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  • ecu 8 Apr 2009 16:33:37 77,308 posts
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    Just been announced, surprise surprise. Details on the front page.

    Let's all speculate about how rubbish it's going to be.
  • StarchildHypocrethes 8 Apr 2009 16:34:54 26,587 posts
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    I'll take a wild stab and say it won't quite be as rubbish as it's previous current gen attempts, but in the grand scheme of things will still be fairly crap.
  • Physically_Insane 8 Apr 2009 16:34:55 9,238 posts
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    /awaits numerous post about how they used to buy every PES until it got shit and so this won't be any different
  • Physically_Insane 8 Apr 2009 16:35:24 9,238 posts
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    Ah, one already.
  • PES_Fanboy 8 Apr 2009 16:35:36 18,890 posts
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    :_;
  • Deleted user 8 April 2009 16:53:55
    shall I start a Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 thread
  • istandfreed 8 Apr 2009 16:56:46 2,416 posts
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    The menu system will no longer have Europop but instead will feature 20 drunk Japanese executives singing YMCA.

    PSN: Ballszilla

  • Feanor 8 Apr 2009 16:59:18 14,185 posts
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    I just hope they include date & difficulty info on replays like they used to so PESFan can restart their Goal of the Month competition. The last one was run in September 2007 using PES 6.
  • gohda 8 Apr 2009 16:59:49 6,642 posts
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    PES should give up.
  • roz123 8 Apr 2009 17:50:21 7,113 posts
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    If it wasnt for PES fifa would be a pile of shit
  • deem 8 Apr 2009 17:51:46 31,641 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    Just been announced, surprise surprise. Details on the front page.

    Let's all speculate about how rubbish it's going to be.

    As long as I can score a 40 yard back-heel with Merseyside Blue, I don't care.
  • Deleted user 8 April 2009 17:52:34
    I liked PES2009, the CPU opponent was hard to beat for the first time ever, roll on PES2010.
  • smugla 8 Apr 2009 18:03:00 2,134 posts
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    I thought 2009 was the last on the ps2, I still prefer it on the ps2 than the 360/ps3


    its the only reason i still own a ps2
  • Deleted user 8 April 2009 18:08:47
    The PS2 version has been bad since PES6 onwards IMO.
    2008 on PS3 was even worse, but 2009 on PS3 was actually ok.

    I'm expecting 2010 on PS3 to be very good indeed, the signs are there for this year with the slower pace, and tougher AI opponent.
    And now with this announcement that they are going back to a more sim-like feel, it gives me renewed hope that they realised they fucked up by making it super-fast and arcadey since WE10.
  • ecu 8 Apr 2009 18:11:43 77,308 posts
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    I'm just not sure. I expected 2009 to be a huge improvement, and it wasn't. I thought it was better than 2008, but that's not saying much.
  • THFourteen 8 Apr 2009 18:15:51 34,463 posts
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    apparently this year it will be the game that all football fans have been waiting for, the team has really worked hard this year and listened to the fans, and i think you'll all be surprised
  • THFourteen 8 Apr 2009 18:16:28 34,463 posts
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    oh wait, you said 2010. i thought you said 2009, 2008, 6, 5, 4... should pay more attention really.

    i dont know anything about 2010.
  • Deleted user 8 April 2009 18:17:52
    ecureuil wrote:
    I'm just not sure. I expected 2009 to be a huge improvement, and it wasn't. I thought it was better than 2008, but that's not saying much.

    Why did you expect a big improvement?
    I expected 2009 to be a "fixed" 2008 and it was that, but also slower and more tactical.
    They're deffo going in the right direction.
  • ecu 8 Apr 2009 18:19:21 77,308 posts
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    KILLA wrote:
    ecureuil wrote:
    I'm just not sure. I expected 2009 to be a huge improvement, and it wasn't. I thought it was better than 2008, but that's not saying much.

    Why did you expect a big improvement?
    I expected 2009 to be a "fixed" 2008 and it was that, but also slower and more tactical.
    They're deffo going in the right direction.

    Um, because it was crap and I expected them to make it better. Seems like a reasonable thing to ask.
  • Deleted user 8 April 2009 18:20:49
    I'm just surprised you expected a huge improvement, that's all.

    especially after Seabass whining about staff etc.
  • Trowel 8 Apr 2009 18:23:36 18,054 posts
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    So much to fix, such little time to do it in.

