4 and it got me envious again.

    So, what's the recommendation for an upgrade to a 4 year old:
    Q6600 @ 3.04
    XFX Radeon HD5830
    4GB DDR2 Ram

    I'm tempted by a bundle like silentbob's; i5 3750, mobo, 8gb ram and reuse my old parts or just go to OverClockers/Scan and get a system?

    I've this week off so it'd be ideal to sort it out this week. Especially now my PC has started to BSOD every couple of weeks :(

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  • jellyhead 20 Aug 2012 17:42:45 24,350 posts
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    Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean, that really got out of hand fast!

    :(

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  • Razz 23 Aug 2012 13:55:04 61,113 posts
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    Anyone know where i can get a cheap legit version of windows 7? I think it's time i upgraded from XP

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  • Razz 23 Aug 2012 14:14:59 61,113 posts
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    Mate, install the Windows 8 RP. It's free and you get to buy it for less than 30 quid when it's released.

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  • Razz 23 Aug 2012 14:19:16 61,113 posts
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    Question, I have Windows XP installed on a HDD, I've recently bought an SSD. I would like to upgrade my current install but also have the new OS installed to the SSD. Is this possible?

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  • Buztafen 23 Aug 2012 14:41:38 16,210 posts
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    Talking to yourself again Razz?
  • Buztafen 23 Aug 2012 14:43:30 16,210 posts
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    jellyhead wrote:
    Gah! Been thinking about an upgrade for a while now, housemate's just got an i5 3750@4.4 and it got me envious again.

    So, what's the recommendation for an upgrade to a 4 year old:
    Q6600 @ 3.04
    XFX Radeon HD5830
    4GB DDR2 Ram

    I'm tempted by a bundle like silentbob's; i5 3750, mobo, 8gb ram and reuse my old parts or just go to OverClockers/Scan and get a system?

    I've this week off so it'd be ideal to sort it out this week. Especially now my PC has started to BSOD every couple of weeks :(
    I'm interested in this as ive a very similar spec pc:-

    Q6600 @ 3.4
    8800GTX
    4GB DDR2

    Futile Resistor will be along soon jellyhead...i can hear him breathing. :)
  • Razz 23 Aug 2012 14:47:40 61,113 posts
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    Buztafen wrote:
    Talking to yourself again Razz?
    No more than anyone else, stone help with yours issue would be appreciated though

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  • Buztafen 23 Aug 2012 14:50:57 16,210 posts
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    I recently used this free program to clone my Win 7 install over to a new larger HD.

    You could upgrade XP on your current HD then clone it to the SSD?...if you really need to upgrade rather than clean install that is.

    EDIT: Actually i dont think its possible to 'upgrade' XP, you need to do a clean install anyway dont you? I'd just stick it on the SSD then copy over the files from you old XP HD before wiping it.

    Edited by Buztafen at 14:53:27 23-08-2012
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