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  • MetalDog 27 Feb 2013 10:56:56 23,448 posts
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    I like uncharted, so it's an okay thing - not wild about QTE though and it looks like they're going heavier on those than Uncharted does and it's always a bit of a gamble playing 'me too' with game style, I think. Also, no Sully - the boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

    I might play it. Won't be picking it up for a while though, Bioshock Infinite is my current game to lust after.

    That scene reminds me of swan diving onto rocks in the first

    -- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

  • Ultrasoundwave 27 Feb 2013 10:58:45 2,845 posts
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    MetalDog wrote:
    boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.
    Please put that as your sig.

    "Look at banner Michael!"

  • itinkuravinalaff 27 Feb 2013 11:00:17 191 posts
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    Highly polished Gears, Uncharted, Boobs, Violence! Yeah my type of game.
  • Deleted user 27 February 2013 11:00:48
    Razz wrote:
    Amusing but I didn't see much actual gameplay. Fed up with cinematic QTEs now. Next gen better not carry all that bullcrap on.

    Who am I kidding? Of course it will.
  • MetalDog 27 Feb 2013 11:05:01 23,448 posts
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    @Ultrasoundwave
    Since I don't have sigs turned on, I'm going to forget all about this and end up very confused when it's used against me in a debate six months down the line.

    -- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

  • BillCityfingers 27 Feb 2013 11:28:19 424 posts
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    AdamAsunder wrote:
    Razz wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCe8-1dbXZc&hd=1
    Amusing but I didn't see much actual gameplay. Fed up with cinematic QTEs now. Next gen better not carry all that bullcrap on.

    Who am I kidding? Of course it will.
    I just thought exactly the same thing. The amount of interaction there seemed minimal.

    "You can kill an otter in about a second, just kick it's face off."

  • bitch_tits_zero_nine 27 Feb 2013 11:31:23 4,914 posts
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    Yeah QTEs suck. Dragons Lair was panned critically so why in the name of our lord jesus christ did people suddenly think God Of War was awesome?
  • itinkuravinalaff 27 Feb 2013 11:36:13 191 posts
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    Good point.
  • Triggerhappytel 27 Feb 2013 11:42:09 2,435 posts
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    bitch_tits_zero_nine wrote:
    Yeah QTEs suck. Dragons Lair was panned critically so why in the name of our lord jesus christ did people suddenly think God Of War was awesome?
    Because it was awesome. But the QTEs were the low point. And Resi 4 also popularised them; I think that came out before God of War.
  • kinky_mong 27 Feb 2013 11:44:15 7,976 posts
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    Didn't Shenmue use them before Resi 4?
  • bitch_tits_zero_nine 27 Feb 2013 11:45:01 4,914 posts
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    Yeah Resi 4 as well. I guess.
  • Triggerhappytel 27 Feb 2013 11:45:58 2,435 posts
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    Yeah, but they seemed to quietly die after Shenmue. Those two games in 2005 seemed to pull them back into the mainstream, and they've been in EVERY GAME EVERY SINCE!
  • SomaticSense 27 Feb 2013 11:57:33 6,172 posts
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    Watched a few video reviews now, and well... is there still an embargo on sites showing the actual TR-style gameplay moments that the devs insisted was there? Setpiece QTE after setpiece QT goddamn E.

    When was it that gamers clubbed together and rejoiced in the wonder of minimal interaction during a scripted scene. Oh wait, we didn't. The general consensus is that most people hate overdone QTEs the same way they do forced poorly done stealth sections. So why do devs still keep shovelling that shit in?

    Also, the devs supposed 'anti-rape' stance regarding that scene rings more than a little hollow when the rest of the game appears to be more pervy than a Japanese school-based dating sim. Did they sample the creative directors porn stash for Lara's groans? I didn't realise QTE button presses were supposed to be such a turn on. Maybe I could create a sexy QTE app for people to use during their Friday night pulling sessions.
  • BillCityfingers 27 Feb 2013 11:59:49 424 posts
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    I don't mind them all that much to be honest, only when there's an over reliance on them. It seems some developers are struggling to decide if they are making actual games now or interactive movies. Less cutscenes (interactive or not) and more gameplay please. You can tell a story without wrenching control out my hands every few minutes. The likes of the darkness and bioshock are good current gen examples of solid stories that don't intrude too much on the gameplay.

    "You can kill an otter in about a second, just kick it's face off."

  • Deleted user 27 February 2013 12:02:06
    She is screaming because she falls off a cliff. She pants because she just ran away from crazy men.
    She groans because she is in pain.

    Your fucked up head chooses to make that sexual.

    Also video reviews generally show you all the early game stuff and leave out most of the juice for obvious reasons.
  • SomaticSense 27 Feb 2013 12:12:42 6,172 posts
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    Pepsipop wrote:
    She is screaming because she falls off a cliff. She pants because she just ran away from crazy men.
    She groans because she is in pain.

    Your fucked up head chooses to make that sexual.

    Also video reviews generally show you all the early game stuff and leave out most of the juice for obvious reasons.
    This "juice" being the stuff might actually determine the game's quality and whether you, as a consumer, may actually want throw down cash for it?

