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  • Bremenacht 26 Aug 2013 18:30:57 17,600 posts
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    I enjoyed the racing, but the big problem was that not much happened with those competing for the DC. Vettel wins just kill the interest, rendering the Alonso/Hamilton/Kimi/Webber competition as a mere race for scraps. Kimi dropping out sucked.

    Amazing to say, but qualifying was much more exciting.

    (Oh, 50pts on the league thingy, and still got knocked down a place. It's tough near the top!)
  • Psychotext 26 Aug 2013 19:03:46 53,801 posts
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    Bremenacht wrote:
    I enjoyed the racing, but the big problem was that not much happened with those competing for the DC. Vettel wins just kill the interest, rendering the Alonso/Hamilton/Kimi/Webber competition as a mere race for scraps. Kimi dropping out sucked.
    There really wasn't a whole lot of competition between them anyway.
  • mal 26 Aug 2013 19:10:43 22,333 posts
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    At least 50% of the races are less exciting than the qualifying that preceded them. But that's about how good qualifying can be than the races getting significantly worse, I reckon.

    Slightly irritating, I predicted a VET/ALO 1-2 down the pub on Friday, but actually put Alonso 4th in my web predictions. Still, having Vettel as fastest lap for weeks has finally paid off :)

    Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!

  • altitude2k 26 Aug 2013 19:48:48 3,743 posts
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    Have got 49 and 52 points from the last two races. 18th now. I'd say my experiment/lack of interest, by not changing the predictions all season, is proving reasonably successful.
  • kentmonkey 27 Aug 2013 17:37:26 20,430 posts
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    Ok, what fucknugget has knocked me off the top spot? I was enjoying being up there! I was ranked in the top 10 in the world (*Legal statement: World in this context refers to any countries that are participating in the Castrol Predictor Wotsit) at one point too. Having a shit three weeks. Actually, no, I've found my form. The good stuff was a blip.

    Anyway, curse you!
  • altitude2k 2 Sep 2013 20:55:33 3,743 posts
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    Ricciardo confirmed for RB next year. Good luck to him, I say. Great guy and a none-too-shabby driver.

    That said, this was clearly a move not to piss off Vettel.
  • Flying_Pig 2 Sep 2013 21:22:49 10,682 posts
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    Probably the right decision all-in-all. Looking forward seeing him go up again SV in the same hardware.
  • Kostabi 2 Sep 2013 21:34:52 4,874 posts
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    Had to be really otherwise Red Bull would have made their whole young driver program and Toro Rosso look utterly pointless.

    So... the press to now peddle Kimi back to Ferrari again?
  • altitude2k 2 Sep 2013 21:39:08 3,743 posts
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    Always seemed like the more viable option for him, to me.

    That said, aside from Ricciardo I fully expect things to remain with the status quo next year at the top teams.
  • Psychotext 2 Sep 2013 22:00:30 53,801 posts
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    altitude2k wrote:
    That said, this was clearly a move not to piss off Vettel.
    Doubt it, Vettel's good buddies with Kimi.

    I personally think it's a waste of a top end seat, and frankly there are far better drivers coming in their young driver program.
  • Nth 3 Sep 2013 07:43:46 3,118 posts
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    This only proves their driver talent programme is worthwhile if he's any good. If Kimi does end up at Ferrari as rumoured then RB look quite weak in the driver department. However I expect Ferrari to continue their policy of losing the constructor's championship before its even started by keeping Massa.
  • El_MUERkO 3 Sep 2013 08:05:27 16,949 posts
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    Could Kimi really go back to Ferrari, he made them pay him millions while he went Rallying. He wanted more money than Red Bull would pay so if Lotus implodes it leaves him in an odd position. McCartney could use him but they'd have to buy out one of their drivers contracts. He'd make a great partner for Lewis but ditching Rosberg would not go down well with the fans.
  • Nth 3 Sep 2013 10:36:10 3,118 posts
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    Kimi didn't make them, they wanted him gone so had to pay off his contract.
  • shamblemonkee 3 Sep 2013 11:09:06 14,257 posts
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    @Nth re: Massa, can't help but feel a little sorry for Massa, so close in 2008, then his injury in 2009 and since then he's had a real struggle to recover his form. I'm not saying he is of the same calibre as Ham, Vet, Alo, Kimi but there are many worse drivers currently in F1.

