What's America's problem? Page 168

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  • Dirtbox 9 Jun 2013 15:52:35 89,196 posts
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  • Deleted user 10 June 2013 12:14:45
    A view on the Freedom Industry.
  • Deleted user 19 June 2013 23:31:18
    "Jihadist's(sic) fear being defiled by pork. Jihawg ammunition promotes peace through the natural deterrence of pork infused ballistic coating."

    I swear Idaho's about two steps away from splitting into a Red North and a Blue South.
  • DrStrangelove 20 Jun 2013 00:04:59 11,019 posts
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    @meme

    lol... redefining cultural sensitivity
  • Deleted user 26 June 2013 15:40:30
    So. DOMA and prop 8 just got nuked by the Supreme Court. Gay marriage is now officially constitutional.
  • nickthegun 26 Jun 2013 15:56:14 71,644 posts
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    So the gay guys have more money than the straight guys. Good to know...
  • El_MUERkO 14 Jul 2013 03:22:31 18,243 posts
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    George Zimmerman is not guilty of the murder of Trayvon Martin, a Florida jury decided late Saturday.
    rioting in three... two... popcorn
  • Ashleyfiddes 14 Jul 2013 07:09:12 980 posts
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    Fucking hell!!! What a joke next up Oscar pistorios will get acquitted (I know South African but both should be clear cut cases) at what point does a 17 yr old boy of any race walking down the road with a drink and sweets turn into someone being killed??
  • X201 14 Jul 2013 07:17:56 18,169 posts
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    All female jury and only six of them.
    Why only six people in the jury?
  • Vice.Destroyer 14 Jul 2013 07:28:55 7,082 posts
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    The way I understand it, George Zimmerman was charged with 2nd degree murder, which was never going to stand, considering the circumstances. A negligent homicide charge would have been more sensible. But still. Not guilty is still outrageous.
  • skuzzbag 14 Jul 2013 10:41:10 5,950 posts
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    Yes they fucked up the prosecution,. Its like they don't watch their own TV dramas.
  • Gruff 14 Jul 2013 10:46:33 3,282 posts
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    Um.....

    http://www.michronicleonline.com/index.php/rtm-news-reel/13245-fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots
  • Deleted user 14 July 2013 11:38:14
    Interesting article on the Zimmerman case.
  • MrDigital 14 Jul 2013 11:45:24 1,885 posts
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    Just to play devil's advocate for a second, to explore the issue.

    What if Martin had actually approached the guy in a violent manner and started a fight with him? If you're Zimmerman and you're getting the shit beaten out of you and you're worried you'll get beaten to death or worse, is it the craziest thing to shoot to try and save your life?
  • Deleted user 14 July 2013 12:18:39
    We know he didn't. He phoned it in, was warned not to approach Martin, but did it anyway.
  • Deleted user 14 July 2013 12:25:40
    Gruff wrote:
    Um.....

    http://www.michronicleonline.com/index.php/rtm-news-reel/13245-fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots
    !!

    So 'stand your ground' allows you to chase down an unarmed teen and shoot him dead, but for a woman to fire warning shots against an alledged abusive partner (who was unharmed) it gets you 20 years in jail?

    Bizarre.
  • FWB 14 Jul 2013 12:32:00 53,920 posts
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    Maturin wrote:
    Interesting article on the Zimmerman case.
    Sounds like the verdict was correct. Prosecution fucked up and even a manslaughter charge would have been hard to prove.
  • FWB 14 Jul 2013 12:34:02 53,920 posts
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    Shikasama wrote:
    America is beyond fucked up.

    Warning shots ot escape a beating? 20 years

    Murder because your a background, paranoid racist? Nee bother, enjoy yourself.

    Won't recognize a gay couples right to marry, but will recognize a League of Legends player as an athlete?

    Fucked Up.
    What it highlights is that they are 50 states with different social views. Who'd have thunk it?
  • MrDigital 14 Jul 2013 12:34:13 1,885 posts
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    Bremenacht wrote:
    We know he didn't. He phoned it in, was warned not to approach Martin, but did it anyway.
    Reading the Wiki article I got the idea that Martin had started to approach the car, but in any case, wasn't Zimmerman still receiving a beating at Martin's hands before the shot was fired?
  • Deleted user 14 July 2013 12:36:49
    All Zimmerman's word, against the dead guy.
  • FWB 14 Jul 2013 12:39:06 53,920 posts
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    The article says that witnesses did support Zimmerman's statement, and he was largely consistent. The prosecutor's witnesses, however, lied and kept changing their story.

    But as it also says, the public will make of this trial what they want. Legally it was the correct result.

    Edited by FWB at 12:39:55 14-07-2013
  • Deleted user 14 July 2013 12:39:38
    FWB wrote:
    Shikasama wrote:
    America is beyond fucked up.

    Warning shots ot escape a beating? 20 years

    Murder because your a background, paranoid racist? Nee bother, enjoy yourself.

    Won't recognize a gay couples right to marry, but will recognize a League of Legends player as an athlete?

    Fucked Up.
    What it highlights is that they are 50 states with different social views. Who'd have thunk it?
    The warning shots case and Martin case happened in the same state, with the same 'stand your ground' law.
  • Deleted user 14 July 2013 12:42:12
    FWB wrote:
    The article says that witnesses did support Zimmerman's statement, and he was largely consistent. The prosecutor's witnesses, however, lied and kept changing their story.

    But as it also says, the public will make of this trial what they want. Legally it was the correct result.
    Zimmerman's statement(s) were initially inconsistent, and thrown into doubt by CCTV. The defence seems to have been polished-up nicely since. Unlike the prosecution, as you say. What a fuck up.
  • FWB 14 Jul 2013 12:45:32 53,920 posts
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    Gay marriage certainly is different across states. Painting the whole of the country with the same brush is poor. Very poor.
  • Rusty_M 14 Jul 2013 12:56:15 6,694 posts
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    Surely the juries in these cases were in a far better position to ascertain guilt than people on the internet?
  • SparkyMarky81 14 Jul 2013 13:04:44 599 posts
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    I believe the right verdict was reached in the Zimmerman case. Stand your ground laws didn't really apply here. Although Zimmerman had ignored the 911 dispatcher's advice and followed Martin, it is not clear who instigated the confrontation.

    The injuries sustained by Zimmerman (cuts to back of head, broken nose, black eyes) are consistent with his story that Martin was basically kicking his arse, and fearing for his life, he chose to use deadly force. What's to say Martin would not have ended up killing Zimmerman had he not elected to shoot him?

    As there were no witnesses to the whole episode from start to finish, it is not possible to say beyond reasonable doubt that Zimmerman's account was untrue.

    The media reporting of the incident really was poor in this case. NBC even doctored Zimmerman's 911 call to make it sound as if there was a racist element to this, which they have since been forced to apologise for.

    Also, with regards to the lady banged up for 20 years for firing warning shots, this actually makes sense. A warning shot is still considered deadly force and are illegal. You are only permitted to shoot in the event that you have a genuine belief that your life is in serious danger. The fact that she chose to fire warning shots rather than to shoot at her attacker would suggest this wasn't the case, and that she could deter her assailant with a warning rather than have to kill.

    If she had seriously felt it was kill or be killed, she would have fired at her attacker.

    Harsh but fair really.
  • MrDigital 14 Jul 2013 13:06:14 1,885 posts
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    Bremenacht wrote:
    All Zimmerman's word, against the dead guy.
    But he a torn up face and cuts on the back of his head indicating his head was smashed against the ground -_- That's more than just someone's word.
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