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  • angeltreats 30 Jun 2008 19:14:31 2,486 posts
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    Jacobs website is teasing us

    I don't know why I care, I love my D80, but Rutty is hoping that the D300 price will drop after the D700 launch.
  • Deleted user 30 June 2008 19:30:01
    Ooh it's like waiting for a new Mac product to be announced, only far less likely that I'll buy one straight off the bat!
  • UncleLou Moderator 30 Jun 2008 19:31:12 34,674 posts
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    Yes, I mean I realise it's a lot less than a D3, but 2.800,- EUR is still not exactly in impulse buying range. :)
  • Deleted user 30 June 2008 19:35:14
    UncleLou wrote:
    2.800,- EUR
    What's this, some frickin' fancy pants Euro way of writing 2,800 Euros?
  • UncleLou Moderator 30 Jun 2008 19:36:28 34,674 posts
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    MrED209 wrote:
    UncleLou wrote:
    2.800,- EUR
    What's this, some frickin' fancy pants Euro way of writing 2,800 Euros?
    If it was 2,800 Euros, I'd buy one tomorrow. That's about 2 quid. :p
  • angeltreats 30 Jun 2008 19:36:49 2,486 posts
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    The Euro lot swap the commas and full stops.

    2.800,00 is how they write 2,800.00

    Having worked with money in Gran Canaria, I still catch myself doing it sometimes.
  • UncleLou Moderator 30 Jun 2008 19:39:05 34,674 posts
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    I am blind, too. The article says 2.600,-, not 2.800,-. Sorry.
  • Deleted user 30 June 2008 20:10:05
    Well there's another reason we shouldn't join the Euro, PAH!

    ;)

    Anyway, yeah, that's what, £2,055? Sheesh... All I want is the same glorious noise performance as the D3 on a D200 or equivalent, for under a thousand notes, and I'll be awesomely happy. How bloody long am I going to have to wait for that, then?
  • ruttyboy 30 Jun 2008 20:51:27 7,949 posts
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    MrED209 wrote:
    Well there's another reason we shouldn't join the Euro, PAH!

    ;)

    Anyway, yeah, that's what, £2,055? Sheesh... All I want is the same glorious noise performance as the D3 on a D200 or equivalent, for under a thousand notes, and I'll be awesomely happy. How bloody long am I going to have to wait for that, then?
    Doesn't the D300 go someway towards that goal? And as the lass says, I'm hoping that this will knock the price right down.
  • Deleted user 30 June 2008 21:10:32
    Dunno, not as far as I know. D3 sensor is the holy grail for noise at the moment.
  • ruttyboy 30 Jun 2008 22:15:09 7,949 posts
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    I think the D300 has all the new processing engines and shit that are in the D3 but without the awesome full frame sensor, so it's much better, but obviously not a D3.
  • Deleted user 30 June 2008 22:23:35
    Almost 100% positive it doesn't do noise like the D3 does.
  • ruttyboy 30 Jun 2008 22:24:55 7,949 posts
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    MrED209 wrote:
    Almost 100% positive it doesn't do noise like the D3 does.
    No, of course not :) But I read it's a bigger step up from the D200 than the 200 was from the 100 if you see what I mean.
  • Deleted user 30 June 2008 22:34:57
    I dunno, I didn't read anything that made me want to part with my D200. But sling that noise-reducing sensor in there and I'll be seriously tempted. As in, fuckitI'mgettingone.
  • angeltreats 1 Jul 2008 07:22:48 2,486 posts
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    D700 on Nikon website
  • bauhaus 1 Jul 2008 09:03:16 3,510 posts
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    D300 noise handling is almost as good as D3
  • kalel 1 Jul 2008 09:19:29 76,473 posts
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    Looks great. Haven't they slightly shot themselves in the foot by not doing the D3X first though? Who's going to buy a D3 now?
  • Deleted user 1 July 2008 10:46:10
    bauhaus wrote:
    D300 noise handling is almost as good as D3
    News to me, and indeed music to my ears. Any links to test shots at stupid ISOs that demonstrate this? Ideally D200, D300, D3?
  • bauhaus 1 Jul 2008 10:56:27 3,510 posts
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    MrED209 wrote:
    bauhaus wrote:
    D300 noise handling is almost as good as D3
    News to me, and indeed music to my ears. Any links to test shots at stupid ISOs that demonstrate this? Ideally D200, D300, D3?
    http://www.nikondigital.org/articles/nikon_high_iso_test/

    http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3/iso-1.htm

    http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=26755

    Mate of mine has the D300, the ISO is very impressive, bit softer at ISO6400, but nothing that cant be fixed in PP. He sent me some test shots that looked pretty damn impressive

