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  • RyanDS 15 Feb 2011 08:44:05 7,637 posts
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    Leolian'sBro wrote:
    JMS can't write two lines without coming up with a clever-clever phrase he has to shoehorn in. Plus I don't think there's anyone else on the planet who thinks as much of himself. But he did the whole thing, he knew what he wanted and as a result it's about the most cohesively plotted sci-fi around. The universe feels fleshed out as well, not made up as you go along in the manner of Star Trek.

    And it's massively enhanced by G'Kar and Mollari.
    Notice the initials of the captains? That is some ego Mr Stratazinski has.

    Stick with the first season though, even with it's flaws, it really really pays off in the later seasons. JMS wrote EVERY SINGLE ONE of the scripts for seasons 2-5 (apart from one guest episode penned by Neil Gaiman) and it really shows. Throwaway lines in one episode will pay off 2 seasons later, it is incredibly tightly plotted and planned.

    I've just got to season 5 again myself. And I think I will stop. Byron and Lockley are two of the most insipid, boring characters I have ever seen, the show really really goes downhill fast. I may just skip to the sublime final episode. And I miss Marcus.
  • Razz 15 Feb 2011 17:13:56 57,923 posts
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    Chers guys! I'll stick with it, I just watched an episode with Chekov in it! :D Fucking Chekov sleeping with the enemy! Argh!

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  • thegamesthething 15 Feb 2011 18:35:44 1,079 posts
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    There are a few actors who appear in B5 and ST. Mainly bit parts, usually with rubber faces. Wiki has it that MJSillyname (amongst others) felt DS9 was rushed out to spike B5, but Gene Roddenberrys wife pops up so they all got along in the end.

    Ignore the theatricality, speecifying, bad sets, and Amiga effects. Feel the love. You'll get it.
  • Red-Moose 15 Feb 2011 19:01:31 5,331 posts
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    Leolian'sBro wrote:

    And it's massively enhanced by G'Kar and Mollari.
    Agreed 1000%, it's my first time watching it ever, and series 2 really was surprising how much actual characterisation is there. G'Kar especially so but really superb story arc through season 2.
  • Razz 15 Feb 2011 19:55:46 57,923 posts
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    FFS Can no one simply answer a question with a simple yes or no in this show? Every answer is a speech! :D

    "How was the toast?"

    "There was a time in my youth when I watched my grandfather die. His last words to me were "My gloves are to tight, I can no longer cook". I had always believed it to be the ramblings of an old, tired, dying man. I have never understood those words clearly until now."

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  • effinjamie 15 Feb 2011 19:56:34 797 posts
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    Bester as a character is fantastic, Plus I love both Mollari and G'kar they make the series

    Nothing to see here!

  • Ged42 15 Feb 2011 19:57:24 7,407 posts
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    Razz wrote:
    Chers guys! I'll stick with it, I just watched an episode with Chekov in it! :D Fucking Chekov sleeping with the enemy! Argh!
    Bester is a great character, a bit pantomime at times, but he has some great scenes later on.

    Red Moose wrote:
    Leolian'sBro wrote:

    And it's massively enhanced by G'Kar and Mollari.
    Agreed 1000%, it's my first time watching it ever, and series 2 really was surprising how much actual characterisation is there. G'Kar especially so but really superb story arc through season 2.
    The G'Kar/Mollari story arc is the best of the series, the two characters change so much from the first season, but in believable way.
  • Razz 18 Feb 2011 17:43:59 57,923 posts
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    Who the hell is this Sheridan fellow? Where is Sinclair? ;_;

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  • thelzdking 18 Feb 2011 17:45:31 3,388 posts
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    Sinclair'll be back, but only briefly. I don't like Sheridan; he's an idiot.
  • Razz 21 Feb 2011 09:07:25 57,923 posts
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    Wait hang on, Dr Franklin is black? o_O I thought he was Indian. Anyway sad to read that the actor that plays him died. :(

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  • THFourteen 21 Feb 2011 09:09:49 29,057 posts
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    OH I SEE

    theres a doctor and you automatically assume he's indian.

