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  • Deleted user 18 April 2013 03:54:31
    I don't think there's a limit on how many times a bill can be reintroduced, though there may be an upper limit somewhere I'm not aware of (although there's certainly ways around it if there is). It's more a question of time and money.

    Edited by meme at 03:57:41 18-04-2013
  • Deleted user 18 April 2013 04:19:37
    To be honest, all you need to really do with regards to public feeling is look back at the election. If you believed the internet, it was either going to be a massive defeat or a very narrow victory for Obama. Instead it was a pretty decisive victory. The long and short of it is that only the outlying extreme types tend to vocalise their opinions on facebook, twitter and (irony incoming) message boards, and often those opinions are exaggerated and distorted simply for argumentation and trolling. The bill being defeated has little (perhaps even nothing) to do with public opinion and everything to do with money and power struggles.

    Edited by meme at 04:20:14 18-04-2013
  • Khanivor 18 Apr 2013 13:01:15 43,361 posts
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    The House has had 39 bills so far to repeal Obamacare so yeah, it will make another appearance. But it will make no difference till these TP duck sticks have been kicked to the curb. So I expect something will happen after 2016.
  • Deleted user 18 April 2013 16:42:46
    What bit of government is responsible for scheduling and arranging bills in the US? (I could Google, but hey)
  • Deleted user 18 April 2013 16:44:56
    http://dailyinfographic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/howlawsmadeWIRTH21.jpg

    That explains it pretty well. Or at least shows how freaking complex it is.
  • Khanivor 18 Apr 2013 16:49:44 43,361 posts
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    Basically, someone in the House or Senate comes up with a bill. They are meant to talk about it in committee, then it goes to the floor for a vote. IF it passes it must then go to the other chamber for more of the same. If it passes in both then the inevitable differences must be reconciled. When that's done then they vote to pass it again. Then it goes to the Pres to sign.

    Or, as happens now, the Republicans say FUCK YOU NIGGA and nothing happens other than they create some bills based on a hallucination of Ayn Rand with a less tenuous link to reality.
  • Deleted user 18 April 2013 17:00:17
    meme wrote:
    http://dailyinfographic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/howlawsmadeWIRTH21.jpg

    That explains it pretty well. Or at least shows how freaking complex it is.
    Hey - just 5 lobbying opportunities? Not so bad!
  • Khanivor 18 Apr 2013 17:54:50 43,361 posts
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    Here's a for real posting from the Facebook page of Mitch McConnel, Senate minority leader and professional turtle look-a-like.

  • monkman76 19 Apr 2013 10:32:39 11,868 posts
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    Depressing article on the gun control bill and the state of US "democracy" by David Simon (writer of The Wire):
    http://davidsimon.com/dead-children-and-monied-politicians/
  • RichieTenenbaum 24 Apr 2013 22:26:01 2,689 posts
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    I liked this video from the Daily Show

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE

    It's PERFECT righteous anger at the end.
  • b0rk 24 Apr 2013 22:35:57 7,383 posts
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    Why is gun control a good idea again?
  • Tonka 25 Apr 2013 07:15:36 26,461 posts
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    Head in the sand

    The same day of the marathon bombing in Boston, 11 Americans were murdered by guns. The pregnant Breshauna Jackson was killed in Dallas, allegedly by her boyfriend. In Richmond, California, James Tucker III was shot and killed while riding his bicycle – assailants unknown. Nigel Hardy, a 13-year-old boy in Palmdale, California, who was being bullied in school, took his own life. He used the gun that his father kept at home. And in Brooklyn, New York, an off-duty police officer used her department-issued Glock 9mm handgun to kill herself, her boyfriend and her one-year old child.
    Edited by Tonka at 07:25:20 25-04-2013
  • Deleted user 30 April 2013 00:06:14
    The party that shouts loudest about taking 'Washington' out of the 'equation', caught trying to put it in.

    Again, I think. Creationism must find a way!
  • Deleted user 30 April 2013 20:40:02
    Hurrah for Obama

    Barack Obama says Guantanamo Bay prison must close

    At the White House, Mr Obama said the detention centre was "contrary to who we are" and harmful to US interests.
    Not so sure about that though. I doubt half the country agrees with that.
  • ecu 30 Apr 2013 20:46:41 80,112 posts
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    Wasn't closing Guantanamo one of his campaign promises in 2008? I know he's faced a lot of opposition but it feels like it's a lot of talk.
  • Deleted user 30 April 2013 20:49:26
    It was. I don't see why it'll be any different this time around. Winning a second term hasn't changed his opponents one bit.
  • cubbymoore 30 Apr 2013 21:56:48 36,620 posts
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    It's interesting that when the Democrats get in the Republicans can still hold back reforms they're against. But when it was the Republicans the Democrats were powerless to do anything.
  • fletch7100 1 May 2013 12:41:28 8,367 posts
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    Kentucky Shooting: Boy, 5, Shoots And Kills 2-Year-Old Sister, using .22 Rifle he recieved as a gift
  • Mola_Ram 1 May 2013 12:43:46 16,327 posts
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    Ahhh Kentucky.
  • IMO 1 May 2013 12:54:15 6,595 posts
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    Quite apart fron the gun control debate, the level of stupidity from everyone involved in that is so staggering that it would almost be amusing if not for the fact that a child is now lying dead.
  • Mola_Ram 1 May 2013 13:00:24 16,327 posts
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    "...the boy received the rifle made for youths last year and is used to shooting it"

    He's 5. He's not used to shooting anything.
  • disusedgenius 1 May 2013 13:08:02 8,513 posts
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    Mola_Ram wrote:
    He's 5. He's not used to shooting anything.
    I dunno, he seems to have got the knack for it.
  • Mola_Ram 1 May 2013 13:08:54 16,327 posts
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    BOOM HEADSHOT

    Kids these days.
  • Deleted user 13 May 2013 00:56:53
    17 wounded at Mother's Day parade. Wonder what the NRA will say about that? Perhaps all mothers should be trained and armed before attending parades, or something.
  • Deleted user 13 May 2013 01:00:34
    Talking of the NRA.
  • ecu 29 May 2013 16:24:13 80,112 posts
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    I was a liberal mole at Fox News: From Bill O’Reilly to Roger Ailes, here’s all the inside dope

    Nothing scandalous or anything, but quite an interesting read if you're curious how Fox News/The O'Reilly Factor operates behind the scenes.
  • senso-ji 9 Jun 2013 13:01:48 8,070 posts
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    Alex Jones is at it again.
  • Deleted user 9 June 2013 14:50:35
    I love Aaronovitch's dichotomy - either there is no conspiracy, or he's one of them.

    Perfect jibe!
  • MrTomFTW Best Moderator, 2016 9 Jun 2013 15:02:21 47,189 posts
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    All they could do is laugh. "We've got an idiot on the show today".
  • Deleted user 9 June 2013 15:06:44
    I'm assuming the 'Nazi plan' re: the Euro is either the common misunderstanding of the 'Reich' concept, or the Nazis did plan a common currency across Europe etc. I'd be interested to find out, but not enough to search for 'Alex Jones'...
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