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  • fletch273 10 Jul 2008 15:14:28 92 posts
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    So I've just installed Ubuntu on an old PC of mine. I haven't had time to play around with it yet and get used to the differences from Windows.

    I'll be doing that tonight, but until then can anyone tell me if it would be a problem transferring files over a network when the other computers use Windows? i.e. will the difference in file systems matter?
  • Dirtbox 10 Jul 2008 15:15:05 77,461 posts
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    Get a blog get got.

    It will probably hate NTFS.

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  • LeoliansBro 10 Jul 2008 15:15:18 43,170 posts
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    OOTINI!

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • fletch273 10 Jul 2008 15:19:10 92 posts
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    What?
  • jellyhead 10 Jul 2008 15:19:52 24,350 posts
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    Nah, it should all be sorted out by Samba/Cifs.

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  • Sid-Nice 10 Jul 2008 15:22:25 15,852 posts
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    I installed Ubuntu when I got the dreaded blue screen of death; it didn't do much as I managed to save fuck all.

    NNID Sid-Nice

  • LeoliansBro 10 Jul 2008 15:28:24 43,170 posts
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    HOOP VALAVA!

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • FooAtari 10 Jul 2008 15:58:23 3,955 posts
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    fletch273 wrote:
    So I've just installed Ubuntu on an old PC of mine. I haven't had time to play around with it yet and get used to the differences from Windows.

    I'll be doing that tonight, but until then can anyone tell me if it would be a problem transferring files over a network when the other computers use Windows? i.e. will the difference in file systems matter?

    No, Samba will do that and is fairly easy to setup. Or just copy it all to a DVD/external drive whatever.

    I run Kubuntu, only ever turn on my Vista box for playing games.
  • fletch273 10 Jul 2008 16:02:07 92 posts
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    I'm planning on using the Ubuntu machine as a media server and storing everything on that. I suppose I could get the server edition but I think I'll be ok with the regular version. I'll have to check Samba out when I get in from work.
  • Aretak 10 Jul 2008 16:03:24 10,345 posts
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    I have Ubuntu as a dual-boot with XP on my system, but I rarely ever use it. There's little difference between it and Windows really, beyond the lack of my favourite programs. I can understand that perhaps hardcore geeky types might be able to get a lot more out of it than I do, but I doubt they'd be using Ubuntu in the first place, seeing as it's supposed to be a more n00b-friendly distro.
  • fletch273 10 Jul 2008 16:07:28 92 posts
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    One major difference: Ubuntu is free.

    I did have a copied version of windows XP but it wasn't very stable.
  • FooAtari 10 Jul 2008 19:41:58 3,955 posts
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    Aretak doesn't get it.

    Linux is free as in open and often free as in no cost. Windows is neither. And that's two of the main points. Specifically the Open Source part.

    Each to their own, and everyone should use what suits their needs best. But Ubuntu, like any Linux OS is powerful and therefor can be used by novices and power users a like.
  • fletch273 11 Jul 2008 16:24:33 92 posts
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    Novices beware, though. Linux is hard to grasp at first.
  • Aretak 11 Jul 2008 16:39:01 10,345 posts
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    FooAtari wrote:
    Aretak doesn't get it.

    Linux is free as in open and often free as in no cost. Windows is neither. And that's two of the main points. Specifically the Open Source part.
    Thanks for clearing that up, because I had absoloutely no idea about that before. It wasn't that it was totally irrelevant to the point I was making about my needs from an OS or anything. No no! I just didn't get it.
  • BartonFink 11 Jul 2008 16:58:00 34,853 posts
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    Will be installing kubuntu on Monday as a C++ dev machine.
    Any gotchas when installing?
  • BravoGolf Moderator 11 Jul 2008 16:58:46 12,740 posts
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  • BartonFink 11 Jul 2008 17:02:38 34,853 posts
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    ????
  • FooAtari 11 Jul 2008 20:19:47 3,955 posts
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    Aretak wrote:
    It wasn't that it was totally irrelevant to the point I was making about my needs from an OS or anything. No no! I just didn't get it.

    sorry, didn't mean to cause offense. See this bit I said though,

    Each to their own, and everyone should use what suits their needs best.

