Ridley Scott's Prometheus (spoilers within) Page 95

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  • ecureuil 3 Oct 2012 11:30:01 76,812 posts
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    @PenguinJim Good stuff. You'd have to assume the black liquid in the opening scene is different to the black liquid in the pods. We can have clear liquids that are deadly to people, but we also have water. .

    Seems the black liquid in the pods causes super fast evolution/mutations in anything. Obviously we knew the rate of growth was fast because of Alien, but this is a little different. There's a scene when they first go in to the ship where they show worms in the dirt, and there's a deleted scene that shows the biologist guy discovering a slightly larger worm and putting it in a container. Then after that, the even bigger worms emerge and kill him. Must admit I never made the connection between the smaller worms and the one that killed the two guys.

    The alien at the end wasn't a traditional xenomorph, but close enough, eh? I just took a quick glance at the alien wikipedia page and there's some quotes from the designer that I hadn't seen before, which explains things a little more clearly.
  • ecureuil 3 Oct 2012 11:32:23 76,812 posts
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    fergal_oc wrote:
    Wasn't sure about this in the cinema but looking forward to watching it again, looks like there are some tasty bits on the blu-ray but should i wait for the directors cut which we all know will appear sometime?
    I think it'll be years before there's a directors cut of it.
  • MrE26 3 Oct 2012 11:38:49 1,932 posts
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    They're going ahead with a sequel so if there is an extended cut in the future it'll likely be released to tie in with that.
  • ecureuil 5 Oct 2012 12:56:55 76,812 posts
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    Steelbook version of Prometheus implies a shared universe with Blade Runner.

    Edited by ecureuil at 12:57:07 05-10-2012
  • fletch7100 5 Oct 2012 13:01:40 7,319 posts
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    So anyone know what's this alternate ending in the Blu ray is all about
  • BinaryBob101 5 Oct 2012 17:30:36 22,964 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    Steelbook version of Prometheus implies a shared universe with Blade Runner.
    MERGING RIDLEYVERSES [0:58] From the Prometheus Blu extras seems to confirm this.

    The Grumpy Vaper

  • Deleted user 5 October 2012 18:42:55
    I doubt it's going to be more than a fleeting reference. Most of the planet is uninhabitable in Blade Runner, yet in Prometheus they're running about happily in the countryside some 70 years later.
  • Trowel 5 Oct 2012 18:53:09 17,761 posts
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    No-one runs about happily in Scotland.
  • roz123 6 Oct 2012 08:36:19 7,113 posts
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    A hilarious "honest" trailer
  • neilka 6 Oct 2012 18:10:44 15,954 posts
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    If the extras on the Blu-ray are considered canon then there's some pretty big stuff there, seemingly setting up a sequel.

    Weyland only funded the expedition because his science team has detected a signal coming from LV-426 (of Alien/s fame) rather than LV-223, and only David has been told about this.

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  • ecureuil 6 Oct 2012 18:18:35 76,812 posts
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    Interesting. Apparently the original script said the planet was LV-426 and they changed it right at the last minute. I'm not sure why they went to so much effort to distance it as an Alien prequel if they were going to do it anyway.
  • Steve_Perry 6 Oct 2012 19:42:38 4,258 posts
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    roz123 wrote:
    A hilarious "honest" trailer
    Brilliant. Even though it is a piss take, it expertly highlights what a dogs dinner the film was. I would only be interested in watching it again if it got a thorough directors cut.

    Just watched a couple of the leaked extras. So far they don't make the movie any more comprehensible.

    VIVA STEFANSEN

  • Lotos8ter 6 Oct 2012 20:22:03 2,359 posts
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    @roz123 - that's excellent. :-)

