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  • craigy Staff 19 Nov 2013 09:52:27 7,602 posts
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    I haven't nailed down a budget yet -- probably used, although those new Sinnis bikes seem reasonably priced...

    Are you an experienced biker? Interested to hear any tips could you give me that you wish you had when first starting out with motorcycles.
  • espadachin 27 Nov 2013 16:20:12 2,210 posts
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    Has anyone had any dealings with Motorcycle Giant (formerly UK Motorcycles) in Shepherd's bush?

    They have a couple of bikes i'm interested in, just wanted to check how reputable they are.
  • Chopsen 27 Nov 2013 16:25:04 15,885 posts
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    @craigy

    The honda cg125 is a classic starter bike, really popular and cheap to run/service.

    Have you signed up for training and the test yet?

    Buy decent gear. Someone once told me you should spend more on gear than your first bike. Not a bad bit of advice tbh. You more than likely will end up dropping your first bike at the very least so no point spending too much.

    What kind of commute is it? A 125 will struggle with dual carriage-way and be an absolute no-no for motorway.

    Edited by Chopsen at 16:25:35 27-11-2013
  • craigy Staff 27 Nov 2013 16:34:05 7,602 posts
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    Thanks! Gear is something I know nothing about, so that is very helpful.

    Commute will be single lane, 5-ish miles, but very hilly at times. Roads are all 30-40mph.

    I was wondering with 125's -- how quickly do you outgrow them in terms of getting bored of their acceleration? In your experience is it worth going straight to a 250?
  • billythekid 27 Nov 2013 16:37:13 11,110 posts
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    The best thing I ever did was not buy a 125. I hired one during lessons and my test then I bought my first road bike. It will really be no time at all before you're ringing a 125's neck and crying out for more power.

    I was a very confident rider at the time though, mainly because I'd raced schoolboy motocross for 8 years or so before.
  • billythekid 27 Nov 2013 16:43:25 11,110 posts
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    craigy wrote:
    Roads are all 30-40mph.
    You'll find that's the case on a 125 :)
  • Chopsen 27 Nov 2013 16:45:19 15,885 posts
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    I started off on a 125 and was on that for years. Ignoring the "more power = more fun" equation, the only real downside of a 125 is you need more gear changes, and you can't take the bigger roads. For roads at 30-40, it should be quite comfortable.

    I don't think a 250 is going to really give out much more than 125. Most people go for 125s to start with and then go to something 500cc or above. You'd still struggle with anything over 50-60 mph on a 250cc I reckon. Having said that, I've never actually ridden one ;)

    In any case, you'd need to do the motorcycle test before you could ride a 250cc, and maybe even a 125cc. I got away with riding a 125cc with L plates because of when I took my driving test.

    Re gear: is there a Henie Gericke near where you live? I'd suggest going in there and talk to them about getting yourself kitted out. Their stuff does go up to eye watering prices, but IME the staff are really helpful and informative and they have never tried to flog me the more expensive end of stuff whenever I've been to various branches.
  • Chopsen 27 Nov 2013 16:47:35 15,885 posts
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    billythekid wrote:
    I was a very confident rider at the time though, mainly because I'd raced schoolboy motocross for 8 years or so before.
    I they're great for getting confidence and competency if you've never ridden before. There's a big spike of death rates in people in the 30s/40s who take the DAS, buy a Fireblade, and promptly wrap themselves around a tree on the first corner they come across.
  • craigy Staff 27 Nov 2013 16:50:53 7,602 posts
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    Heh, maybe a 125 is for me after all :D
  • billythekid 27 Nov 2013 16:54:42 11,110 posts
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    More power can often get you out of trouble just as much as it can get you in it really.
  • Chopsen 27 Nov 2013 16:58:48 15,885 posts
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    Oh aye, but only if you can control it!
  • billythekid 27 Nov 2013 16:59:55 11,110 posts
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    Far better brakes on a bigger bike too!
  • Chopsen 27 Nov 2013 17:00:15 15,885 posts
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    In other news, Mrs Chopsen is having a new moped/scooter type thing. A Honda Forza. Complete wussy bike, but looking forward to having a play on it all the same.
  • craigy Staff 30 Nov 2013 17:24:41 7,602 posts
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    So today I went to a shop to have a look at some new Sinnis 125s, and I'm pretty impressed with them.

