|@nickthegun indeed we don't want that. But the papers are overreacting hideously. It's their own actions that have forced this process.|
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To suggest Littlejohn feels no remorse seems a bit unfounded.
I think as others have suggested, that we should be directing the outraged response at The Mail if anything.
chopsen 18,717 posts
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nickthegun wrote:Oh I don't know. Maybe not with people who've experienced life beyond more than 50 miles of where they were born, and/or have have developed the ability to look at what they're told critically.
RobTheBuilder wrote:They dont have the power, not anymore.
@nickthegun the problem is that the press have too much power which makes it harder for the government to limit it. Also, Cameron doesn't really want to reform.
For a lot of people they have a lot of influence, if only in terms of legitimatising their prejudices and giving them something to cling to when they feel challenged. Not me though. Some of my best friends are black gay transexual immigrant communists.
They are increasingly marginalised now and really struggle to influence a groundswell of opinion.
As seen by the fact that absolutely nobody gave a shit about this campaign or petition before the person in question topped themselves. Even The Daily Mail readers couldnt care less about a transsexual teacher.
Dougs 79,010 posts
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There's a generational thing too... My old dear, Mail reader and proud of it, believes everything if it's written down. If it's in black and white, it's gospel.
I assume the mail have taken down the Littlejohn article, as I certainly can't see it in this list.
mothercruncher 12,198 posts
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They removed it the day after the suicide.
@mal yes, other people have put it up in other places though
Finally found it, after digging through various 'Littlejohn is a shit' websites without even the decency to link it. Even searching for the title's no good as all the moaning sites are referencing it. Got it via web.archive.org in the end.
Seems like a pretty standard Littlejohn nastygram to me - I don't know what else I expected.
Freedom of speech is important, however if you shout "fire" in a crowded cinema and someone is killed in a stampede for the exits, you should damn well be done for manslaughter.
Littlejohn should face charges, if only to clarify the law (and to really shit him up, the hateful tossbag).
Petition has reached 200k!
Welfare state is responsible for a man killing his children
Edit: I should add that I've not confirmed this is a real front page.
Edited by Mr-Brett at 23:34:44 02-04-2013
Psychotext 60,494 posts
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It was shown on newsnight. It's real enough.
Using the death of innocent children to promote a false agenda. Sickening. Absolutely sickening.
He's everything that's wrong with being a murdering cunt, not everything that's wrong with the welfare system.
Is 60,000 a year to cover 17 children really "staggering"? That's less than 4000 per year per child, which doesn't seem like a lot of money if you have to buy food and clothes and maybe give them a little bit of pocket money, and put a roof over their heads, and buy bedding and stuff.
Yup. It's a new low for the Fail.
Read it here:
He treated his 17 sons and daughters like cash cows – generating a staggering benefits income of £60,000 a year.Thought I'd embed it for ease of viewing:
Yesterday, Mick Philpott remained shameless to the last.
The drug-taking layabout, who embodies everything that is wrong with the welfare state, was still smiling even after being convicted of killing six of his children.
Edited by Syrette at 01:04:23 03-04-2013
Heh, not even the only article.
swede 448 posts
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Incredibly bad journalism. They should be ashamed.
The man is a selfish evil **** it's as simple as that.
He was prepared to exploit everyone and everything (including the benefit system) to his own end.
I can see a lot of parallels with the (Fred) West's in the way the house 'operated'. So sad.
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Embedding images is the way forward - don't click on mail article links!
Nexus_6 3,973 posts
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At least that one poor child appears to be calling him a wanker in that front page pic.
He lived around the corner from my nan and, against every expectation, they were largely good kids, not the feral rats you would expect a situation like that to breed.
By all accounts, he ran quite a tight ship with regard to the children, it was just his bitches who he treated like shit.
Dacre: EXTRAPOLATE! STREEEETCH IT, MY FUCKING MINIONS!
Subs: Oh mighty Dacre, oh lord, but it's just one famil-
Dacre: IT IS BRITAIN, IT IS EVIL, IT IS WRETCHED IT IS another job well done thanks for my bonus!
Isn't it remarkable that a man can 'breed' children to game the system, and yet the DM finds this remarkable story to be remarkably representative of a society where such a story wouldn't, by their warped logic, be remarkable.
Edited by RedSparrows at 10:30:34 03-04-2013
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Saw this last night, and it's beyond words frankly. Quite surprising, even for the Mail. It feels like they've gone over a line, but no doubt there'll be no consequences for them. If anything, those articles will be bringing in the readers today.
I think it would be quite hard to be a layabout when you have 17 kids. £60k isn't a lot to look after them either.
That's the thing, isn't it: whilst 17 kids is just a tad irresponsible, imo, £60,000 isn't £60,000 for each. It's no use thinking that's a lot of cash when you divide it by 17, or 19, people per annum.
Because it's not.
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I like how the front page is having a go at benefits and the lower classes, whilst the back pages are dedicated to Di Canio being a fascist.
Never change Daily Mail.
The Sun didnt keep their powder dry either. Todays headline is genuinely 'CHILD MURDERING BASTARD STABBED ME 60 TIMES'.
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He called one of his kids "Duwayne". Truly an evil, evil bastard!
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The hysteria of The Wail to one side, it's saddening that one of the most notable features of this story barely gets a mention in the coverage - namely the domestic abuse and violence directed towards the "wives" in the family.
Having done time for stabbing one woman who dared to leave him (and her mum), and having treated the current women like dogs (not allowed keys, not allowed to leave the house without his permission, drove them to work, had to pay their salaries into his account only, etc), it seems a bit odd to me that the whole thing is being spun as being about benefits, when it's obviously about a horrendous, probably sociopathic violent misogynist.
On the strength of the evidence (as reported) I actually feel sorry for his wife. She shouldn't have done what she did and deserves to go to jail, but what a wretched story!
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