The Budget Gaming PC thread

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  • grey_matters 25 Aug 2009 18:18:13 3,072 posts
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    There's been quite a few threads asking about building or buying PC gaming parts on a budget so I figure it'd be a good thing to have one with a list of suggested parts in the first post. I intend to update this first post semi-regularly both with any new parts which come along or with further suggestions from anyone else. Hopefully it can then be linked to whenever someone doesn't find it on search (or doesn't bother to search in the first place).

    The conditions for a budget PC are obviously a bit arbitrary so here are a few different options at differing price-points for use as a guide.

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    New updated suggestions (March 2012):
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    AMD light gamer
    AMD isn't really in a good position at the moment. They are difficult to recommend at any price-point. This system is designed to be a basic, cheap all-rounder. Gaming will be at the lower end and is usually only acceptable at lower resolution and/or lower detail settings. That said, it will get you started at a reasonably low cost and you can drop in a better card at a later date when you get more money. This system will be replaced by a much stronger FM2-based one when they become available later and so is largely a placeholder until then. There is limited upgradeability and it doesn't come highly recommended.

    Gigabyte FM1 motherboard £43
    AMD A8 3850 cpu £98
    4GB RAM £17
    500 GB hard drive £60
    Generic case £10
    DVD drive £12
    450W PSU £20
    Total £260


    Intel budget upgrader
    This Intel system designed to be upgraded over time (primarily the cpu and graphics card). The motherboard will accept the Intel i5 2500k which is a great cpu.

    Motherboard (Sandybridge) £67
    Intel i3 2100 Sandybridge £89
    AMD 6850 £108
    4GB RAM £22
    500 GB hard drive £60
    Generic case £10
    DVD drive £12
    450W PSU £20
    Total £388


    It should be noted that the power supplies in each of these computers is not from a "good" name. I haven't had any problems with them but that is not to say that you won't. A blown PSU can destroy other bits in your computer so if you have a bit more money have a look at the links below and choose a better option.

    The AMD system is quite low level (as you should expect from the price). You could drop a good graphics card in there at a later date and boost the performance enormously but as this socket is being replaced in the summer, this system (as is) will only suit someone who really wants a PC system now but doesn't have much money. If you have a bit more money than £260, but can't afford the £390 for the Intel system, you could exchange the A8 3850 for an AthlonII 631 saving £40 and adding the 6850 from the Intel system. This will be a massive upgrade that will play most games smoothly (though rarely at the top settings) and may be a better option for £330. For another £25 or so add in a 6870 instead and you will match the Intel system on occasion for a few pounds cheaper. There is no real upgrade path for the CPU so realistically you should wait until FM2 or get the Intel system.

    The Intel i3 is a fine budget CPU that destroys the budget AMD offerings. It also costs more though so people at the absolute bottom of the market may have to cut corners elsewhere to get one. If you can afford it, get it. It uses less power for more performance and it is upgradeable to i5 2500k on this motherboard. If you are not buying right now, keep an eye out for deals on the 6850/6870 (or even the 560Ti) as there could be movement in the coming months with the new generation arrivals.
    In general, to improve the i3 system (assuming you've already picked up a more suitable PSU):
    (1) get a better graphics card (6870/560Ti/7850)
    (2) more RAM (just because it is cheap)
    (3) get an i5 from the start

    For both systems, an additional SSD as a boot drive will add a lot of smoothness/responsiveness and a very quick boot time but games will fill it up quite quickly (and will only improve the loading times rather than the game itself). It is one of the best system upgrades that you can do though, so strongly consider it if it is affordable.

    Another consideration for a budget PC is energy consumption. You can save quite a bit each year on energy costs and the i3 is far superior (especially at idle) in this respect. You could also consider getting a 7750 instead of a 6850 as it will still game reasonably well but uses less power (again especially at idle).
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    Useful sites:

    Hardware Revolution. Posted by Dirtbox a while back. Very good information across a range of needs.

    Falcon Guide. Posted by FutileResistor somewhere. Another name for the The Logical Increments guide. Gives various options depending on your budget.

    (both of these site are US centric but the info holds true regardless)

    Lifehacker's First-Timers Guide. Posted by LockeTribal which he used (along with a previous version of this post) to build his first computer.

    Edited by grey_matters at 14:48:29 05-03-2012
  • grey_matters 25 Aug 2009 19:39:34 3,072 posts
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    Yeah, there's room for improvement on the case, power supply and graphics card. I'll add in whatever of the 5000 series suits for the graphics card. I can tag on some more options for cases or psu too if people would prefer.
  • mowgli 28 Sep 2009 22:24:25 31,850 posts
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    Ok someone find me a good bundle of CPU, mobo and ram for around £100 and you can name my next poop. Find me a Crysis/Empire confident GFX card for under £100 and I will mail you the poop.

    I have a case, PSU, HD. Once I get the above I'm going to use the remains to build a PC for my mum. DB linked to (I think) easyPC on ebay and they had some great bundle deals but I can't find any now.

    Pissy pants.

  • grey_matters 30 Sep 2009 13:01:48 3,072 posts
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    Hmmm

    The OP is now inaccurate by a few pounds due to increases in the prices of the X3 720 (presumably because of popularity/supply trade off), the RAM (DDR2 now becoming the same price as DDR3), and a bit here or there.