    I'm of the opinion Kimi will stay put at Renault, can't see Ferrari having him back and Massa will provide consitency (here's your openeing for the jibe "yup, constently shit!" ;-) for next year when a lot of other variables change with regard to the cars.

    Edited by shamblemonkee at 11:11:31 03-09-2013
  • Bremenacht 3 Sep 2013 11:44:47 17,600 posts
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    Same here. He's a tenacious and likable driver. He proably needs to be somewhere like Williams, where he could be team lead andreally push them along. I think his ambition has gone though.
  • Nth 3 Sep 2013 14:49:26 3,118 posts
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    He's not been the same since the accident in the same way Ralf lost something after 2 big shunts, he's a lovely guy but the facts are that since the accident he's been a liability and the WCC is worth a lot of money to the teams.
  • shamblemonkee 3 Sep 2013 15:01:00 14,257 posts
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    Very true, although Ferrari is of course helped with it's special concessions. I expect Massa to bed i nthe new spec car next year and then depart Ferrari. By then they should have some new blood through their driver programme and either slot them in to the big seat or at Sauber or something and move a current driver in.

    As for Monza this weekend, i'm away but i'm sort of expecting another Vettel drubbing.
  • Psychotext 3 Sep 2013 17:01:37 53,801 posts
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    Could see it coming down to Ferrari vs Red Bull vs Lotus. I don't think Merc will have such a strong car there, but who knows, it's been up and down lately7.
  • Bremenacht 3 Sep 2013 17:24:46 17,600 posts
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    I figure Monza will be the last RB rollover and that Mercedes should be better in the remaining races. Probably 'cos I read it somewhere!
  • superdelphinus 3 Sep 2013 18:28:01 8,016 posts
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    Good luck to ricciardo

    I expect Ferrari to win at monza, unless merc sort their package out. Doubt rbr will win in normal circumstances
  • altitude2k 3 Sep 2013 21:33:19 3,743 posts
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    Mercedes have modified their low-downforce package for Monza. Last-minute changes and starting on the back foot seems to suit Merc this year, so who knows.
  • DanB24 4 Sep 2013 18:33:38 1,783 posts
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8244549.stm
    Those were the days. Back when Jordan where for one year at least, awesome. :)
    Still possibly my favourite season. :) But maybe tied with 2003.
  • Mekanik 5 Sep 2013 19:44:56 3,427 posts
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    Watching that brings back some ace memories.

    The cars look so much faster then...
  • DanB24 7 Sep 2013 10:12:56 1,783 posts
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    They really do don't they? I think the cars looked better proportioned too.
  • altitude2k 7 Sep 2013 12:15:11 3,743 posts
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    Uuurrrgghh...I really dislike Bernie Ecclestone. That interview with Martin Brundle was just painful, and often just complete and utter bullshit.
  • BillMurray 7 Sep 2013 13:28:54 7,607 posts
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    Have these been mentioned yet? These new thermal cameras look bloody great.
  • altitude2k 7 Sep 2013 13:46:38 3,743 posts
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    Sutil. Cunt.
  • SaucyGeoff 7 Sep 2013 13:46:58 2,559 posts
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    Rai, Hamilton and Grosjean have free call on strategy now. Wonder if they start on hards and try to do a Perez.

    Edited by SaucyGeoff at 13:48:45 07-09-2013
  • altitude2k 7 Sep 2013 13:48:39 3,743 posts
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    Nah. It'll piss it down it'll be a level field.
  • Deleted user 7 September 2013 13:50:17
    Those thermal cameras are great.

    Sutil receiving a pen i think! Hamilton looks like he going to cry there.
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