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  • Deleted user 14 January 2010 12:56:27
    The problem is Gary McKinnon hasnt really committed a proper crime - so the justice system doesnt feel inclined to be lenient with him.

    If he'd driven around looking a for a woman in a restaurant and then poured bleach over her face, or kicked a middle aged father to death - then judges would be lining up to let him off and name him as the real victim.

    As it is hes just upset the Americans - which obviously deserves 60 years in some of the developed worlds most brutal prisons.
  • Syrette 14 Jan 2010 12:58:23 43,604 posts
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    ruggedtoast wrote:
    If he'd driven around looking a for a woman in a restaurant and then poured bleach over her face, or kicked a middle aged father to death - then judges would be lining up to let him off and name him as the real victim.

    This.

    That bleaching story and the sentence the little prick got was incredible.

  • Deleted user 15 May 2010 19:47:54
    Just when all seemed lost, will McKinnon evade pound me in the ass Federal prison after all?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8684746.stm

    Apparently Cleggs and Cams called for his 'ordeal to end' when in opposition, so his mums getting all excited about them being in power.

    They would not want to be the type of government which broke its promises as soon as it took power, she said.

    No no, quite right.

    She said she had "total trust" that the new coalition would "honour its promise".

    Absolutely.

    "This government is new, it's fresh and they don't want to be seen as the kind of government that is going to break its promises as soon as it gets in."

    Fresh and new!

    "It has said goodbye to the old thing of saying one thing and doing another and I totally trust they will do as they have said," she said.

    Yes!

    This government is almost totally different to old pension raiding Iraq invading One Eyed Willy as was.

    Gary is saved.
  • Deleted user 15 May 2010 19:50:17
    Would be nice.
  • FWB 15 May 2010 19:59:37 44,671 posts
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    Haven't got much sympathy for him.
  • Dougs 20 May 2010 11:41:16 68,063 posts
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    Extradition on hold whilst medical evidence is reviewed.
  • StarchildHypocrethes 20 May 2010 11:48:24 25,942 posts
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    Send him down!
  • glaeken 20 May 2010 11:52:29 11,199 posts
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    My overwhelming feeling on this is it all seems like a colossal waste of time. He did no permanent damage and in fact did the US a favour really in showing up their weak security before someone who had genuine bad intentions took advantage.

    He was a twat for doing what he did but pursuing it for all these years just seems like a waste of time for everyone concerned.
  • mcmonkeyplc 20 May 2010 11:54:26 39,464 posts
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    Making an example of him init.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • MetalDog 20 May 2010 12:02:58 23,701 posts
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    He's doing us all a favour by bringing the massively one-sided extradition agreement between Britain and the States into the headlines repeatedly.

    If the states decide they want your arse, they technically don't even need to provide a reason under the current terms. That situation is not two-way.

    -- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

  • Khanivor 20 May 2010 12:54:36 40,861 posts
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    Isn't it estimated that something like half the prison population have mental problems? Let's just let them all out, it's the decent thing to do.
  • Deleted user 20 May 2010 12:56:56
    That depends on what threat they pose to themselves and others once they are out doesn't it? Does McKinnon still pose a threat to himself or others (genuine question)?
  • Khanivor 20 May 2010 13:04:57 40,861 posts
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    The case for his release isn't based on whether he is a danger, it's based on "aw, the poor thing, he was only trying to find aliens and says he isn't right in the head, gwan let him off".
  • RedSparrows 20 May 2010 13:07:51 22,911 posts
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    I'm going to go rob a bank. I expect to be let off.

    OHWAIT
  • StarchildHypocrethes 20 May 2010 13:11:07 25,942 posts
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    Quick, make up an illness you might have!
  • Deleted user 20 May 2010 13:17:26
    Khanivor wrote:
    The case for his release isn't based on whether he is a danger, it's based on "aw, the poor thing, he was only trying to find aliens and says he isn't right in the head, gwan let him off".

    Indeed - but your response that we should let all people with mental problems go thereby highlighting some sort of fallacy regarding the whole mental case issue is related to the whole "danger to society" thing isn't it?
  • RedSparrows 20 May 2010 13:21:28 22,911 posts
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    Collymilad wrote:
    I see the "follow the law over common sense, not wavering AT ALL" brigade is out in force.

    Sickening.

    I'm interested in that phrase 'common sense' in use here. What does it even mean, especially given 'common sense' is not some pure objective judge itself?
  • Khanivor 20 May 2010 13:30:17 40,861 posts
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    I'd be of the opinion common sense would be to let his guilt or innocence be decided in a court of law rather than the court of public opinion.

    Even people diagnosed with severe mental problems to the extent that they are unable to differentiate between right and wrong, have their fates decided by the legal system not the cause célèbre system
  • RedSparrows 20 May 2010 14:21:50 22,911 posts
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    Ah yes, that ancient and venerable system of cause célèbre
  • Psychotext 16 Oct 2012 12:44:21 54,313 posts
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    Excellent. Poor bastard has been punished for long enough.
  • chopsen 16 Oct 2012 12:46:25 16,094 posts
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    He'll still stand trial in this country though, no?
  • chopsen 16 Oct 2012 12:47:26 16,094 posts
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    Also, glad to see the government reinforcing the idea that if you want to get your way, tell people you're going to kill yourself.
  • Psychotext 16 Oct 2012 12:47:30 54,313 posts
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    No idea, I was thinking more of the threat of extradition hanging over his head.
  • StarchildHypocrethes 16 Oct 2012 12:54:44 25,942 posts
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    Pfft. Ship him out.
  • Deleted user 16 October 2012 12:56:07
    Do feel a bit sorry for him. Although I hate the fact that aspergers was used as some very thin attempt at explaining his actions.
  • Psychotext 16 Oct 2012 13:04:51 54,313 posts
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    Oh I don't know, aspergers is used as an excuse for all sorts of asshattery around here. If it's good for forumites it should be good for the real world. :)
  • senso-ji 16 Oct 2012 13:15:59 5,923 posts
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    Chopsen wrote:
    Also, glad to see the government reinforcing the idea that if you want to get your way, tell people you're going to kill yourself.
    I doubt that would have worked for Abu Hamza and friends.

    Anyway, it's a good decision, because the extradition laws between the UK and US are atrocious and need changing.
  • Waffleaber 16 Oct 2012 13:21:49 424 posts
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    Good.
    Now stick him on trial here, give him some meaningless sentence to be carried out in some low security prison hospital then quietly give him a job in a few years.
    Anyone who can access another nations government computer system needs to be on our payroll.
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