    PES2009 is definitely the most enjoyable of the next-gen versions - me and my mate are into our fifth season of 38 game seasons against each other as different teams, and unexplainable fuck-ups can generally be split 50/50 between me and the bloody CPU (though I'm baffled as to why my goalkeepers should ever try to do a sliding tackle on a backpass... grumble...)

    /fires up WE6:FE
    /sobs for his lost childhood
  • Deleted user 8 April 2009 18:25:22
    It's kind of refreshing that people are dumping on it.

    If FIFA and PES improved every year like people say then they'd be the best fucking games ever.
  • ecu 8 Apr 2009 18:26:22 77,308 posts
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    Refreshing? People have been dumping on Pro Evo for the past two years. It's quite boring by now.
  • Trowel 8 Apr 2009 18:28:13 18,054 posts
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    Full press release:

    PES 2010: New Season, All New Game

    Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH has announced that its forthcoming PES 2010 title will benefit from the most exhaustive raft of new features in the series’ history, with every aspect of the game benefiting from key improvements. Major gameplay additions will make PES 2010 the most realistic football simulation available.

    PES 2010 is scheduled for release on PLAYSTATION®3, Xbox 360, PC-DVD, PSP® (PLAYSTATION®Portable), PlayStation®2 and mobile phones in the Autumn, and follows months of analysis and feedback monitoring to enhance the game in every area. PES Productions, Konami’s Tokyo-based development team, has collated feedback on the series’ strengths and weaknesses via fan forums, both ardent and casual PES players and press comment, and has incorporated a wide range of requests in the new game. The result will be the most challenging, realistic and satisfying PES to date.

    Konami has spent the last year expanding the development team’s numbers, and created a number of dedicated departments, each striving to further improving their respective parts of the game both in the short and long terms. Key additions for PES 2010 include:

    • Gameplay: PES 2010 focuses on enhancing the excitement of matches between players, making for a truly challenging experience that will constantly test the player. Intuitive zonal defending will cover spaces and players need to look constantly for new ways to attack. PES 2010 focuses on being a real football simulation, as it requires both strategic play and quick reactions, as in real life. In addition to key out-field elements, goalkeepers are more versatile and with abilities matching those of modern shot-stoppers. The game’s referees have also been reworked, with smarter AI elements allowing them to make more balanced calls during matches.

    • Improved Visuals: PES 2010 has undergone a major visual revamp, with its celebrated player likenesses and animations now even closer to those of real-life players – including live player expressions to be depicted with an improved lighting system which differentiates between various conditions! Stadium detail is also massively improved, with the grass and other in-stadium elements finely depicted.

    • All-new animation and moves: Animations now dovetail into each other seamlessly, with dribbling and shots on goals worked into dribbling animations. More individual skills are also on show, including new flicks and tricks that have a definite showing on the way a game flows. Several elements have been completely reworked, with the dribbling, turning and kicking animations greatly enhanced, while there is a noticeable change in pace when a player passes a ball from a standing position than from within a run.

    • Match-Day Atmosphere: Crowd reactions to the on-field action are now more varied, with all new chants and cheers. The subtle difference between Home and Away matches will be reproduced, and the crowd will react spontaneously to specific situations in a game, showing their disdain or pleasure as fouls are committed and goals scored. Likewise, the commentary has been altered to offer a fresher, more concise overview of the game.

    • Enhanced Master League: Master League has been thoroughly renewed with the enhancement of managerial aspects, which enables users to enjoy managing a team for a longer career lifespan. Seen by many as a key contributor to the series’ success, the Master League elements in PES 2010 have been bolstered by far-ranging and vital new additions, dedicated to enriching the mode. Further details will be announced shortly.

    • AI: The Tokyo team has worked to improve the AI of the game, with Teamvision 2.0 implemented. Midfielders and defenders now work together to cover open space and close down attacks, meaning that cover can be provided for lower-ranked defenders. This also has the additional effect of removing soft goals, thus returning PES 2010 to its simulation roots. In terms of attacking, players can also now move several players once, sending them into different areas, opening up more goal-scoring possibilities than ever before. As such, PES 2010 necessitates a new level of control from the player. Strategic thinking is as important as quick passing, but the new system greatly opens the way the player oversees control of the team. In free kick scenarios, for instance, players can now instigate the runs of the players awaiting the ball in the penalty area.