    If so, then they are failing at being reviewers.

    And pass off the groans if you want, but ally them to the excessive close-up arse and cleavage shots, and it paints a fairly obvious picture that has nothing to do with my "fucked up" dirty mind.
  • Deleted user 27 February 2013 12:14:29
    What close ups? I've seen no different camera work than a normal 3rd person game.
  • SomaticSense 27 Feb 2013 12:20:47 6,172 posts
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    You are kidding me.

    You missed where the camera shoots underneath her when she's climbing a ledge and zooms right in? Where does that happen to such an extent in Uncharted for example?

    She is so overtly sexualised. More so I'd argue than the PS1 games.
  • jellyhead 27 Feb 2013 12:28:50 24,346 posts
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    SHOW ME THE TOMBS! :)

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  • Ultrasoundwave 27 Feb 2013 13:03:58 2,845 posts
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    SomaticSense wrote:


    You missed where the camera shoots underneath her when she's climbing a ledge and zooms right in? Where does that happen to such an extent in Uncharted for example?




    Bum everywhere!, totally ruined the game for me!, etc.

    "Look at banner Michael!"

  • King_Edward 27 Feb 2013 13:06:23 9,372 posts
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    It's a nice bum at least.

    Edit. Lara's bum that is. Though Nate's is nice too.

    Edited by King_Edward at 13:08:04 27-02-2013
  • SomaticSense 27 Feb 2013 13:11:47 6,172 posts
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    Hmm. I was wrong it seems :D

    Although the Uncharted clone evidence seems to be rising...
  • anon_ 27 Feb 2013 13:15:31 151 posts
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    Pepsipop wrote:
    Ultrasoundwave wrote:
    anon_ wrote:
    Was looking forward to this, but having read the reviews, I've decided it can fuck right off.

    Really, we needed yet another derivative third person shooter? I'll pass, thanks.
    Yup, thats exactly what all the reviews have said it is. All the gameplay footage confirms it too.



    Jesus.
    Yep, all the footage makes me think it is identical to gears of war. :-/
    The same shit was pulled with Splinter Cell this gen, another series that was infinitely better when your gun was firmly holstered.

    I love videogames, but it's pathetic how juvenile the industry is, with more thoughtful gameplay elements taking a back seat to EXPLOSIVE ACTION time and time again.

    I'm so uninterested in this game now. What a waste.
  • L_Franko Moderator 27 Feb 2013 13:18:31 9,676 posts
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    For all you know you might be missing out on your game of the year.
  • kalel 27 Feb 2013 13:18:38 76,470 posts
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    QTEs are a gaming mechanic - in themselves they are neither a good nor a bad thing.

    They are generally used badly, which is the problem, but some games like Shenmue and Heavy Rain have made extremely intelligent and meaningful use out of them.

    Heavy Rain in particular was quite brilliant in this respect, because it didn't punish you for messing them up, it just made something different happen. This really enriched the gaming experience as the story branched organically, based on your split-second reactions, as opposed to painfully telegraphed good/bad branch choices. You could in fact suggest that QTEs made Heavy Rain.
  • MetalDog 27 Feb 2013 13:29:52 23,448 posts
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    I didn't particularly like Heavy Rain for a variety of reasons, but I have to agree that they made the best use of QTE I've come across so far.

    And not exactly a QTE, but I thought making me tie myself in knots on the pad to cut off my own in-game finger was very well played.

    Edited by MetalDog at 13:33:17 27-02-2013

    -- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

  • kalel 27 Feb 2013 13:32:04 76,470 posts
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    Yeah, Heavy Rain has lots to not like about it, but in terms of game mechanics and their relationship with the narrative, there was some seriously innovative thinking in there.
  • kinky_mong 27 Feb 2013 13:48:00 7,976 posts
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    SomaticSense wrote:
    You missed where the camera shoots underneath her when she's climbing a ledge and zooms right in? Where does that happen to such an extent in Uncharted for example?
    Whenever Chloe was on screen. To be fair that was because I always moved the camera myself to get the best angle of that perfect fictional arse.
  • Deleted user 27 February 2013 14:03:04
    anon_ wrote:
    Pepsipop wrote:
    Ultrasoundwave wrote:
    anon_ wrote:
    Was looking forward to this, but having read the reviews, I've decided it can fuck right off.

    Really, we needed yet another derivative third person shooter? I'll pass, thanks.
    Yup, thats exactly what all the reviews have said it is. All the gameplay footage confirms it too.



    Jesus.
    Yep, all the footage makes me think it is identical to gears of war. :-/
    The same shit was pulled with Splinter Cell this gen, another series that was infinitely better when your gun was firmly holstered.

    I love videogames, but it's pathetic how juvenile the industry is, with more thoughtful gameplay elements taking a back seat to EXPLOSIVE ACTION time and time again.

    I'm so uninterested in this game now. What a waste.
    I was joking. It looks like its own game.
  • Aretak 27 Feb 2013 14:30:29 9,934 posts
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    Pepsipop wrote:
    I was joking. It looks like its own game.
    That game being Uncharted 4.

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