Iran moves the hour hand closer to midnight Page 22

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  • StarchildHypocrethes 9 Nov 2013 18:46:00 27,322 posts
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    I see things have taken a turn for the even more brainless in here.
  • mal 9 Nov 2013 19:27:07 23,559 posts
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    elmastero wrote:
    Alright.Enough of the faggot odyssey.


    Edited by mal at 19:27:19 09-11-2013

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  • Moot_Point 9 Nov 2013 19:47:59 4,708 posts
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    Rhaegyr wrote:
    moron wrote:

    Personnaly I have nothing against gays until they run under my window half naked in leather trousers talking something about pride (whatever it means), but a lot of people think different
    fucking LOL - surely a ban is long overdue for this idiot?
    Yeah! Call in a ban for anyone mentioning the words gay or homosexual. Bit sensitive today girls, eh?


    What is wrong with Iran having nuclear weapons anyway? Honestly, the world is soo hypocritical over this issue.

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  • mal 9 Nov 2013 19:52:00 23,559 posts
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    Um

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    I think that's enough out of moron. He can go be a moron on another site.

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  • Moot_Point 9 Nov 2013 19:57:26 4,708 posts
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    I'll reiterate, to get the thread back on track....

    Moot_Point wrote:
    What is wrong with Iran having nuclear weapons anyway? Honestly, the world is soo hypocritical over this issue.

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  • Bremenacht 9 Nov 2013 20:07:33 21,045 posts
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    Moot_Point wrote:
    I'll reiterate, to get the thread back on track....

    Moot_Point wrote:
    What is wrong with Iran having nuclear weapons anyway? Honestly, the world is soo hypocritical over this issue.
    Any chance of banning this casual, chuckling xenophobe too?
  • mal 9 Nov 2013 20:08:22 23,559 posts
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    Yes, the nuclear non-proliferation treaty is pretty hypocritical, but we can't stuff the scientific discoveries back in the bag, so it's currently the best strategy we have in stopping the world going to hell in a handcart. Remember the cold war? That times 10 = very not cool.

    Although Iran is a signatory to the treaty, it's been found that the stuff it's been doing with it's nuke research are contrary to that treaty.

    But yeah, the main reason particularly Israel and the US is afraid of Iran getting nukes is they're afraid of getting hit. Note at the same time that Israel probably has nukes, and has never signed the treaty.

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  • Moot_Point 9 Nov 2013 20:16:46 4,708 posts
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    So a country who wishes to show the world they are responsible enough to have nuclear weapons cannot do so because of the US and Israel? Wasn't the same said when India and Pakistan got them too?

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  • mal 9 Nov 2013 20:22:55 23,559 posts
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    India and Pakistan never signed up to the treaty, so it was no great surprise that they were developing nukes. There was various posturing over the years as I recall, but everyone knew it was a fait accompli. Whereas Iran signed the treaty to promise they wouldn't try to get nukes. That's the only power the West has over Iran, as much as they would like to lay down the law.

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  • Deleted user 9 November 2013 20:35:44
    Yes, the world is immensely hypocritical about nuclear weaponry. Really hitting the issues here, moot.

    No, I'd rather Iran didn't have them. I'd rather Israel didn't either, or indeed anyone at all. Israel is something of a special case, however, for good and ill.

    Edited by RedSparrows at 20:35:56 09-11-2013
  • Moot_Point 9 Nov 2013 21:33:53 4,708 posts
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    @RedSparrows I would love to live in the same idyllic world you propose that's WMD free, but the religious zealots around the world feel the world is a much better place with them. Much to our dismay.

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  • mal 9 Nov 2013 22:01:49 23,559 posts
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    It's not really a religious issue. Why bring that into it? It's 100% politics.

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  • Moot_Point 9 Nov 2013 22:05:00 4,708 posts
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    Christian, Catholic, Jewish and Muslim countries have them. No?

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  • mal 9 Nov 2013 22:11:17 23,559 posts
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    And so do many secular states (France, Germany, South Africa at least). So religion is irrelevant.

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  • Khanivor 9 Nov 2013 22:19:45 41,618 posts
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    In the case of Iran and Israel politics and religion are highly intermixed. Israel's stance has often been driven by the views of the extremists who have been required to form governments and Iran's politicians are essentially decided upon by its clergy.

    If it weren't for the religious angles and how they determine foreign policy then I don't think anyone could give a fuck whether or not Iran had some nukes.
  • mal 9 Nov 2013 22:28:31 23,559 posts
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    Hmm, IMO in the cases of Iran and Israel politics and religion are so intertwined that they're basically the same thing. Israel was formed because of religion, and the conflict between Israel and Iran was initially on a religious basis, but it's long since morphed into a political/diplomatic issue imo.

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  • Moot_Point 9 Nov 2013 22:34:44 4,708 posts
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    Well yes, most political systems have a religious undertone, thus my original point.

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  • mal 9 Nov 2013 22:39:43 23,559 posts
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    Hmm fair enough. Just strikes me that Iranian muslims support nuclear armament (if they do) because they're Iranian, not because they're muslim. And ditto jewish Israelis. And they may not be religious zealots, while they're almost certainly uber-nationalist.

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  • Moot_Point 9 Nov 2013 22:42:57 4,708 posts
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    I see all organised religion as zealotry. lol However diluted in politics it seems. :]

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  • Deleted user 9 November 2013 22:50:30
    ARGHHHH
  • bantamenace 9 Nov 2013 22:54:37 73 posts
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    Oh dear. You guys need to read. Then pause. Then think. Then pause again before posting. Have you read what you've said? Come on fellas
  • BillMurray 9 Nov 2013 23:00:18 8,103 posts
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    Fucking hell, glad I came in this thread.
  • mal 9 Nov 2013 23:09:22 23,559 posts
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    I think the forum's on the blob.

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  • Moot_Point 9 Nov 2013 23:19:07 4,708 posts
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    Nah, someone has a bloody nose. /wipes

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  • Khanivor 9 Nov 2013 23:56:11 41,618 posts
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    /curtains
  • Dirtbox 10 Nov 2013 00:25:30 80,592 posts
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    Now can someone change the thread title to 'Iran moves the hour hand closer to tea time'?

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  • Bremenacht 13 Apr 2015 22:43:39 21,045 posts
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    Bumping this is probably a terrible idea, but anyway - the hour hand has supposedly moved away from midnight. Good news! Nobel prizes all round! Detente is in the air!

    A programme to rollback the weaponising aspects of Iran's nuclear development is underway (or will be) and the thawing of commercial activity between Iran and the developed world can begin.

    So what's the first thing Russia seeks to deliver to Iran?

    An advanced anti-aircraft missile system.

    Cunts. Once installed, there'll be almost no military options left to disrupt (let alone stop) nuke development in Iran, and therefore nothing to stop them saying "Ha ha! Fuck you very much!" dumping all agreements and start talking again about wiping Israel off the map. Apart from goodwill, we can hope.
  • Physically_Insane 13 Apr 2015 22:45:53 9,963 posts
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    Hooray?
  • thedaveeyres 13 Apr 2015 22:51:34 11,958 posts
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    They all talk about destroying Israel because that's what they think their people want to hear, but it's more important to preserve Israel as a boogeyman than it is to actually follow through.


    Basically, Israel is Spike from Buffy The Vampire Slayer.

    Edited by thedaveeyres at 22:51:59 13-04-2015

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