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  • phAge 29 Mar 2009 02:27:49 24,337 posts
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    Was at a mate's house for some Pro Evo 2009 tonight, where I had the misfortune of trying out his Dual Shocks.

    OMFG.

    They feel flimsy, way too light, the smooth plastic is a sweat-magnet, the triggers are pathetic, and the sticks feel like the control rods in a fucking TANK. The d-pad is, of course, vastly superior to the one on the 360's controller - but other than that (and the tilt function...) it really is a pathetic piece of hardware.

    The PS3 has loads of stuff going for it, but the Dual Shock 3 really is 2 or 3 levels beneath the 360 controller. Christ they suck.

    (And yes, I lost - badly).
  • Psychotext 29 Mar 2009 02:28:54 53,855 posts
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    Be glad you didn't try a sixaxis. I quite like the DS3 overall.
  • Derblington 29 Mar 2009 02:29:47 21,354 posts
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    DS3 or SIXAXIS, because I think the weight of the DS3 is ok?
  • phAge 29 Mar 2009 02:32:03 24,337 posts
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    Derblington wrote:
    DS3 or SIXAXIS, because I think the weight of the DS3 is ok?
    Well, they were the controllers that came with his PS3, so they may in fact have been Sixaxis. Apologies to the Dual Shock 3 if this is the case. Looking at pics they seem pretty much identical, apart from rumble though?
  • Gaol 29 Mar 2009 02:32:10 2,263 posts
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    Nothing wrong with dual shocks. Well, apart from the one you left covered in sweat.
  • gohda 29 Mar 2009 02:33:05 6,642 posts
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    phAge wrote:
    Derblington wrote:
    DS3 or SIXAXIS, because I think the weight of the DS3 is ok?
    Well, they were the controllers that came with his PS3, so they may in fact have been Sixaxis. Apologies to the Dual Shock 3 if this is the case. Looking at pics they seem pretty much identical, apart from rumble though?
    and weight
  • Derblington 29 Mar 2009 02:33:45 21,354 posts
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    phAge wrote:
    Well, they were the controllers that came with his PS3, so they may in fact have been Sixaxis. Apologies to the Dual Shock 3 if this is the case. Looking at pics they seem pretty much identical, apart from rumble though?
    Rumble added, which improves the weight, and the sticks are tweaked a little I think. Nothing major though, most of your critcisms are valid.
  • gohda 29 Mar 2009 02:34:12 6,642 posts
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    Gaol wrote:
    Nothing wrong with dual shocks. Well, apart from the one you left covered in sweat.
    hehe
  • absolutezero 29 Mar 2009 02:37:37 7,956 posts
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    Pure fuckin gash pal
  • phAge 29 Mar 2009 02:43:48 24,337 posts
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    It really, really is. The 360 controller just feels so natural to hold and use, whereas you're fighting the Playstation one all the way. WTF if up with those über-long sticks, weird spongy triggers and smooth, slippery surface? It's like Sony decided to just make more of what they've always done, and not pay attention to the development in ergonomics in gaming gear at all. If I ever buy a PS3, I'll get one of them there 360 adaptors straight away.
  • ecureuil 29 Mar 2009 02:47:14 76,547 posts
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    DualShock 3 is lovely. Very comfortable to hold and really well designed. It's not perfect, but it has a lot going for it.

    360 edges it, but it's close. Both have pretty poor sticks, hope we get some redevelopment in this area.
  • phAge 29 Mar 2009 02:49:23 24,337 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    Both have pretty poor sticks, hope we get some redevelopment in this area.
    Really? I like the 360 sticks a lot - can't really see how they could be improved.
  • ecureuil 29 Mar 2009 02:55:06 76,547 posts
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    Actually poor is a little harsh, but I think they could be better. Both have deadzones and are not as accurate as they could be, but I suppose it depends how the developers work with them. I wish the 360's triggers weren't so flappy, and it needs a better d-pad (although I believe they're a bit stuck here due to Nintendo and Sony patents).

    PS3 controller is clearly made for Japanese hands, where as the 360 controller is clearly made for Westerner hands. The original PS1 analog controller is still the most comfortable controller ever, I miss it.
  • Deleted user 29 March 2009 03:51:59
    I prefer the dual shock to the 360 one.
    In forza 2 I find it hard to turn a very small amount, which makes riding the outside of an oval track unnessecarily difficult, with the sixaxis it's easier.
    Obviously the d-pad for Pro Evo is vastly superior as well.
    Maybe the 360 pad is better for shooting games, I don't have a shooter for the 360 yet.
  • ecureuil 29 Mar 2009 04:11:08 76,547 posts
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    The overriding factor is what you're used to, your muscle memory plays a huge part in gaming. If you've done nothing but play 360 for the past 3 years, of course a PS3 controller is going to feel totally wrong. Your hand will shape for the 360 controller, it can take a lot of unlearning.