    You said there was little difference, but there is a huge difference. Your post also implied (maybe I read it wrong) that Linux/Ubuntu was pointless unless you were hardcore/geek, which isn't true.
  • FooAtari 11 Jul 2008 20:20:48 3,955 posts
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    BartonFink wrote:
    Will be installing kubuntu on Monday as a C++ dev machine.
    Any gotchas when installing?

    The main problem with Linux is wireless hardware. Other than that it's normally fairly painless.
  • FairgroundTown 11 Jul 2008 20:41:48 2,522 posts
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    Yer - be prepared to throw ya 'Free Software' principles out the window and get down with NDIS Wrapper if you want to be wireless. (Although NDISW is *much* less painful than it used to be - the early versions were total voodoo but now it "just works" as long as you are fairly careful about following the instructions on the back of the packet!)
  • fletch273 11 Jul 2008 20:51:21 92 posts
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    I've spent literally all day trying to get my wireless to work. I'm using Ndiswrapper and a WPN111 USB adapter to connect to a netgear WPN824. I've heard that that particular router just won't work no matter what I try though.
  • FairgroundTown 11 Jul 2008 20:55:29 2,522 posts
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    You probably have already... but have you tried switching to "802.11b Only" mode on the router?
  • warlockuk 11 Jul 2008 21:57:33 19,133 posts
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    New ubuntu shouldn't need to mess with ndiswrapper - it seems to take care of business quite well by itself.

    I'm a grumpy bastard.

  • BartonFink 11 Jul 2008 22:29:36 34,853 posts
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    FooAtari wrote:
    BartonFink wrote:
    Will be installing kubuntu on Monday as a C++ dev machine.
    Any gotchas when installing?

    The main problem with Linux is wireless hardware. Other than that it's normally fairly painless.
    Won't be messin with wireless thankfully it's a work machine.
  • fletch273 11 Jul 2008 23:01:39 92 posts
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    warlockuk wrote:
    New ubuntu shouldn't need to mess with ndiswrapper - it seems to take care of business quite well by itself.

    I'm pretty sure I needed ndiswrapper. I might just give up on the wireless and place my PC downstairs near the router, or bridge it with another router upstairs.
  • Mr-Brett 25 Aug 2008 22:03:28 12,723 posts
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    I'm conisdering installing Ubuntu as a dual-boot with XP but the site has me a bit worried with how much it suggests you backup EVERYTHING. Is it likely to destroy all my data and/or Windows?

    Portable view - Never forget.

  • FooAtari 26 Aug 2008 11:16:56 3,955 posts
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    I've never had a problem install on dual boot systems. But your partioning a hard drive, there is always potential for something to go wrong. Any important stuff like photos, documents, music, videos, whatever should be back up first.

    But you do that anyway, right? Just in case your hard drive failed or something.
  • Mr-Brett 26 Aug 2008 11:43:59 12,723 posts
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    Thanks Foo, yes I do backup all my important data anyway but loosing all you're programs and possibly Windows is never convient.

    I have another HDD in my PC though, could I install it to that without having to partion?

    Portable view - Never forget.

  • FooAtari 27 Aug 2008 10:07:12 3,955 posts
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  • FooAtari 27 Aug 2008 10:11:12 3,955 posts
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    Mr-Brett wrote:
    Thanks Foo, yes I do backup all my important data anyway but loosing all you're programs and possibly Windows is never convient.

    I have another HDD in my PC though, could I install it to that without having to partion?

    Could do. But you still have the small (imo) danger that something will go wrong when installing GRUB (allows you to select which OS you want at boot). There isn't a way to elimate all the risks, but you shouldn't have any problems as long as your careful. If your not sure at some point, don't go any further :)

    CrispyXUK wrote:
    So, I've installed this shizzle, all has gone well apart from graphics, which flicker like a bitch with anything 3d/opengl on my ATI, any ideas?

    If you are using Ubuntu have you installed the restricted drivers?
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