Air France planes goes off radar on flight from Brazil->Paris Page 9

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  • LeoliansBro 23 Jun 2009 14:10:57 35,097 posts
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    I don't know, did you?

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Dougs 23 Jun 2009 14:13:11 59,084 posts
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    I don't know. Maybe I should've asked the wife, seeing as she was the only one there
  • Deleted user 23 June 2009 14:15:44
    Dougs wrote:
    Did I see on the news that they've nearly located the black box?
    Nearly? How do they know?
  • LeoliansBro 23 Jun 2009 14:16:26 35,097 posts
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    MrED209 wrote:
    Dougs wrote:
    Did I see on the news that they've nearly located the black box?
    Nearly? How do they know?
    Probably from narrowing down the tracking signal to an area of ocean floor.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • StarchildHypocrethes 23 Jun 2009 14:16:30 22,499 posts
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    Hopefully Mrs. Dougs will soon clear things up.
  • UncleLou Moderator 23 Jun 2009 14:16:36 34,670 posts
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    MrED209 wrote:
    Dougs wrote:
    Did I see on the news that they've nearly located the black box?
    Nearly? How do they know?
    False alarm. Turned out the signal wasn't from the black box.
  • StarchildHypocrethes 23 Jun 2009 14:17:30 22,499 posts
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    Nothing personal, but I'd never have put you two together.
  • Dougs 23 Jun 2009 14:18:09 59,084 posts
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    Ah, damn. No need to confuse the missus now.
  • Dougs 23 Jun 2009 14:21:40 59,084 posts
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    StarchildHypocrethes wrote:
    Nothing personal, but I'd never have put you two together.
    :D
  • Deleted user 23 June 2009 19:41:15
    If the signal they found isn't from the black box, what is it from? I know that the whole problem here is searching for the equivalent of a needle in a haystack the size of Texas, but there is an awful lot of stuff in the area, including submarines, which should be pretty good at finding probably the only thing in the area wanting to be found....
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  • Nasty 3 May 2011 12:02:22 4,636 posts
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    Voice and Data Recorders recovered
  • El_MUERkO 4 Jun 2011 14:12:49 16,142 posts
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    What was learned from the Black Box



    I'm no expert, I've flown the odd flight-sim, played a fair bit of iL2, but their actions seem odd, surely if you don't know your speed and you're getting stall warnings then point the nose down and accelerate, if you end up going too fast then the airframe will vibrate and you can decelerate.
  • Nasty 4 Jun 2011 14:39:36 4,636 posts
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    Sounds a bit like this
  • Fake_Blood 4 Jun 2011 14:45:18 2,975 posts
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    Fucking ice in the pitot tube(speed sensor), again?
    This has happened so many times before, the plane thinks it's flying much slower than it really is.
    The thing is, all control surfaces move proportionally to the airspeed, so at high speeds they only move a little, when you fly slowly they make big movements.
    So what happens is that all controls become super sensitive and it's very easy to overpull a plane and make it stall.

    That's my 2 cents anyway, but obviously there was a huge disconnect between the cockpit and what was really happening.
  • mal 4 Jun 2011 15:51:29 20,508 posts
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    Fake_Blood wrote:

    Fucking ice in the pitot tube(speed sensor), again?
    This has happened so many times before, the plane thinks it's flying much slower than it really is.
    Twice, according to Wikipedia: 1974 and 2008, with a possible third in Feb 1996 (wreckage never found) and the Aeroperu flight Nasty linked to which was blocked by tape accidentally left on, not ice.

    Still, fucking scary thing to happen.

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  • Fake_Blood 4 Jun 2011 18:56:48 2,975 posts
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    mal wrote:
    Fake_Blood wrote:

    Fucking ice in the pitot tube(speed sensor), again?
    This has happened so many times before, the plane thinks it's flying much slower than it really is.
    Twice, according to Wikipedia: 1974 and 2008, with a possible third in Feb 1996 (wreckage never found) and the Aeroperu flight Nasty linked to which was blocked by tape accidentally left on, not ice.

    Still, fucking scary thing to happen.
    Pitot tubes on aircraft commonly have heating elements called pitot heat to prevent the tube from becoming clogged with ice. The failure of these systems can have catastrophic consequences, as in the case of Austral Líneas Aéreas Flight 2553, Birgenair Flight 301 (investigators suspected that some kind of insect could have created a nest inside the pitot tube: the prime suspect is a species called the Black and yellow mud dauber wasp), Northwest Airlines Flight 6231, AeroPeru Flight 603 (blocked static port), and of one X-31.[4] It has also been suggested that pitot tube icing was responsible for the crash of Air France Flight 447.[5] although this claim has been contested.[6]

    Also from wikipedia.
  • Syrette 4 Jun 2011 19:15:40 38,357 posts
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    Someone's been watching too much Air Crash Investigation.

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  • Whizzo 22 Jun 2011 15:28:08 41,139 posts
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    A plane crash is always the best way to spam a catering service I find.

    Fucking hell...

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  • the_dudefather 22 Jun 2011 15:28:35 8,120 posts
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    such a tragic story

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  • Tom_Servo 22 Jun 2011 15:29:59 13,223 posts
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    One of the weirdest plants I've seen. Bizarre.
  • sirtacos 22 Jun 2011 15:30:26 6,801 posts
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    Nothing like a fatal plane crash to promote a catering business. People get hungry at funerals.
  • Dolly 22 Jun 2011 15:30:37 3,066 posts
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    I wonder if any of the people on board were wearing?

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  • FWB 22 Jun 2011 15:39:41 39,097 posts
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    That's one of the most random spams I've seen in a long time.

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  • BartonFink 22 Jun 2011 15:52:25 34,743 posts
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    Wow they actually found it.

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