    Edited by Lotos8ter at 20:22:26 06-10-2012

    Fiat Lux

  • ecureuil 6 Oct 2012 21:01:52 76,812 posts
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    There's a lot wrong with the film but it's not awful. It gets plenty wrong but it does a lot of things right.
  • Bremenacht 7 Oct 2012 00:09:52 18,275 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    Interesting. Apparently the original script said the planet was LV-426 and they changed it right at the last minute. I'm not sure why they went to so much effort to distance it as an Alien prequel if they were going to do it anyway.
    That was probably the moment they thought 'Let's make this a trilogy!' :(
  • Kilters 7 Oct 2012 01:10:36 574 posts
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    @ecureuil Apart from special effects I struggle to see what it did right.
    Complete mess of a film and the Alien franchise needs to stop now out of respect.
  • disusedgenius 7 Oct 2012 05:28:37 5,331 posts
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    I think this list of stuff it did well is actually bigger than the number of things it didn't do well. The only thing is that the bits in the fucked up list are the real biggies (i.e. having the characters make sense to people).
  • MrE26 7 Oct 2012 08:03:36 1,932 posts
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    fletch7100 wrote:
    So anyone know what's this alternate ending in the Blu ray is all about
    It's not much different to the theatrical version, just a little extended, with references to the Engineer's homeworld being known as Paradise. Doesn't explain anything that the theatrical cut didn't.
  • RobAnybody 7 Oct 2012 09:18:07 894 posts
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    Kilters wrote:
    @ecureuil Apart from special effects I struggle to see what it did right.
    Complete mess of a film and the Alien franchise needs to stop now out of respect.
    Exactly. I'm also struggling to think of ANY positives about this rubbish film (besides the visuals).
  • RobAnybody 7 Oct 2012 09:34:35 894 posts
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    Steve_Perry wrote:
    roz123 wrote:
    A hilarious "honest" trailer
    Brilliant. Even though it is a piss take, it expertly highlights what a dogs dinner the film was. I would only be interested in watching it again if it got a thorough directors cut.

    Just watched a couple of the leaked extras. So far they don't make the movie any more comprehensible.
    I'm not so sure that a director's cut would help that much as we would still be at the mercy of the awful dialogue .........
  • Mola_Ram 7 Oct 2012 10:33:12 7,399 posts
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    I didn't think it was *that* bad. Disappointing, sure, but it looked fantastic and there were some quite interesting questions about where we came from, what our purpose is, etc. I quite liked Michael Fassbender's character, too.

    I've seen far, far worse. I would call it average-to-below-average.
  • Mola_Ram 7 Oct 2012 10:33:55 7,399 posts
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  • Bremenacht 7 Oct 2012 11:46:42 18,275 posts
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    ungh

    Edited by Bremenacht at 11:47:29 07-10-2012
  • ecureuil 7 Oct 2012 12:22:43 76,812 posts
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    Well the story was good. The main problem was logic in the way characters behaved, and some aspects were more complicated than they needed to be. Stopping the series now out of respect? Come on. This isn't The Phantom Menace, it isn't even Alien vs. Predator. It's the third best film in the Alien series and there's no reason why a sequel to it can't rectify the mistakes made.
  • neilka 8 Oct 2012 16:52:47 15,954 posts
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    Apparently the Blade Runner crossover was something that almost happened:
    http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/25155/-prometheus-links-with-blade-runner

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  • WiseFool 8 Oct 2012 17:10:07 874 posts
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    I thought the story was terrible and the characters wafer-thin. It didn't feel grounded in reality like the original Alien movie did so well. Really disappointed by it. The honest trailer is spot on.

    A real shame. I'll still watch the sequel though..
  • bad09 8 Oct 2012 17:14:51 5,903 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    ....It's the third best film in the Alien series...
    What, you're joking right? It pisses all over Alien from a great height. Quite frankly I wish I'd never seen it as it's ruined the bone ship element of Alien for me. That's before we even get to a squid thing and an avatar reject making an alien at the end.

    That someone can say it's part of the alien series in the first place let alone one of the better ones amazes me. Awful film, just awful :)

    Love that honest trailer BTW, spot on :)

    Edited by bad09 at 17:15:26 08-10-2012
  • ecureuil 8 Oct 2012 17:17:10 76,812 posts
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    Hyperbole much?
  • themanfromdelmonte 8 Oct 2012 17:27:00 579 posts
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    Michael Fassbender acts rings around the rest of the cast. It brings into sharp focus how poor the characters are written and acted, when someone convincingly playing a robot is the warmest, most engaging character.

    Someone ought to remind Ridley Scott that Bladerunner isn't his, it's Philip K Dick's story. And while they're there, assassinate him before he pisses on another classic.
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