Surround sound for complete n00bs

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  • MrTomFTW Moderator 10 Jan 2009 15:21:31 37,880 posts
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    Afternoon,

    Even though I've got a nice HDTV, 360 and Sky+ it all the sound just comes through the shitty TV speakers. I know nothing about suitable systems for surround sound. I've Googled a bit, but I'm still clueless... Where do I begin?

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  • buggrit 10 Jan 2009 15:23:24 5,178 posts
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    Decide how much money you want to spend and how much space you have, then ask again :)
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 10 Jan 2009 15:45:06 37,880 posts
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    Hahahaha, I dunno 200-300?

    Space... Well it's a small room. There's plenty of room in the cabinet.

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  • bauhaus 10 Jan 2009 16:22:20 3,512 posts
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    I think if you get the same brand as your TV then they can intergrate with existing remotes etc. I just bought a samsung surround and it fits well with the TV (AnyNet is the name of the system) Sony's do the same.

    Perhaps worth pondering, I also have a Sony HD/DVD recorder and its a pain having to use seperate remote for that, wish I had a Samsung model.
  • AlcohollicA 10 Jan 2009 16:24:47 2,355 posts
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    I have surround sound set up through my dvd player, it came with the speakers. No idea how to connect anything else to it.

  • buggrit 11 Jan 2009 08:45:53 5,178 posts
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    A tad over the budget, but better than those all-in-one jobs by a frigging mile and you can upgrade the speakers at your leisure:
    Try this
  • Deleted user 11 January 2009 08:53:22
    I'd buy a home theatre 5.1 setup from Samsung, Sony, LG, etc. Make sure it can decode at least Dolby Digital and hopefully even DTS. Those logos are usually on the box.

    If your Sky+ box has optical out, make sure the amp has optical in, etc. You don't want to buy converters or being forced to swap audio cables.
  • silentbob 11 Jan 2009 10:10:55 28,956 posts
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    valli wrote:
    I'd buy a home theatre 5.1 setup from Samsung, Sony, LG, etc. Make sure it can decode at least Dolby Digital and hopefully even DTS. Those logos are usually on the box.

    If your Sky+ box has optical out, make sure the amp has optical in, etc. You don't want to buy converters or being forced to swap audio cables.
    If you'll forgive me, can I suggest a different direction.

    The Onkyo SR506 amp plus a set of Tannoy FX speakers shouldn't cost much more than 350. For that you get an HDMI switch with 3 inputs, 2 optical input and 2 coax 4 potential input digital audio devices) DD/DTS/DPL PLus decoding and a fairly solid set of surround speakers.

    Can be had from Richer Sounds.

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  • buggrit 11 Jan 2009 10:21:32 5,178 posts
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    silentbob - did you look at what I linked to? I think the amp in that setup IS a 506.
    Edit: More likely to be a 576, actually.
  • Deleted user 11 January 2009 10:28:54
    Wow, those are incredibly low prices for a very good stand alone amp alone. Since when is Onkyo a low budget brand? :)

    I should probably upgrade from the 2003 "state of the art" Sony setup myself.
  • Fonzie 11 Jan 2009 13:18:33 1,840 posts
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    A little bit over your budget, but I want this
  • Deleted user 11 January 2009 13:27:10
    silentbob wrote:
    valli wrote:
    I'd buy a home theatre 5.1 setup from Samsung, Sony, LG, etc. Make sure it can decode at least Dolby Digital and hopefully even DTS. Those logos are usually on the box.

    If your Sky+ box has optical out, make sure the amp has optical in, etc. You don't want to buy converters or being forced to swap audio cables.
    If you'll forgive me, can I suggest a different direction.

    The Onkyo SR506 amp plus a set of Tannoy FX speakers shouldn't cost much more than 350. For that you get an HDMI switch with 3 inputs, 2 optical input and 2 coax 4 potential input digital audio devices) DD/DTS/DPL PLus decoding and a fairly solid set of surround speakers.

    Can be had from Richer Sounds.
    +1
  • Deleted user 11 January 2009 13:27:45
    valli wrote:
    Wow, those are incredibly low prices for a very good stand alone amp alone. Since when is Onkyo a low budget brand? :)

    I should probably upgrade from the 2003 "state of the art" Sony setup myself.
    You should just upgrade from Sony :D
  • wayneh 11 Jan 2009 13:38:53 2,314 posts
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    If you can afford it HDMI input system, most home theatre systems are output systems and have very limited inputs.

