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  • gang_of_bitches 13 Jun 2012 18:36:17 5,637 posts
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    darkmorgado wrote:
    Hunt was always going to get away with it. Even without the LD vote, the tories had a majority over labour.

    Though apparently they had to go so far as ordering people back to the commons from holiday to ensure they had the numbers.

    Lots of talk about a big split in the coalition though because the LDs abstained.
    Yup, heard about that, according to the news one tory even came in from hospital. Do you have any clue as to why the Conservatives are working so hard to keep him? thin end of the wedge, layers of defence? actually believes Hunt is in the right?

    Maybe I'm just a completely naive idiot (it's quite likely) but I did kind of believe some of Cameron's claims that they were going to be a bit more up front in how they did things. Whether or not he acted inappropriately is almost irrelevant to me, it's that he didn't not act in the right spirit.
  • lucky_jim 14 Jun 2012 10:18:51 5,326 posts
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    So, anybody know who the two men and a woman are who have just been arrested for paying police officers?
  • X201 14 Jun 2012 10:28:58 15,587 posts
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    lucky_jim wrote:
    So, anybody know who the two men and a woman are who have just been arrested for paying police officers?
    One is a former Prison Officer, so it may be people who received payments from the press.

    Wouldn't surprise me if the other two were (ex)police or some similar public body.
  • lucky_jim 14 Jun 2012 10:33:58 5,326 posts
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    Oh right, I was just putting two and two together to make five and wondering if the woman was Rebekah Brooks (again). I guess not then.
  • gang_of_bitches 14 Jun 2012 10:54:39 5,637 posts
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    Cameron giving evidence now.
  • Deleted user 4 July 2012 11:02:28
    "Glenn Mulcaire has lost his Supreme Court battle to keep secret the identity of the person who instructed him to hack into mobile phone messages."

    My bet is Coulson.
  • Ginger 4 Jul 2012 11:06:48 6,878 posts
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    BeardofZeus wrote:
    "Glenn Mulcaire has lost his Supreme Court battle to keep secret the identity of the person who instructed him to hack into mobile phone messages."

    My bet is Coulson.
    Is the timing right for Brooks?

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  • X201 4 Jul 2012 11:20:10 15,587 posts
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    More arrests in Operation Elvedon

    "A prison officer and two other people have been arrested by police investigating corrupt payments to public officials by journalists, Scotland Yard has said."


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18704925
  • spamdangled 21 Jul 2012 22:11:58 27,413 posts
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    Rupert Murdoch resigns as director of the UK Newspaper businesses:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18940016

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  • gang_of_bitches 21 Jul 2012 22:59:05 5,637 posts
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    "corporate housekeeping"?

    That seems like a completely innocent co-incidence that bears no connection to the events of the last year or News Corps TV expansion ambitions.
  • spamdangled 24 Jul 2012 11:08:51 27,413 posts
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    8 out of the 13 suspects will be charged (including Rebekah Brooks, Andy Coulson, Glenn Mulcaire and Neville Thurlbeck). They are all charged with conspiracy, as well as individual charges relating to specific victims.

    More details about the precise nature of the charges will no doubt be on the BBC website shortly.

    They're pretty extensive.

    Edited by darkmorgado at 11:10:06 24-07-2012

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  • spamdangled 24 Jul 2012 11:10:38 27,413 posts
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    Cue an opportunistic Labour and a back-pedalling statement from Cameron in 3... 2... 1...

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  • Ginger 24 Jul 2012 11:25:33 6,878 posts
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    Brooks and Coulson both charged on the Milly Dowler case

    charge list at http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2012/jul/24/phone-hacking-cps-charges-live

    Edited by Ginger at 11:25:48 24-07-2012

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  • gang_of_bitches 24 Jul 2012 13:05:22 5,637 posts
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    gang_of_bitches wrote:
    "corporate housekeeping"?

    That seems like a completely innocent co-incidence that bears no connection to the events of the last year or News Corps TV expansion ambitions.
    Murdoch's housekeeping resignations seem even more timely now. Did someone tip him off?
  • spamdangled 12 Oct 2012 23:52:10 27,413 posts
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    Paul Dacre's response to the Leveson letter runs at 200 pages... and counting

    Also, is it worth perhaps renaming this thread now to something like "The Leveson Enquiry"

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  • X201 22 Oct 2012 23:56:45 15,587 posts
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    Spreads beyond Murdoch papers. Mirror group sued.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20036822
  • spamdangled 29 Nov 2012 11:24:31 27,413 posts
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    So then.