    • Individual Play Characteristics: In previous PES games, the team formation has determined the movements of the players. PES 2010 introduces a new system wherein the individual attacking and defending nature of the players is integral to the way they play. Each player enjoys unique AI tied into their best abilities, and is reflected in the actions of their team mates – i.e. if a player who is known to be a good crosser of the ball is in possession, more players will flood the penalty area to receive it. Similarly, if a player is known to be good with close control, defenders will work to cover their stronger side, while lone strikers will be automatically supported by midfielders on receipt of the ball.

    • Strategy Use: A new power gauge system allows users to balance their strategy in a quick, but wide-ranging way before a match. Every element – pass frequency, movement, the line of defence, width of play, or the position of the front line – can be altered to match those of a favoured club: Juventus Turin are a dangerous side on the counter-attack, for instance, while FC Barcelona use width in their attack. These formulations can be altered at any point, too, with Home and Away matches forcing different circumstances on the user, as does the rigours of a Master League season.

    • Penalties: An all-new system has been implemented, offering greater control, placing and accuracy.

    • Enhanced Online: A new dedicated section of the Tokyo team is committed to improving the online side of PES 2010. More downloadable content is also planned. Konami has supported PES 2009 with the release of new licensed teams, transfer updates, etc, and this support will grow for PES 2010. Team and content updates are planned throughout the game’s lifespan. These will make the game even more bespoke to the player’s match day needs.

    Konami has strengthend its relationship with UEFA and can announce it has secured the exclusive video game rights for the Europa League Licence (formerly known as the UEFA Cup). In addition Konami will be enhancing and developing the use of the UEFA Champions League within PES 2010 to make even better use of the best club football competition in the world.

    Further details of these new features will be released in the coming months. Konami has also confirmed that Lionel Messi will also be a key endorsement player for the new game, and will feature in the promotion and development of the game later this year.

    “We have been monitoring feedback and comments on the progression of the PES series for some time now, and PES 2010 will see us implementing a great deal of the ideas players have been requesting,” commented Naoya Hatsumi, Producer for PES Productions at Konami Digital Entertainment Japan. “We aim to make PES 2010 a more user-friendly, immediate experience that places the emphasis on getting straight into the gameplay for which the series is famed. PES 2010 will look better, will play better, and will recreate real football as closely as the current hardware will allow.”

    “The preparations for PES 2010 have been in place for some time now, with the reorganization and increase of the Tokyo-based studio allowing expert teams to concentrate on their particular area,” commented Jon Murphy, PES European Team Leader. “We are now in a better position to implement the greatest raft of changes and improvements to the series we have seen, and thank the PES community for their input.”
  • THFourteen 8 Apr 2009 18:30:29 34,463 posts
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    i'm sorry but they have put the fact that they improved PENALTIES down as a main improvement?

    jebus.
  • ecu 8 Apr 2009 18:30:49 77,308 posts
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    I bet the Master League is still the exact same as it's always been.
  • ecu 8 Apr 2009 18:33:12 77,308 posts
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    Oh, and Seabass is no longer producing it..?
  • Bloodloss 8 Apr 2009 18:34:11 4,499 posts
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    The only thing I like more about PES from what I've seen is how much easier it is to have a Euro/World cup. Unless I'm missing something in Fifa 09 (which is entirely possible as I haven't played it much), there's no actual 'world cup' mode, and to do it you have to individually add each country which can take ages. PES seems to focus more on national teams in general. Surely I'm mistaken?
  • Trowel 8 Apr 2009 18:35:07 18,054 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    I bet the Master League is still the exact same as it's always been.
    Yeah - some quirks were manageable but the novelty's worn off. It desperately needs an overhaul on the transfers, player development, a proper currency, and there'd be no harm in using the licenced leagues and cups.
  • Deleted user 8 April 2009 18:47:14
    The stuff about AI in that press release are the things I've been whinging about since PES6, I'm officially excited.
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