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  • faux-C 17 Jul 2008 01:09:44 9,441 posts
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    Shinji wrote:
    Coffee, Cake & Kink over on Endell Street uses Monmouth beans, and do some of the nicest iced coffees in London (tall glasses full of coffee ice pieces, with fresh hot coffee poured over them at your table). There's also a Monmouth cafe at Borough Market which is a fair bit bigger than the Covent Garden store, and I believe that Flat White, an awesome little cafe over at the far end of Soho, also uses Monmouth beans. Yum.

    The jazz cafe at Foyles uses Monmouth stuff too.
  • cubbymoore 17 Jul 2008 02:02:04 36,501 posts
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    I don't rate the coffee at the jazz cafe at all.
  • cubbymoore 17 Jul 2008 16:55:38 36,501 posts
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    freaxgamer wrote:
    ASDA's Rocket Fuel is a good wakey wakey coffee
    Oh god, oh god, oh god. Why did I think it would be a good idea to try this? This tastes completely of guarana and nothing like coffee. And guarana tastes like mud.

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  • otto Moderator 10 Oct 2009 12:42:57 49,320 posts
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    OK, wtf is this.

    Coffee Republic closed down; the Beckenham High Street branch was taken over by an independent coffee shop. Brilliant, thinks I, support local small business! Went in this morning to give them my custom.

    I ask for a macchiato - I get a latte. "Excuse me, I asked for a macchiato. This isn't a macchiato!"

    "Oh, but I just pressed the button on the machine and that's what comes out."

    "But it's not a macchiato - I asked for a macchiato. Could you make me one please?"

    "Yeah OK, how do you make it?"

    Look, let's make allowances, they're new and this is clearly the Saturday morning help. You'd think they'd have recruited a barrista but I'll let it pass. The new proprietor comes round, is very friendly and helpful. "Oh yes, someone else mentioned that! So how would you like us to make it?"

    Me (inwardly o_O that the owner of a coffee shop should not know what a macchiato is): "just a single espresso with a drop of milk foam on top please."

    She gives me that - in a giant Starbucks style mug.

    "O.... kay. Thanks! And a babycino please for the kids."

    Twenty seconds later: a bucket full of scalding hot milk with a thin layer of weak bubbles.

    Now you do not have to be a Seattle-trained barrista to work out that a kids foamy milk drink should be (a) foamy, (b) reasonably small and (c) unlikely to send the child on a one-way trip to the burns unit.

    Honestly, this is not Bumfuck Herefordshire, this is in London, supposedly one of the world's most dynamic and diverse cities! I wasn't asking for the moon on a stick, just a standard coffee in a specialist coffee shop.

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  • Metalfish 10 Oct 2009 12:44:48 8,830 posts
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    Maybe you should have provided you coffee expert consultant skills and advised them that they had problems, eh?
  • otto Moderator 10 Oct 2009 12:48:43 49,320 posts
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    Well I did of course! They were nice people and we had a nice chat about it but I do wonder at the sort of person who starts up a business in the current climate without the first notion of the product they're trying to sell.

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  • paul_haine 10 Oct 2009 12:52:39 4,205 posts
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    otto wrote:
    The new proprietor comes round, is very friendly and helpful. "Oh yes, someone else mentioned that! So how would you like us to make it?"

    You see, my response to that would have been along the lines of "First, I'd like you to go and learn what a macchiato is. Then come back. Then serve me one"

    otto write:
    I do wonder at the sort of person who starts up a business in the current climate without the first notion of the product they're trying to sell.

    Maybe it was the coffee equivalent of one of those places that spring up to sell calendars and other seasonal crap in vacant lots. They'll probably be gone in a month or two.
  • Megapocalypse 10 Oct 2009 12:52:40 5,468 posts
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    Heh, thats what you get for ordering girlie drink. Just a straight black coffee for me please. Hard to mess that one up. :D
  • otto Moderator 10 Oct 2009 12:56:50 49,320 posts
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    paul_haine wrote:
    They'll probably be gone in a month or two.
    I'm afraid that's probably true. :(

    But it makes me sad. There's definitely a market for a decent independent coffee shop here, all we've got is a sodding Costa and Nero. Why don't people inform themselves of the market before starting a business? What about their backers? Wouldn't the bank want to check that their investment was in sound hands? I don't want businesses to fail; then you just end up with samizdat chains.

    I should have realised there was something wrong as soon as I saw that they don't even have proper espresso machines - just an automatic machine like the ones you get in business class lounges. What *is* the point??

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  • sirtacos 10 Oct 2009 15:00:05 7,316 posts
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    Coffee + cigarette = megawin

    There really is no better combination.
  • BravoGolf Moderator 30 Nov 2009 11:31:03 12,746 posts
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    I've decided to invest in a new espresso machine for Christmas. I'd like one that has a milk steamer and makes really good espresso shots. Has anyone got any recommendations? I have this machine at the moment. I don't need a grinder, have a separate one for that.
  • Pike 30 Nov 2009 12:46:06 13,447 posts
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    What is your price range?
  • BravoGolf Moderator 30 Nov 2009 20:41:45 12,746 posts
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    Pike wrote:
    What is your price range?

    Dunno, up to 200 maybe but would go more or less depending on the machine :-D
  • mrharvest 30 Nov 2009 21:33:26 5,200 posts
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    If I started a coffee shop and someone ordered me a macchiato I'd tell them to fuckiato off. Because my coffee shop would serve coffee. If you asked nicely I might cough up some dregs of a leftover milk but otherwise you'd just get coffee.

