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  • FWB 1 Apr 2013 19:35:50 41,992 posts
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    Don't think anyone disputes the logic behind them trying to obtain nukes. It's the belligerence that irks people. We know why they are doing it, but it doesn't make it any less pathetic.

    What trade routes would open with the North? They have fuck all to trade. The South would have to build the infrastructure and economy first.
  • alexc7496 1 Apr 2013 19:44:06 1,777 posts
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    What I am saying is if there was reunification and it was South led this would make trade with Chine a easier. Obviously big S Korean companies would love the fact that they're now neighbours with China and no doubt China would love being a blue to trade with the South as let's face it they can't trade with the North as they're in billions of debt with China since the 'friendship agreement' ended with the fall of the USSR and they had to pay trade prices on time.
  • FWB 1 Apr 2013 19:46:43 41,992 posts
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    Can't see how reunification would increase trade with China. Cos they'd have a land border? That means sod all. Any trade they want to do is being done now.
  • RobTheBuilder 1 Apr 2013 19:48:44 6,521 posts
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    @FWB well the rebuilding of a whole nation would likely need a lot of goods that china could provide easily and cheaply.
  • Maturin 1 Apr 2013 19:49:06 2,737 posts
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    It's a whole new country full of customers and cheaper workers. Think of all those people who will be wanting a Galaxy S4.
  • FWB 1 Apr 2013 19:50:43 41,992 posts
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    S.Korea cant afford to rebuild N.Korea, that's the point. They don't want the regime to collapse.
  • alexc7496 1 Apr 2013 19:53:25 1,777 posts
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    Land borders make trade far easier. Travel costs would reduce, customer base would increase.
  • FWB 1 Apr 2013 19:54:16 41,992 posts
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    Only if you have the infrastructure in place to transport the goods. And customer base? Really? REALLY? Do you know how much capital the majority of N.Koreans have?

    Look, even the S.Koreans don't want the North collapsing.

    Edited by FWB at 19:56:38 01-04-2013
  • alexc7496 1 Apr 2013 19:56:09 1,777 posts
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    I disagree they don't want it to collapse. The costs would be shocking but like I have stated they have been preparing, they would also receive huge financial support from the UN, USA & maybe China. I think the long term benefits would be too strong and while they won't actively make the North crumble if they get the chance they will take it.
  • FWB 1 Apr 2013 19:57:29 41,992 posts
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    Disagree all you want, but if you had done any reading on the matter you would know they don't.
  • alexc7496 1 Apr 2013 19:58:19 1,777 posts
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    Oh sorry are you suddenly head of S Korean foreign policy? My apologies.
  • FWB 1 Apr 2013 20:03:21 41,992 posts
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    Hey, think what you want. It's a free country and you are free to disagree. :)

    Edited by FWB at 20:17:16 01-04-2013
  • Dirtbox 1 Apr 2013 20:31:25 76,341 posts
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    If the North collapsed, they would far more likely be absorbed by China.

    +1 / Like / Tweet this post

  • Khanivor 2 Apr 2013 02:02:56 39,893 posts
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    The US isn't about to spend a cent helping rebuild NK. Unless you're called Israel they ain't interested. And the UN has fuck all money.

    From a financial PoV we'd be better off nuking NK. If you didn't have to feed all those millions building the nation would be a lot cheaper. Less land to cover too.
  • Psychotext 2 Apr 2013 09:40:54 52,802 posts
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    South Korea already has money set aside for reunification purposes. That's not to say it wouldn't be a bastard hard thing to do though (especially because of the lifetime of propaganda they've had in the North).

    That said, think of the ridiculous amounts of money they'd save on defence spending.
  • magicpanda 2 Apr 2013 09:53:16 13,008 posts
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    Bastard hard is underestimating it. :) Talking about 25 million people. Even half of that number pouring out of NK would be insane.

    Nobody wants a bar of that clusterfuck.
  • LeoliansBro 2 Apr 2013 10:00:18 41,869 posts
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    It's funny how the human rights argument never gets an airing isn't it?

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • magicpanda 2 Apr 2013 10:13:12 13,008 posts
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    It's absolutely fucking horrific what's going on over there. Human Experimentation, Gas Chambers, Chemical Weapon Testing, Torture.
  • Psychotext 2 Apr 2013 10:15:18 52,802 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    It's funny how the human rights argument never gets an airing isn't it?
    Not massively surprising though. An all out war is going to cost at least 200k lives within the first month in Korea, probably more... it's going to be REALLY difficult to justify those sort of losses of life.

    Edited by Psychotext at 10:15:40 02-04-2013
  • muttler 2 Apr 2013 11:13:00 3,771 posts
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    Actually, theres a population problem in South Korea.  There are too few women.  Females account for only 1 in 4 of the population, but in the North it's a normal 50/50.  One of the major benefits of reunification from the South's point of view is that this would solve that problem.

    Edit- in response to magicpandas second to last post.

    Edited by muttler at 11:15:16 02-04-2013
  • w00t 2 Apr 2013 11:16:51 10,976 posts
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    muttler wrote:
    Actually, theres a population problem in South Korea.  There are too few women.  Females account for only 1 in 4 of the population, but in the North it's a normal 50/50.  One of the major benefits of reunification from the South's point of view is that this would solve that problem.

    Edit- in response to magicpandas second to last post.
    bullshit

    The day charity died - NEVER FORGET

    (the mic was OK in the end)

  • magicpanda 2 Apr 2013 11:28:14 13,008 posts
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    muttler wrote:
    Actually, theres a population problem in South Korea.  There are too few women.  Females account for only 1 in 4 of the population, but in the North it's a normal 50/50.  One of the major benefits of reunification from the South's point of view is that this would solve that problem.

    Edit- in response to magicpandas second to last post.
    I don't know what to say.

    What are the other major benefits to having 10 million malnourished, culture-shocked people pouring into the country looking for homes, food and jobs?

    Edited by magicpanda at 11:30:37 02-04-2013
  • Metalfish 2 Apr 2013 11:30:06 8,693 posts
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    Hah, I love it when utter crap gets called out.
  • Psychotext 2 Apr 2013 11:35:05 52,802 posts
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    That sort of ratio would make for some seriously pussywhipped men. :D
  • muttler 2 Apr 2013 11:36:58 3,771 posts
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    Well I read about it being a problem in a lonely planet guide 10 or so years ago.  There is still a problem with an aging population in South Korea:

    http://www.mercatornet.com/demography/view/6653/

    Edit- before anyone says anything about linking to MercatorNet, I just did a quick Google search to find something to back up what I said.

    Edited by muttler at 11:44:03 02-04-2013
  • convercide 2 Apr 2013 13:48:47 5,757 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    If the North collapsed, they would far more likely be absorbed by China.
    China - The Majin Buu of countries.

    If you can read this, you don't need glasses.

  • magicpanda 2 Apr 2013 13:53:47 13,008 posts
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    muttler wrote:
    Well I read about it being a problem in a lonely planet guide 10 or so years ago.  There is still a problem with an aging population in South Korea:

    http://www.mercatornet.com/demography/view/6653/

    Edit- before anyone says anything about linking to MercatorNet, I just did a quick Google search to find something to back up what I said.
    All very well posting a true fact but it's about as relevant as a Starfish. :)
  • Shikasama 2 Apr 2013 13:56:22 6,277 posts
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    If the North did collapse then Kings Landing would still face a huge threat from the Targeryeans.

    ..wrong thread?
  • glaeken 2 Apr 2013 14:07:46 10,978 posts
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    Can we just not put North Korea on ignore now?

    They definitely need to implement that function in the real world.

    It's getting boring now.
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