    Act like a dumbshit and they will treat you as an equal

  • Deleted user 11 January 2009 13:44:24
    CINEMA!!
  • motti82 11 Jan 2009 13:47:05 2,882 posts
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    The Onkyo's would be nice mate, but it might be worth seeing if you can get one of the "all in one" boxes, Panasonic do some good bundles, after reading "What Hi-Fi" who love owt lavishly expensive or made by Panasonic, Apple or Onkyo.
  • steellam 11 Jan 2009 13:48:19 1,045 posts
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    All in one systems are the spawn of the devil (maybe an overreaction )
  • motti82 11 Jan 2009 14:04:59 2,882 posts
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    I'm only suggested them because of his budget, and having actually been to DDev's house on several occasions, I know what he likes.
  • silentbob 11 Jan 2009 14:12:02 28,956 posts
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    buggrit wrote:
    A tad over the budget, but better than those all-in-one jobs by a frigging mile and you can upgrade the speakers at your leisure:
    Try this
    Sorry, I was responding to Valli. Looks good to me, I'm not sure about the speaker package.

    I think either option'd tick the boxes required and give good upgrade potential.

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  • MrTomFTW Moderator 11 Jan 2009 14:42:33 37,880 posts
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    I'm still not sure how these things work. For instance... How would I hook my Xbox up to an amp? I use a bog standard HDMI cable for the TV.

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  • MrTomFTW Moderator 11 Jan 2009 14:44:25 37,880 posts
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    Thanks Harry!

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  • wizardofoz85 11 Jan 2009 15:05:42 313 posts
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    Harry wrote:
    DDevil wrote:
    I'm still not sure how these things work. For instance... How would I hook my Xbox up to an amp? I use a bog standard HDMI cable for the TV.

    My Freesat, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 all connect to my AV amp with a HDMI cable each. The amp sends the image to the TV via a single HDMI cable.

    How does it work if you have the 360 and the ps3 on at the same time? Just wondering as I sometimes download a demo on one while playing a game on the other.
  • wizardofoz85 11 Jan 2009 15:12:45 313 posts
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    thanks for letting me know. I'm planning on getting a 5.1 system soon and have been wondering what would happen.

    I did a quick bit of research on the onkyo system linked somewhere about and apparently it doesn't send the sound through properly or something through a hdmi cable. You would also need to connect up whatever you want with an optical cable as well to get truesound.
    I've also been looking at the sony htss/htsf-1300 which apparently will send the sound through fully with just a hdmi cable. and it's a bit cheaper so that might be an option for others too.
  • Deleted user 11 January 2009 15:38:21
    Re. full sound over hdmi, the receiver must support hdmi 1.3 for that to work iirc.
  • caligari 11 Mar 2009 21:42:51 17,024 posts
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    Darn.

    I ordered one of these 5.1 'sound projector' thingums for my 32" LCD. The reviews are pretty good AND I thought it would be easier than having wires all over the place.

    One problem - it's freaking massive! I'm having to send it back as there is just no way that I can have this standing under or in front of my TV. ;_;

    Does anyone know if there is a slightly smaller version available?
  • Deleted user 11 March 2009 21:48:51
    paging phAg to the thread
  • Hunam 11 Mar 2009 21:56:37 20,674 posts
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    How the fuck does a 5.1 sound projector work? Sounds like it's just spreading it wide across the front and hoping on reflections.
  • Fizzog 11 Mar 2009 21:58:13 4,108 posts
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    caligari wrote:
    Darn.

    I ordered one of these 5.1 'sound projector' thingums for my 32" LCD. The reviews are pretty good AND I thought it would be easier than having wires all over the place.

    One problem - it's freaking massive! I'm having to send it back as there is just no way that I can have this standing under or in front of my TV. ;_;

    Does anyone know if there is a slightly smaller version available?

    How big is it? Say in comparison with your tv's width?
  • funkstar 11 Mar 2009 22:01:22 1,194 posts
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    Hunam wrote:
    How the fuck does a 5.1 sound projector work? Sounds like it's just spreading it wide across the front and hoping on reflections.

    thats pretty much how they work

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