    I`m looking to bin my D200 for the 300 at some stage, as the ISO on the 200 is starting to piss me off
  • kalel 1 Jul 2008 10:58:28 76,473 posts
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    Thing is it won’t be long now before the D300 sensor turns up in a cheaper body, ie the D90, so why not wait for that?
  • Deleted user 1 July 2008 11:18:13
    The D200 has a lot of very important (to me, anyway) layout differences to the 'consumer' bodies of the Dxx range, such as ISO, WB, QUAL etc on their own buttons, plus memory banks etc. If a Dxx body had those Dxxx features I might consider it, but I doubt it. I'd rather wait for a D300 to get a lot cheaper, because I feel the same about the D200 as bauhaus does.

    bauhaus, you bought a D3, though, right? I'd love one but it's only the noise factor I want to improve. There's nothing else I really need from the body that the D200 doesn't currently do very well.
  • Deleted user 1 July 2008 11:25:34
    Hmm, the D300 seems to lose a lot of the detail in it's noise reduction. I'd say the sensor in the D3 is considerably better than the D300, even though noise reduction alone is way better in the D300 than the D200.

    Dammit.
  • kalel 1 Jul 2008 11:26:33 76,473 posts
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    Actually the D80 has all of those on dedicated buttons.

    The D80 is more or less the D200 is a non aluminium body. I strongly suspect the D90 will be the equivalent to the D300.

    Of course the other consideration about getting a D3/D700 is to really get the benefit you’ll need an FX lens, which is also a bit of an outlay of cash. Anyone read anything about some new FX lenses to go with the release of the D700?
  • bauhaus 1 Jul 2008 11:29:50 3,510 posts
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    I tell you whats really annoying in the button layout dept. Reviewing images on the D3, the buttons moved so everytime i goto review a pic I hit Menu instead. Small but terribly annoying!

    The bulk (ie, grip and secondary controls) on the D3 are very, very nice. D200 feels a bit "toylike" now, much as the D70 did when I initially got the 200. A lot of other features are fantastic to have, but not essential. Though having 2 CF cards in situ soon becomes 2nd nature and something you pine for on the 200.

    I`m looking forward to getting the D300 though, ISO performance and cleaning sensor in D200 body seems like a perfect combo to me. Theu will be piss cheap soon I reckon too.
  • bauhaus 1 Jul 2008 11:32:38 3,510 posts
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    kalel wrote:

    Of course the other consideration about getting a D3/D700 is to really get the benefit you’ll need an FX lens, which is also a bit of an outlay of cash. Anyone read anything about some new FX lenses to go with the release of the D700?
    By some stroke of luck, all my lenses are FX (compatible), I suspect most people would have an FX lens, if they are in the market for a £2K+ body then they've probably spent a bit on lenses.

    Its nice using a 50mm prime as god intended!
  • bauhaus 1 Jul 2008 11:34:06 3,510 posts
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    MrED209 wrote:
    Hmm, the D300 seems to lose a lot of the detail in it's noise reduction. I'd say the sensor in the D3 is considerably better than the D300, even though noise reduction alone is way better in the D300 than the D200.

    Dammit.
    I think doing NR via PP is allways a better option, I turn it off in camera.

    Lightroom batch editing for white balance and NR is a 1 min job!
  • kalel 1 Jul 2008 11:34:56 76,473 posts
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    I’ve been looking at getting a D40 for my other half so that we can both have cameras when we go out, but if the D300 starts dropping significantly I might get one and pass on my D80 to her.

    How cheap do you reckon second hand D300s will be?
  • bauhaus 1 Jul 2008 11:36:21 3,510 posts
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    How much are they now??!?

    I'll start getting a sweaty wallet around the £5-600 point*



    *which means they'll drop to £400 the day after I buy one!
  • kalel 1 Jul 2008 11:42:21 76,473 posts
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    Cheapest you can get a new D300 body for is just over £900. Thing is the D700 is going to be about £1500, so it’s a totally different price bracket, and there may not be as many cut price D300s as we might think.
  • henro_ben 1 Jul 2008 12:02:33 2,119 posts
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    As I was peering through the dense fug of Nikon love present in this thread I suddenly thought how strange it was that WOPR hadn't posted a pro-Canon / anti-Nikon comment...

    Then I realised that he hasn't posted for ages & all his posts have, in fact, vanished - which would explain why the photo gallery thread went a bit strange the other week. Has he been G.I.'d?

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