Does anybody else feel like pc gaming is more about analysing performance than actually playing game

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  • seabass 20 Jun 2009 22:34:37 43 posts
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    I've just bought a PC to play games, but I find myself constantly worrying about the game I'm playing hitting 60fps or more than the actual game! I own a ps3 and 360 but don't have the same frustrations, anybody else feel the same?
  • Syrette 20 Jun 2009 22:36:02 43,100 posts
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    Shouldn't you be worrying about making Pro Evo a lot better than it is at the moment? Let the code monkeys deal with all the analysing stuff.

  • Hunam 20 Jun 2009 22:37:58 20,674 posts
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    That's just how everyone is with new pcs, you'll get past that. Consoles on the other hand seem to have terrible framerates these days, really putting me off them because you can't tweak the graphics down to give you a performance boost.
  • seabass 20 Jun 2009 22:45:15 43 posts
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    Hunam wrote:
    That's just how everyone is with new pcs, you'll get past that. Consoles on the other hand seem to have terrible framerates these days, really putting me off them because you can't tweak the graphics down to give you a performance boost.

    I know. Previously when playing console games the frAme rate wouldn't bother me, but since playing pc games, any drop under 60fps and I take it personally
  • Hunam 20 Jun 2009 22:47:20 20,674 posts
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    I was playing GTA4 on my PC and then on the 360, and bloody hell, I found the latter almost unplayable despite managing to complete it before the PC version turned up.

    Really need a new PC though, some parts of my current rig are getting really old and it's just slowing down. Thank god for retro gaming though, making me feel like I've got a monster rig again!
  • Deleted user 20 June 2009 22:49:56
    I just install the games and play them. Benchmarking stuff just makes you think about wasting money on overspeccing.
  • seabass 20 Jun 2009 22:51:54 43 posts
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    Exactly. I really enjoyed gta4 on 360, but the fact that The framerate was erratic on pc meant I was constantly tweaking the settings rather than actually playing the game bothered me, despite the fact that it runs infinitely better than on the 360
  • Fatiguez 20 Jun 2009 22:52:19 8,707 posts
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    Tweaking the settings is the best thing about PC games
  • BartonFink 20 Jun 2009 22:53:16 34,853 posts
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    Hunam wrote:
    I was playing GTA4 on my PC and then on the 360, and bloody hell, I found the latter almost unplayable despite managing to complete it before the PC version turned up.

    Really need a new PC though, some parts of my current rig are getting really old and it's just slowing down. Thank god for retro gaming though, making me feel like I've got a monster rig again!
    Sorry has to be done GTA IV PC
  • seabass 20 Jun 2009 22:57:24 43 posts
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    I suppose the point I'm making is that I will happily play a game at 30fps on a console, the same thing on a pc would cause me to endlessly fiddle with the settings, but I agree with fagituez, tweaking is part of the fun, it's just weird that it takes as much time as actually playing the game!
  • Hunam 20 Jun 2009 22:59:06 20,674 posts
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    It's in marginally better shape after 5 patches....

    PC gaming, so much awesome, so much bullshit.
  • Deleted user 20 June 2009 23:02:10
    I turned the shadows off in GTA4 because they looked fuck ugly. Coincidentally this seemed to lock the framerate right up for me.
  • christourlord 20 Jun 2009 23:02:58 2,498 posts
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    I play on an ageing Bootcamped iMac (new monster PC arrives this Tuesday though - w00t!) and hardly ever touch the settings or worry about framerates. I guess once you've spent a big wad of cash on a gaming rig though, you want to get as much value for your money as you can, and that generally translates into squeezing as many frames out of your hardware as you can.
  • Hunam 20 Jun 2009 23:03:14 20,674 posts
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    Yeah, UE3 games seem to use those fucking shadows too, it's because they dither for some reason, so instead of a natural finish, it just looks wank.

    I think with me, not sure if this is with everyone, you end up figuring out what your PC can and can't do. I know AA is a no go for me on modern games, shadows and reflections can be a problem too, I usually knock them back for v-sync, pretty much universal across games when I'm trying to set it up.
  • Fatiguez 20 Jun 2009 23:04:18 8,707 posts
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    I turn the shadows off in most games because they look fuck ugly. Having no shadows barely affects immersion, whereas fuzzy, blocky pieces of shit drive it down a fair bit
  • Triggverson 20 Jun 2009 23:06:54 8 posts
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    Fair point, one of the most attractive things about console gaming is everybody has a level playing field, someone isnt getting a bigger advantage over someone else, simply by the specs of their pc.
  • silentbob 20 Jun 2009 23:08:00 28,950 posts
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    My PC can do everything.

    It's 'pleasuring' me as I write this in fact.

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  • Spectral 20 Jun 2009 23:11:46 4,969 posts
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    silentbob wrote:
    My PC can do everything.

    It's 'pleasuring' me as I write this in fact.

    But is it doing it well enough? Maybe if you tweaked it a little you could have even more 'pleasure'.
  • silentbob 20 Jun 2009 23:13:15 28,950 posts
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    Nope. Games don't have high enough settings and I run everything at 60FPS at 1920x1200 with full AA and AF.

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  • Deleted user 20 June 2009 23:15:10
    lord wrote:
    I just install the games and play them. Benchmarking stuff just makes you think about wasting money on overspeccing.
  • Fatiguez 20 Jun 2009 23:15:29 8,707 posts
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    ecosse_011172 wrote:
    Playing games >>>>>>>>>>> wanking over the incredible framerates/how high you overclocked the big box that makes a 360 seem silent....

    > wii
  • Hunam 20 Jun 2009 23:19:34 20,674 posts
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    We had a nice thread until some one came along and trolled it like a knob. Thanks for that.
  • Deleted user 20 June 2009 23:20:39
    oh yeah, my pc is silent. No idea how. Stock AMD cooler, and whatever thing asus put on their GPUs these days. Totally accidental.
  • Spectral 20 Jun 2009 23:24:29 4,969 posts
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    I agree, it's much more enjoyable once you stop caring so much about it. I can live with quite a low framerate as long as it's stable. When the framerate is all over the place it drives me crazy.
  • Hunam 20 Jun 2009 23:27:31 20,674 posts
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    I need the frame rate to be honest. Biggest feature that I want is high res textures, so I keep them, v sync and the resolution, the rest can get cut till I get my 60. Motion blur and noise filters are an always off.
  • seabass 20 Jun 2009 23:29:26 43 posts
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    Spectral wrote:
    I agree, it's much more enjoyable once you stop caring so much about it. I can live with quite a low framerate as long as it's stable. When the framerate is all over the place it drives me crazy.

    yep. I think the fact that you are able to tweak the settings so much (in my case anyway) means the fact you spend so much time trying to improve the frame rate, but I'm still trying to find the point where I don't care!
  • Deleted user 20 June 2009 23:30:26
    I actually get annoyed if I can't have most of the settings on High. :(

    When I first try a game, I spend a good while tweaking it, but I'll settle with a compromise between visuals and framerate in the end. Since I'm mainly a console gamer, I'll more than happy to settle for a stable 30fps.
  • Deleted user 20 June 2009 23:30:49
    If you spend that much time tweaking you probably bought the wrong game.
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