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  • Cappy 12 Mar 2010 16:31:09 11,831 posts
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    And as if by magic, a teaser site for the new Atelier Rorona game appeared.

    Unlike the PS2 Atelier Iris series, they seem to be opting to continue from the first game, keeping some of the original cast of characters.
  • chrisno21 13 Mar 2010 07:40:24 1,465 posts
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    Eternal Mana was Great, Sword of Azaroth not so much and the third was a chore. Hope this is more like the EM, but I'll probably buy it, and it's newly announced sequal - even if I need to import.

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  • Everblue 13 Mar 2010 07:54:00 462 posts
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    Cant wait for English Atelier..... pity that they switched to 3D though, I hope it hasn't lost its charm :(
  • Cappy 13 Mar 2010 10:39:14 11,831 posts
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    Have you played Valkyria Chronicles Everblue?

    Unfortunately at HD resolutions developers have a problem, 3D is much more cost effective, you could spend a fortune on a game like Odin Sphere for instance and hardly anybody would buy it because it's 'retro'.

    3D just has too many advantages when it comes to scaling, animation and production costs for developers to ignore.
  • Ranger_Ryu 30 Jun 2010 22:42:13 1,024 posts
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    out in Europe in the Autumn via NIS and Tecmo Koei Europe:
    http://koei.co.uk/news/?id=31525
  • Everblue 2 Jul 2010 19:53:37 462 posts
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    That's awesome... now if they only just made the game in high-res 2D...
  • Ranger_Ryu 15 Jul 2010 18:41:06 1,024 posts
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    Official site is now up:
    http://nisamerica.com/games/roro/
  • King_Edward 15 Jul 2010 19:52:08 11,454 posts
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    I'm going to start pointlessly bumping this thread in an optimistic attempt to generate some anticipation for this game. I've been looking forward to it for ages.

    Cheers for the site Ranger. :D
  • Rauha 15 Jul 2010 19:55:15 4,271 posts
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    Secret Atelier cult! I have also been looking forward to this :D
  • King_Edward 10 Aug 2010 10:09:22 11,454 posts
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    Fairly positive preview on the front page. Looking good.
  • King_Edward 1 Oct 2010 00:53:23 11,454 posts
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    Just noticed a few reviews have started creeping in, Generally positive stuff.

    Metacritic
  • Cappy 1 Oct 2010 01:03:33 11,831 posts
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    Considering that this thread features posts by the same four or five people throughout the year, this release is most certainly doomed. Nobody is interested. :-(

    A Metacritic rating of 77 isn't good either. Silent Hill: Homecoming was on 78 last time I looked and that game is truly buttock crimpings.
  • King_Edward 1 Oct 2010 01:08:59 11,454 posts
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    Yeah but the Atelier franchise isn't big enough to get inflated review scores like Silent Hill is, and it's not small enough to earn "indie points" either. 77 is decent for an off-the-radar game like this.
  • Rauha 1 Oct 2010 09:38:51 4,271 posts
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    I'm buying it. So +1 sale from me :)
  • andywilkie35 1 Oct 2010 09:40:36 5,338 posts
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    Does anyone know when this is out in Europe? I'll certainly be getting it :)

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  • Rauha 1 Oct 2010 09:44:13 4,271 posts
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    22nd Oct
  • andywilkie35 1 Oct 2010 09:44:56 5,338 posts
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    Thanks mate

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  • FabricatedLunatic 1 Oct 2010 10:16:28 12,994 posts
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  • FabricatedLunatic 1 Oct 2010 10:17:59 12,994 posts
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    Cappy wrote:
    A Metacritic rating of 77 isn't good either. Silent Hill: Homecoming was on 78 last time I looked and that game is truly buttock crimpings.
    I tend to find that the Metacritic consensus is even more dubious than usual when the game in question is a JRPG--especially one as niché as Rorona. Rune Factory Frontier is rated 79 and that's fucking awesome.

    It's a shade under £30 at Zavvi/The Hut. Don't mind if I do.
  • Cappy 1 Oct 2010 11:31:38 11,831 posts
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    Yes, not bad for a JRPG.

    But I don't like the idea of buying something just because there's no other more attractive option. That's not a choice that's desperation.

    I've got genuine concerns about the battle system, that's one of the biggies in an RPG. You spend a lot of time battling in these sorts of games.