    Leveson's report on the first module of the inquiry today, the coalition split, and the press pulling out all the stops to fearmonger against statutory underpinning with lazy arguments and pleading the "give us yet another last chance plz" bullshit they've peddled for the last half century without improvement.

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  • nickthegun 29 Nov 2012 11:29:46 60,501 posts
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    To the layman it seems quite straightforward: Self regulation with an independant head and a far stricter emphasis on the police acting on illegal activities.

    Strictly speaking, most of the issues raised are illegal, so the threat of jail should be enough.

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  • spamdangled 29 Nov 2012 11:33:26 27,413 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    To the layman it seems quite straightforward: Self regulation with an independant head and a far stricter emphasis on the police acting on illegal activities.

    Strictly speaking, most of the issues raised are illegal, so the threat of jail should be enough.
    Sure, but self regulation has never worked and tinkering with the law will be seen as even heavier state interference than just setting up an independent body with statutory underpinning to enforce fines and publications of judgements ala denmark.

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  • spamdangled 29 Nov 2012 13:31:03 27,413 posts
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    Leveson's summary any minute now on BBC News. It's really not looking good for the newspapers.

    Edited by darkmorgado at 13:31:21 29-11-2012

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  • Psychotext 29 Nov 2012 13:35:05 54,402 posts
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    Hmm...

    The Leveson report into press standards recommends a tougher form of self-regulation backed by legislation.
  • spamdangled 29 Nov 2012 13:38:21 27,413 posts
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    Hm. Not liking the sound of that but will wait until I've read the report in full.

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  • nickthegun 29 Nov 2012 13:41:30 60,501 posts
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    Its an impossible situation. We want, need and deserve a free press but human nature means that freedom is immediately abused.

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  • MetalDog 29 Nov 2012 13:44:05 23,739 posts
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    Society is a constant battle between freedom and security. Seems to me every time you pull one longer, the other gets shorter.

    Still - given the hate and filth regularly peddled by papers like the Mail, not to mention the clear lawbreaking involved in this case - we can do better, I reckon. Whether or not we will...

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  • TheSaint 29 Nov 2012 13:44:23 14,622 posts
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    darkmorgado wrote:
    Hm. Not liking the sound of that but will wait until I've read the report in full.
    Show us on this doll where the free press touched you.
  • chopsen 29 Nov 2012 13:46:09 16,126 posts
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    Having a degree of independence to a body with the brief to maintain ethical standards and investigate complaints is not incompatible with a free press, though. The press argue that any form of regulation that is not entirely industry led will lead to the government controlling the press. Which is histrionic bullshit.

    Edited by Chopsen at 13:46:24 29-11-2012
  • spamdangled 29 Nov 2012 13:47:14 27,413 posts
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    I came of the opinion that hybrid of regulatory body and tribunal backed with a light bit of statute granting it enforcement of retractions, equal weight to them and the ability to issue punitive fines would do the trick perfectly serviceably whilst maintaining a free press and ensuring a fair and transparent process with - importantly - the tribunal setup of the panel consisting of an experienced expert on matters of the press (i.e former senior editors and the like).

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  • Gland 29 Nov 2012 13:47:24 78,465 posts
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    This is some dry watching. Can't they jazz it up a bit with some juggling dogs?

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  • spamdangled 29 Nov 2012 13:48:35 27,413 posts
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    Chopsen wrote:
    Having a degree of independence to a body with the brief to maintain ethical standards and investigate complaints is not incompatible with a free press, though. The press argue that any form of regulation that is not entirely industry led will lead to the government controlling the press. Which is histrionic bullshit.
    Precisely. The courts are backed up by statute and noone suggests that Judges are under the thumb of parliament.

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  • spamdangled 29 Nov 2012 13:50:36 27,413 posts
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    Statute to enshrine in law the freedom of the press.

    Like that idea. Should shut up the scaremongerers like Dacre and Murdoch.

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