    I haven't updated the prices as the system is still pretty ok and anyone can shop around for lower prices once they know what to look for.

    I tagged on a few more improved options for those with more money but will do a proper overhaul once it is more economical to use DDR3 and when the 5750/5770 cards are out (both of which should happen very soon).
  • grey_matters 30 Sep 2009 13:06:45 3,072 posts
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    @mowgli

    You're asking a lot there really. Especially with the increase in RAM prices.
    (Sorry, missed your post until now)

    Maybe the above mobo and graphics card (4850), this cpu, and as much RAM as you can afford might just about be ok? Over £200 though.
  • grey_matters 23 Nov 2009 22:54:45 3,072 posts
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    Updated the OP with some more modern technology. Price has gone up due to a conversion to DDR3 and some (current) slightly bad value in graphics cards. Both of these situations should improve over the next few months.
  • grey_matters 23 Nov 2009 23:02:33 3,072 posts
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    blizeH wrote:
    Maybe look at the ATI 5750 - performs very well, fairly energy efficient and I think Directx 11 compatible
    Eh? I have included the 5750. Is it not linking for you?

    Edit: that exact card is the one quoted in the OP
  • grey_matters 23 Nov 2009 23:09:26 3,072 posts
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    Cheeky bastard
    :)
  • OllyJ 13 Dec 2009 09:13:03 3,097 posts
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    You haven't got a sound card on that list, this is essential!!!!
  • Deleted user 13 December 2009 09:35:26
    I'd like to recommend the Radeon 5770 for a budget gaming PC.

    The 5770 hasn't been getting super-amazing reviews but it has been compared to the 4870 when it has replaced the 4770, not the 4870.

    Anyway...

    It's cheap (£118 on Amazon, prolly cheaper elsewhere) and has pretty great performance for the price. It gets within 4fps of my GTX 275 in the Resi 5 benchie using the same settings (1360x768). O_0

    Not bad!
  • UncleLou Moderator 13 Dec 2009 09:48:16 34,665 posts
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    OllyJ wrote:
    You haven't got a sound card on that list, this is essential!!!!

    Noone with a semi-decent mobo needs a soundcard these days.
  • Jetset_UK 13 Dec 2009 20:47:17 3,478 posts
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    I find the monthly Bit-tech guides very useful.
  • Deleted user 21 December 2009 09:53:34
    Unless they're doing something particularly resource hungry I'd go for the cheaper option.
  • mcmonkeyplc 21 Dec 2009 09:58:40 35,847 posts
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    I need a new GFX card as my current geforce 8600 GTS doesn't seem to like running games at full hd res.

    Any options at around £150? I will mainly be using it for STO (champions online engine)

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • mcmonkeyplc 21 Dec 2009 10:04:30 35,847 posts
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    Ebuyer are out of stock :(

    I generally always go for Nvidia cards though. I have no idea why.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • TheSaint 21 Dec 2009 10:08:34 11,598 posts
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    I just brought a ATI 4890 for £135 odd from e-buyer. Not had a chance to test it out yet as I only built the machine on Saturday but had lots of good reviews.
  • mcmonkeyplc 21 Dec 2009 10:15:52 35,847 posts
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    So are ATI cards generally better than Nvidia cards now?

    /out of the loop

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • grey_matters 21 Dec 2009 10:32:45 3,072 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    So are ATI cards generally better than Nvidia cards now?

    /out of the loop
    It depends on a few criteria but there are probably slightly more situations where Amd/Ati is the wiser choice. What is your Cpu and monitor resolution?
  • freakzilla 25 Dec 2009 14:01:31 69 posts
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    What can I expect out of a 550w antec built in PSU? Some of the RAM, GPU prices have rocketed (made me almost break my goddam laptop), and some of the ones in the OP are discontinued or not in stock.

    Looking at mobo but all the southbridges seem to be too close to the PCIe slot. (especially considering the huge cards these days.)

  • Dirtbox 25 Dec 2009 14:20:04 73,664 posts
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    It's fine, people spending £120 on a PSU are just plain old getting ripped off. Some of the most stable PSU's I've ever had were OEM jobs that came with a case.

    +1 / Like / Tweet this post

  • freakzilla 25 Dec 2009 14:50:52 69 posts
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  • Sandbox 25 Dec 2009 15:41:25 327 posts
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    Just built the following including that artic power 700 which seems fine.

    Antec 300 case
    Artic Power 700w PSU
    Cheapo Gigabyte MB (GA-G31M)
    3gb Ddr2 800mhz ram 1x 1 gb 1 x 2gb (non matched does not seem to make any difference)
    Got given an E8400 which is now running at 3.6ghz
    WD 500gb Blue HDD
    Couple of second hand DVD RW drives
    ATI 4670 512 mb


    Seems to play most stuff fine, GTA4 etc - think the graphics card is probably the weakest link, so may blow £100 notes on a new one in the new year!

  • LockeTribal 21 Jan 2010 22:44:59 4,280 posts
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    Little bit of a bump here.

    Been considering attempting to build a PC for myself for a while now and, having bugger all experience with computer hardware, was wondering how difficult it would be to build something along the lines of what grey_matters has mentioned in the OP?

    Would I be better off tinkering with an old knackered PC first to see how I manage or just go for it?
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