    I bet you thought the fellow who ran the market stall in S03E06 was from bangaladesh and all
  • Razz 21 Feb 2011 09:33:51 57,923 posts
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    Argh! Spoilers! I'm halfway through Season 2.

    Also, I don't know if you're taking the piss or not, it's Monday morning, I feel like shit and my humour detector is still warming up... Look, I've recently worked for the CQC on a Race Equality Review of 39 UK NHS trusts. Also, my grandfather happens to be Indian. So no, I didn't bloody think Dr Franklin was Indian because he was a doctor. I thought Franklin was Indian because, to me, he looks to have some Indian heritage

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  • THFourteen 21 Feb 2011 09:39:17 29,057 posts
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    :-D

    i was taking the piss
  • THFourteen 21 Feb 2011 09:39:39 29,057 posts
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    (ps i dont even know if theres a market trader in S03E07, i havent watched it for years)
  • thegamesthething 21 Feb 2011 10:42:51 1,079 posts
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    Also, G'Kar is a Narn (a type of alien). That isn't just a bad skin condition.
  • Razz 2 Mar 2011 03:52:23 57,923 posts
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    Why does a station of quarter million individuals only have one tiny hospital? o_O

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  • Razz 2 Mar 2011 04:32:50 57,923 posts
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    Scratch that, there is more than one med lab

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  • Razz 2 Mar 2011 14:21:55 57,923 posts
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    Holy shit, Just seen Majel Barrett in an episode! o_O WTF? She sold out

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  • Razz 4 Mar 2011 05:10:21 57,923 posts
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    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!! O_O

    Just got to he end of season 3.

    WOW! :o This show is Awesome

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  • Ginger 4 Mar 2011 06:50:32 6,748 posts
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    Welcome to the party :)

    London open taekwondo champion

  • thegamesthething 4 Mar 2011 08:30:55 1,079 posts
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    \o/
  • Red-Moose 18 Apr 2011 19:27:55 5,331 posts
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    Season 5 is a bit of a drag - it's taken me well over a month, possibly even 6 weeks to muster up the strength to watch it now. D'Lenn seems to have become quite irritating, mostly her "knowing smiles" - KNOWING WHAT, EH? She just seems to cocksure and confident since hooking up with the Lord Messiah (another story...) that the vibe has been lost IMO.

    I'll finish it to the end, as I did with Andromeda. At least they aren't all spending the entire series getting imaginationary drunk as in that.
  • Ginger 18 Apr 2011 20:16:55 6,748 posts
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    Red Moose wrote:
    I'll finish it to the end.
    I wouldn't bother - save yourself the time :)

    London open taekwondo champion

  • thegamesthething 18 Apr 2011 20:49:23 1,079 posts
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    Ginger wrote:
    Red Moose wrote:
    I'll finish it to the end.
    I wouldn't bother - save yourself the time :)
    I would, worth it for the last epiode alone.
  • localnotail 18 Apr 2011 20:56:11 21,449 posts
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    +1 You have to see it though now.

    Playing all the right notes— but not necessarily in the right order.

  • thelzdking 18 Apr 2011 21:31:13 3,388 posts
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    Londo Mollari makes the last half of season 5 awesome. First half is a bit shit though.
  • Razz 19 Apr 2011 00:11:17 57,923 posts
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    I still haven't bothered watching season 5

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  • thelzdking 28 May 2011 11:36:29 3,388 posts
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    Jeff Conaway, who played Zack Allen, has died after being in a coma for two weeks.
  • thegamesthething 28 May 2011 12:20:50 1,079 posts
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    :(

    Saw he was ill, since a fall last year. RIP.
  • Red-Moose 9 Jun 2011 17:58:22 5,331 posts
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    Finished this yesterday. As said above, Mollari makes it. Best scifi ever, better than BSG and even better than Andromeda.

    My god, the sense of loss is devastating :(. What a show. I think it's probably the best series ever made, not just scifi.
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