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  • Syrette 22 Sep 2013 20:49:18 44,208 posts
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    Well, what an exciting battle for first place that was...

    ... at the first corner, at least.

  • Syrette 22 Sep 2013 20:50:36 44,208 posts
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    And Webber was simply returning a favour.

  • altitude2k 22 Sep 2013 20:55:07 4,873 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Mekanik wrote:
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    I think Brundle lost his cool. And rightly so IMO. It's escalating to the point of being a trend among attendees at the events. I hate seeing Vettel win so dominantly, I think it does the sport no favours, but credit where credit is due.

    Loving Webber's comments now he's off the chains.
    Indeed.

    What was Webbers comments? I missed it. Dogs needed out.....
    Would also like to know. I had to head out right after the race.
    Oh I just meant in general. He's been very blunt (well...more blunt) since the news of his departure. Before you got the feeling that these opinions were being reined in for the sake of his career.

    This week he made some great comments about tyre saving being too much of a focus. He was asked "you were told you could push toward the end, though?" and he said, "well you get a bit of flexibility to push at the end of the race....but it's a novelty".
  • Syrette 22 Sep 2013 21:00:01 44,208 posts
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    Imagine if Alonso managed to get into a position where anything other than a Vettel win at Interlagos would hand Alonso the championship. And on the last lap, Webber overtakes Vettel...

  • altitude2k 22 Sep 2013 21:04:17 4,873 posts
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    Actually it might seem pathetic, but I'm going to give the stewards this one having seen the footage. Where Alonso parked himself to pick up Webber was utterly stupid - at the exit of a blind corner, right on the racing line. Surprised Alonso didn't receive a penalty.

    They might not have been travelling fast by F1 standards, but even on the trip back into the pits they're going at a fair lick and both Rosberg and Hamilton really did have to take quick action to avoid an incident.
  • Saucy 22 Sep 2013 21:10:03 2,614 posts
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    @Syrette I've tried, but I can't imagine it.
  • Saucy 22 Sep 2013 21:13:09 2,614 posts
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    @altitude2k Seems that most people agree, he couldn't have stopped in a worse place. Good to see the stewards didn't have a problem with the taxi ride, but the pickup was dangerous.
  • altitude2k 22 Sep 2013 21:39:32 4,873 posts
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    SaucyGeoff wrote:
    @altitude2k Seems that most people agree, he couldn't have stopped in a worse place. Good to see the stewards didn't have a problem with the taxi ride, but the pickup was dangerous.
    Basically what Hamilton said. They should allow it, but it should be done safely. This was not safe in any way shape or form!
  • Blaizefm 22 Sep 2013 21:41:29 232 posts
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    That was the most boring race I have ever seen, and that includes the Schumacher years. I don't doubt Vettel's talent but him winning all the time is massively, incredibly boring. It's interesting that you can't find any viewing figures this season online. Wonder what they are?
  • Kostabi 22 Sep 2013 21:45:29 5,086 posts
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    http://f1broadcasting.wordpress.com/

    Best place I've found for stuff relating to F1 viewing figures.
  • Blaizefm 22 Sep 2013 22:20:18 232 posts
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    Great website. Thanks!
  • Psychotext 23 Sep 2013 02:27:59 55,032 posts
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    Apparently the Webber side of the penalty was because he ignored the marshals who were telling him not to go back on the track... which is fair I guess.

    Especially when you saw how Hamilton had to avoid Alonso (had it been a couple of seconds later, he'd have hit Webber).
  • thelzdking 23 Sep 2013 04:29:57 4,413 posts
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    I fell asleep for about thirty minutes during this race and after I woke up it took me around ten laps to realise that I'd actually missed some of it.
  • urban 24 Sep 2013 10:39:51 11,067 posts
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    I didn't even watch this weeks race, saw the footage of Webber getting on the car, I can understand why he went around the other side so he didn't get ripped off the car as it went around the left hander course.

    Still looked fucking dangerous though

    Boring though by the sounds of it
  • altitude2k 24 Sep 2013 19:10:07 4,873 posts
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    I do love MW but I can't believe he still doesn't realise what the problem was.
  • DanB24 25 Sep 2013 13:23:50 2,368 posts
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    Thinking about they really never should have changed the tyres. It really did end the championship.
  • Mekanik 26 Sep 2013 17:52:31 3,734 posts
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    Yep Dan. That pretty much ended the overall competition. That and Newey upping his game around the same time.
  • DanB24 27 Sep 2013 21:16:03 2,368 posts
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    Indeed. Quite the double whammy.
  • DanB24 1 Oct 2013 10:21:59 2,368 posts
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    Food for thought.
    http://www.pitpass.com/50014/Minardi-questions-Vettels-Singapore-superiority
  • Psychotext 1 Oct 2013 11:59:02 55,032 posts
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    Except if you actually listen, there's nothing strange there (his pole lap is online). The difference in reality is that you've got a driver in clear air on fresh tyres and who has been told to really go for it (Rosberg was being told to manage his tyres at the same time).

    It's not the first time it's been accused either, as it was said that this pic proves Webber had traction control:



    I suspect Newey loves this shit. He must feel like a god when people start scrabbling around looking for how he does it.
  • Nth 1 Oct 2013 12:04:52 3,126 posts
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    Will be interesting to see if Ricciardo can get Webber's old car off the line next year ;)
  • DanB24 1 Oct 2013 18:42:24 2,368 posts
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    Been on before but well worth a watch if you've not seen it.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00z8v18/Grand_Prix_The_Killer_Years/
  • Kostabi 1 Oct 2013 19:50:36 5,086 posts
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    DanB24 wrote:
    Food for thought.
    http://www.pitpass.com/50014/Minardi-questions-Vettels-Singapore-superiority
    Couldn't the engine sound just be down to Vettel running a different spec exhaust to Webber? The 50m difference in stepping on the gas is a little harder to explain though as surely his setup can't be that different from his team mates in getting the power down.

    I can't remember Minardi ever really spouting off on things for attention in the past.
  • DanB24 1 Oct 2013 20:39:37 2,368 posts
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    Indeed. The fact he's never really said anything before certainly does lend more credence to it.
  • superdelphinus 1 Oct 2013 21:15:52 8,125 posts
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    Why?
  • Psychotext 1 Oct 2013 22:01:14 55,032 posts
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    That aspect of Webber vs Vettel has been discussed for ages though. Like Hamilton, Vettel is far happier bouncing off kerbs and getting the power down when the car isn't settled. Webber is far more precise but can't handle the car being on the ragged edge.
  • Psychotext 2 Oct 2013 20:12:01 55,032 posts
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    Interesting explanation for the extra grip:
    Has EG turned off auto linking or something?

    Edited by Psychotext at 20:15:15 02-10-2013

    Edited by Psychotext at 23:58:19 02-10-2013
  • Bremenacht 2 Oct 2013 22:18:06 19,648 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Interesting explanation for the extra grip:
    Has EG turned off auto linking or something?
    Better, I hope.
  • Psychotext 2 Oct 2013 23:57:42 55,032 posts
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    Wow, mine was super fucked up. Not sure what happened there. Do I need to exclude the http or something?

    That aside, looking like a typhoon might hit the area on Sunday, so every chance the race gets abandoned.

    Weather in Korea

    Edited by Psychotext at 23:57:58 02-10-2013
  • Psychotext 3 Oct 2013 11:15:44 55,032 posts
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    Looks like the typhoon is heading towards China instead. Still forecast for rain and high wind at the track though.
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