    Am leaning towards buying a Retrostar as it's got a low seat which I felt very comfortable on, and I love the look of it. Two year warranty is quite good. Also am leaning towards getting a synthetic jacket and trousers.

    Exciting times!
  • craigy Staff 30 Nov 2013 17:42:54 7,602 posts
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    Yup, I can get an additional 12 months road tax and 36 months mot from my local dealer, and he also said he'd throw in my gear at trade price too. Sooo tempting!
  • craigy Staff 30 Nov 2013 18:04:58 7,602 posts
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    Hah, that makes sense. Durr me!
  • glaeken 2 Dec 2013 10:53:30 11,144 posts
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    espadachin wrote:
    Has anyone had any dealings with Motorcycle Giant (formerly UK Motorcycles) in Shepherd's bush?

    They have a couple of bikes i'm interested in, just wanted to check how reputable they are.
    I bought a bike from these guys and they were Ok. A slight negative was when I picked up the bike it had virtually no fuel in it and I actually had to go onto reserve before I had got out of the end of their road. Picking up bikes or cars that have virtually no fuel in them always strikes me as bad form. I also got a slight wide boy vibe off of them though having nothing to back that up as my bike ended up fine.

    They do a lot of grey imports that you won't find anywhere else but I do think their prices are a little high. Still a lot of the bikes they do you cannot get from anywhere else so if there is a particular bike you want they may be the only option.

    What bikes were you looking at?
  • SuperBas 18 Dec 2013 15:26:37 1,452 posts
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    Just out of interest, are there any tall people on this thread? I'm 6'5", and wondering what a good bike would be for someone my length. I prefer sporty looking bikes over cruisers. Anyone in the same boat as me?
  • Salaman 18 Dec 2013 15:30:36 18,963 posts
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    Nope .. I'm a 5'7" short arse.

    I always thought those "dakar" type enduro bikes looked stilly heigh and probably would leave me struggling to touch the ground.
  • billythekid 18 Dec 2013 15:32:47 11,110 posts
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    I've always found modern Triumphs too big for me, although I've not sat on the very latest ones.
    Full on sports bikes are not designed for comfort at all and being tall I'd imagine it'd be even worse, so maybe a sports tourer may be better.
  • EMarkM 18 Dec 2013 15:33:13 3,173 posts
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    Chopsen wrote:
    @craigy

    The honda cg125 is a classic starter bike, really popular and cheap to run/service...
    My first ever bike, back in around 1990. Probably my favourite too, having ridden pretty-much most standard stuff (GPZs, Bandits, etc.)

    I'm actually considering buying a new one for commuting :)
  • glaeken 18 Dec 2013 15:45:15 11,144 posts
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    @SuperBas How about a KTM 990 super moto? I used to have a 950 super moto and it's a nice big bike. I am 5' 11" and could not flat foot it on both sides so I would imagine it would suit the taller rider. Not cheap for the new ones but you could pick up a 950 for not too much these days.

    Superb bike as well. Extremely capable.

    Edited by glaeken at 15:46:18 18-12-2013
  • Salaman 18 Dec 2013 15:59:14 18,963 posts
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    glaeken wrote:
    @SuperBas How about a KTM 990 super moto?
    Yeah, that's the type of bikes that came to mind for me.
  • SuperBas 18 Dec 2013 16:07:56 1,452 posts
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    The 990 looks incredibly cool, but the cheapest second hand ones go for more than twice my planned budget of €3000.

    Edited by SuperBas at 16:12:56 18-12-2013
  • billythekid 18 Dec 2013 16:10:31 11,110 posts
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    SuperBas wrote:
    The 990 looks incredibly cool, but the cheapest second hand ones go for about twice my planned budget of €3000.
    Triumph Daytona 955?
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