    I'd get tons of business. Tons I tell you. :)
  • chopsen 30 Nov 2009 21:35:52 16,125 posts
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    Macchiato is coffee.
  • Pike 30 Nov 2009 21:37:43 13,447 posts
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    In that price range I guess something from Gaggia or Isomac would be god bets. I have an Isomac Giada, which used to work well, when I still used it. I have let it waste a way a bit lately though, since I drink coffee at home so seldom these days.
  • buggrit 30 Nov 2009 22:01:02 5,179 posts
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    Mr Harvest wrote:
    If I started a coffee shop and someone ordered me a macchiato I'd tell them to fuckiato off. Because my coffee shop would serve coffee. If you asked nicely I might cough up some dregs of a leftover milk but otherwise you'd just get coffee.

    I'd get tons of business. Tons I tell you. :)
    If I went into a coffee shop and couldn't get a macchiato I would leave immediately.
  • Pike 30 Nov 2009 22:06:28 13,447 posts
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    Mr Harvest wrote:
    If I started a coffee shop and someone ordered me a macchiato I'd tell them to fuckiato off. Because my coffee shop would serve coffee. If you asked nicely I might cough up some dregs of a leftover milk but otherwise you'd just get coffee.

    I'd get tons of business. Tons I tell you. :)

    Only because most Brits can't tell the difference between coffee and brown piss. You have an inferior coffee culture to even the US.
  • chopsen 30 Nov 2009 22:17:21 16,125 posts
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    You're just jealous you don't understand tea
  • BravoGolf Moderator 30 Nov 2009 22:33:59 12,746 posts
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    Hmm, what do you think of this? Anyone got one?
  • mal 30 Nov 2009 23:25:30 22,693 posts
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    What are these illy 'pods' it talks about? I don't trust machines that take pods since it's so easy to get some ground beans and tamp them yourself. Apart from that, 15 bar sounds okay - I've seen more but 15 sounds like enough.

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  • chopsen 30 Nov 2009 23:28:59 16,125 posts
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    NO! Don't get a pod machine!

    Get a proper machine you can put just any old coffee in.
  • skuzzbag 30 Nov 2009 23:39:42 5,651 posts
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    Pike wrote:
    Only because most Brits can't tell the difference between coffee and brown piss. You have an inferior coffee culture to even the US.

    I use a Bialetti.

    My coffee is ace, but then it all depends upon the quality of the beans, and you can certainly get served shit coffee in countries that make claims similar to yours.
  • mrharvest 1 Dec 2009 06:20:10 5,200 posts
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    Pike wrote:
    Mr Harvest wrote:
    If I started a coffee shop and someone ordered me a macchiato I'd tell them to fuckiato off. Because my coffee shop would serve coffee. If you asked nicely I might cough up some dregs of a leftover milk but otherwise you'd just get coffee.

    I'd get tons of business. Tons I tell you. :)
    Only because most Brits can't tell the difference between coffee and brown piss. You have an inferior coffee culture to even the US.
    Of course I'm not a Brit but come from the country that drinks the most coffee per capita. I just think it's a bit silly that many 'coffee drinkers' care more about how their milk is frothed than how the actual coffee tastes.
  • Deleted user 1 December 2009 06:21:44
    Don't you fucking dare bring so much as a spot of milk near my coffee.
  • Gland 1 Dec 2009 06:27:10 78,442 posts
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    Pike wrote:
    Mr Harvest wrote:
    If I started a coffee shop and someone ordered me a macchiato I'd tell them to fuckiato off. Because my coffee shop would serve coffee. If you asked nicely I might cough up some dregs of a leftover milk but otherwise you'd just get coffee.

    I'd get tons of business. Tons I tell you. :)

    Only because most Brits can't tell the difference between coffee and brown piss. You have an inferior coffee culture to even the US.
    Aren't you a brit, Pike? Just because you moved doesn't make you suddenly superior. And if you aren't a brit then why the discrimination bullshit? You sound more than a little jealous with your constant remarks.

    /thumbs nose and sips a gourmet Yirgacheffe blend

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  • Pike 1 Dec 2009 08:54:17 13,447 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    [Aren't you a brit, Pike?

    Erm, no, not even a little. And if I make snide remarks about Britain it's mostly because of the fact that this forum is made up mostly of brits, which means your country is being discussed more often. I like Britain, more than most other countries in Europe besides my own, but that doesn't mean there isn't reason to give you gus shit for some things that are less than enthusing about your country, in particular when people go off on some ill informed rant about how shitty the US is. Mostly my comments are meant to be tounge in cheek, but I guess that doesn't come across clearly enough in writing.

    That said, when it comes to coffee I genuinely bbelieve that England is indeed a horrible place in general. Now of course some of you do know how to make a good cup, but you can't really think that what will be served to you if you order a coffee in a run of the mill pub or restaurant is generally acceptable.

    I also didn't know Mr Harvest was a Finn.

  • otto Moderator 1 Dec 2009 08:58:26 49,320 posts
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    I'm afraid he's right about the shit that passes for coffee in Britain. :(

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  • Gland 1 Dec 2009 09:01:24 78,442 posts
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    Oh yeah, but then tea is more popular and the same could be said for the piss that seems to pass for tea in many, many countries.

    Certainly not an excuse to have a dig at the people, though.

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