    360 controller is the best out there imo, but I still find the DS3 a very decent game controller. Ultimately it doesn't really matter that much to me as I tend to adapt very quickly. I don't think there's a definitive answer here, it's subjective.
  • phAge 29 Mar 2009 04:16:54 24,337 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    I don't think there's a definitive answer here, it's subjective.
    True. I wonder if there are other aspects of the two consoles of which the same could be said... ;)
  • Aretak 29 Mar 2009 05:01:08 10,346 posts
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    The DS3 is the best controller ever made IMO. I've always liked the PlayStation pads over the years, and the DS3 is unquestionably the best of them thanks to its massively improved analogue sticks. The weight is perfect, the layout is perfect and I've never had any issue at all with the strangely-curved triggers. I put some of those 'Real Triggers' things on and thought they were horrible, whereas most people go on about how much of an improvement they are.

    The 360 controller is alright... I don't really like the chunky feel of it, and the wireless one is way too heavy with one of the rechargeable battery packs in it. With a pair of AAs it's more to my liking, but I actually prefer the wired 360 pad overall. It doesn't have the massive battery holder on the back of it, and feels a lot better as a result IMO. The wire is also long and flexible enough that it never becomes a problem.
  • superjag86 29 Mar 2009 05:37:26 227 posts
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    What Aretak said.
  • Deleted user 29 March 2009 06:01:54
    I really like the DS3 and 360 controller. I don't even have a problem with the d-pad on the 360 pad.
  • Ryze 29 Mar 2009 08:05:07 3,123 posts
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    phAge wrote:
    It really, really is. The 360 controller just feels so natural to hold and use, whereas you're fighting the Playstation one all the way. WTF if up with those über-long sticks, weird spongy triggers and smooth, slippery surface? It's like Sony decided to just make more of what they've always done, and not pay attention to the development in ergonomics in gaming gear at all. If I ever buy a PS3, I'll get one of them there 360 adaptors straight away.

    There's a 360 adaptor available? I'd definitely go for this rather than buy any DS3s.

    I'll be happy with one to use for GTA SIXAXIS motorbikes, plus anything else that needs motion control (hopefully God of War will spice things up using the motion control).

    In terms of ergonomics and Sony doing NOTHING to improve their pad design, however - I completely agree. The PS2 days have made me accustomed to the pad - I can kick arse on it, but I know that for some games I'm harming my hands in the long term. They shouldn't ache, and never do on the 360 pad.

    They'll reap what they sow.

    /waits for God of War III, ICO 3, pricecut
  • morriss 29 Mar 2009 08:07:08 70,911 posts
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    You've played on a DS3 at my house, phAge. You never had a problem then.
  • Gradius 29 Mar 2009 08:13:54 2,305 posts
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    To be honest I can adapt very quickly to either systems controller, must admit, I didn't like the weight of the sixaxsis at first, but after 20 minutes on Tekken DR it just felt 'normal' to me.
  • morriss 29 Mar 2009 08:16:08 70,911 posts
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    I've got no problem with it.
  • morriss 29 Mar 2009 08:16:46 70,911 posts
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    Well, apart from the god-awful triggers, that is.
  • Gradius 29 Mar 2009 08:21:57 2,305 posts
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    yeah, the triggers aren't great, but I could still rape you all on SF4 no matter what the pad :D

    /this statement is probably not true.
  • Deleted user 29 March 2009 09:35:50
    Do you have "GREAT MAN HANDS!!!". The Dual Shock is fine for my dainty lady fingers, and the 360 controller feels a little cumbersome. Although I find it hard to believe that in 3 console generations Sony haven't made any real notable design improvement.

    ...I miss the batarang :(
  • D_arkTrooper 29 Mar 2009 09:44:29 1,298 posts
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    I like both pads,although as already mentioned,the 360 d-pad is woeful.Also the DS3 triggers break way too easily.

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  • BartonFink 29 Mar 2009 10:11:15 34,853 posts
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    DS3 is far from gash.
    While it's nowhere near as good a controller as the 360 controller the DS3 is a vast improvement on the previous ones (which were indeed gash). The weight is good, they have tightened up the sticks (positioning is still all wrong though), the d-pad is good, the triggers though oh dear, dead zones are still annoying.

    Overall though a much better effort from Sony. My biggest problem with it is it makes my hands cramp up after extended periods of play as did all the previous ones.
  • michaelius 29 Mar 2009 11:42:23 809 posts
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    phAge wrote:
    The PS3 has loads of stuff going for it, but the Dual Shock 3 really is 2 or 3 levels beneath the 360 controller. Christ they suck.

    (And yes, I lost - badly).

    Warning Warning Troll detected .
    Let's call the flamethrower team to clean this :D
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