    Wait and see is the sensible choice.
  • Rauha 1 Oct 2010 13:10:23 4,271 posts
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    Cappy did you ever try Nier? It's an open-world action RPG. Quite refreshing in terms of plot and characters.

    It's quite marmite though.
  • FabricatedLunatic 1 Oct 2010 13:30:48 12,994 posts
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    Cappy wrote:
    But I don't like the idea of buying something just because there's no other more attractive option. That's not a choice that's desperation..
    But it'll be Roronary this Christmas without it :-(

    It's been well received by the specialist RPG review sites, so I'm fairly confident that it's a decent game.
  • Deleted user 1 October 2010 13:32:50
    FabricatedLunatic wrote:
    Cappy wrote:
    But I don't like the idea of buying something just because there's no other more attractive option. That's not a choice that's desperation..
    But it'll be Roronary this Christmas without it :-(


    augh!
  • FabricatedLunatic 1 Oct 2010 13:34:03 12,994 posts
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    Belated /coat
  • Cappy 1 Oct 2010 13:54:47 11,831 posts
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    Rauha wrote:
    Cappy did you ever try Nier? It's an open-world action RPG. Quite refreshing in terms of plot and characters.

    It's quite marmite though.

    The premise in general didn't really hook me so I haven't really bothered looking at Nier. Getting the uglyfied Xbox version instead of the original PS3 one doesn't help either, I just don't identify with main characters that look they should be in a museum exhibit wearing a fur loincloth, brandishing a piece of flint.

    After Demon's Souls I don't think I could play a game with real time combat where you just press an attack button because it's what you do to win (practically all of them) rather than each action being a considered choice.

    I'm getting too old to get much amusement from the likes of Double Dragon and Golden Axe thinly disguised.
  • Cappy 1 Oct 2010 13:56:08 11,831 posts
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    FabricatedLunatic wrote:
    But it'll be Roronary this Christmas without it :-(

    You've just committed a serious crime.

    :-D
  • Rauha 3 Oct 2010 22:40:28 4,271 posts
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    You can pre-order this for £27 at Zavvi/TheHut, if you use the 10% codes (detailed in the bargain thread).

    They also seem to have the PS3 version of Eternal Sonata. Ordered both for less than £40 :D

    Edit:

    Posted on HUKD:

    Go to www.walkers.co.uk. Register on there for the Rainy Days promotion, fill in the survey that pops up and you are awarded 2 points. These 2 points can then be redeemed for a 10% off The Hut voucher (or Zavvi).

    Site: http://www.walkers.co.uk/rainyday/home/default.aspx

    You can spam the site and get as many 10% codes you desire :D Great savings.
  • Cappy 4 Oct 2010 10:32:24 11,831 posts
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    Copies of the limited edition have started turning up on eBay. Final prices look to be around, or over the £100 price bracket, a bit too pricey for me I'm afraid.

    Though, if NISA order another print run the price might be somewhat more sane. They should have made more than 1000 units, then they could have made some money rather than the eBay scalpers.
  • Cappy 12 Oct 2010 10:18:28 11,831 posts
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    I feel like I'm kicking a crippled orphan saying this.

    They could port Atelier Rorona across to the PS2 or Wii with the exact same graphics and this game still wouldn't be considered a looker. I know graphics aren't everything but they're not even trying here.

    The main character actually looks jaggy. On the PS3. The environment are sparse and largely empty looking with none of the detail and flourish of the 2D PS2 Atelier games. It's not exactly stacking up as an improvement.

    No wonder they were happy with selling around 50,000 copies on the week of this game's Japanese debut, in terms of budget this is in D3 Publisher's Simple 2000 series territory. The environments so far seem much smaller than the PS2 games, just a series of small samey looking fixed camera horizontal strips with none of the world joined up, you just select an icon on a map and you're there so you don't even feel like you're exploring a World anymore.

    The random battles are gone in Rorona and it's very easy to avoid fights with most enemies, it's all about the alchemy now which is just numbers on a menu with no graphical flourish at all. If you cant deal with that, best steer clear.

    What you get in the end is an RPG that's different from anything else on the PS3, or any of the current home consoles. Sadly the game World has taken a massive hit in terms of graphics and exploration which was probably the cost of making a title that diverges from the mainstream so much.
  • King_Edward 12 Oct 2010 10:29:47 11,454 posts
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    I may be wrong, but didn't Atelier Iris have a select-icon-to-travel type world map?

    I'm not fussed about the graphics, but the samey, corridory comments are worrying. Keep the impressions coming.
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