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  • Metalfish 14 May 2008 20:41:19 8,847 posts
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    Right,
    can any of you lot fill me in on the current state of GPUs right now? As I'm looking to upgrade my (quite good, actually) 7900GT at some point in the near future, as my amd 4800+ is literally the best chip availble for my now defunct 939 mobo and getting another gig of RAM to make it up to three probably isn't going to make a massive difference. Essentially, I reckon the most effective way of getting a bit more grunt is a new card.

    -Is this even worthwhile at this point in time?
    -Should I find another card to SLI instead of a new fancy one
    -Are my other components going to bottleneck it?

    Thanks in advance, guys.
  • Nasty 14 May 2008 20:51:01 4,749 posts
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    8800GT is your biggest bang for buck at the moment I reckon. Just over 100 will get you a card that you can run most things at max settings with and clock quite considerably.

    Your mobo and cpu will be the bottleneck but you can sort that for a reasonable price too if you're willing to get your hands dirty. This and this would be the way to go in my opinion to get yourself up to date without breaking the bank or going for the stupid kit that halves in worth as soon as you click Buy .
  • Dragul 14 May 2008 20:51:14 5,478 posts
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    There isn't much of a point really, wait a bit longer to see what the 9x00 series from nVidia brings besides 9600 and the obscened priced 9800
  • Whizzo 14 May 2008 20:51:19 43,220 posts
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    As you're talking about SLI I'm assuming you've got a PCI-E capable motherboard and if that's the case then something like this very inexpensive 8800GT will give you a sizeable performance boost over anything else you could do really.

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  • JediMasterMalik 14 May 2008 20:51:37 11,820 posts
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    8800GT, simple. No use in SLI.

    I used to have a 7900gt too, just today switched it out to an 8800GT. It's excellent.
  • Metalfish 14 May 2008 21:07:34 8,847 posts
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    I see. Thanks all. I hand some help building this machine, since it was my first, but (since realising PCs aren't made of spiderwebs and crystal) I reckon I could cobble together a new one from this 'un and some extra parts in the Summer.

    Cheers all.
  • Bloodloss 14 May 2008 21:31:02 4,499 posts
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    How about the 9800 GTX? Any good? Not talking about bang-for-buck.

    Also, is it still said that the next big thing graphics card wise is coming out around September? I'm going to get a new computer soon and want to know if I should wait 'til penryn, next big graphics cards, etc come out.
  • Kay 14 May 2008 22:15:57 17,936 posts
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    In your situation, Metalfish, the 8800GT is definitely the best bet as everyone said. They're very cheap at the moment and offer fantastic performance. Anything higher would probably be overkill with the CPU you have.

    As for new cards - ATI's 4870 is due at the end of this month. It should be far superior to any of nVidia's 9800 series. However, the 9900 series cards are due at the end of July, and... well, no-one knows for sure what they'll be like, not at the moment anyway.

    Bloodloss - 9800GTX really isn't worth it, you'll get practically the same performance from the far cheaper, smaller and cooler 8800GTS 512. The Penryn CPUs have been out for a while now. E8400 (dual) and Q9450 (quad) seem to be the most popular ones at the moment, in terms of price/performance ratio.

    K
  • Hunam 14 May 2008 22:27:41 20,674 posts
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    The 8800GT is a fine card, I bought one awhile go and it sings with all my games.
  • Bloodloss 14 May 2008 22:33:22 4,499 posts
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    Kay wrote:

    Bloodloss - 9800GTX really isn't worth it, you'll get practically the same performance from the far cheaper, smaller and cooler 8800GTS 512. The Penryn CPUs have been out for a while now. E8400 (dual) and Q9450 (quad) seem to be the most popular ones at the moment, in terms of price/performance ratio.

    So now would be a fine time to buy a new PC? I realise with PCs there's always something coming up around the corner, but is it worth waiting at all for anything really big?
  • Dragul 14 May 2008 22:35:57 5,478 posts
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    IS the 8800GTS worth the extra 35 euros compared with the 8800GT?
  • Whizzo 14 May 2008 22:37:59 43,220 posts
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    It's got a better cooler over the standard one and it's a tad quicker, I'm pretty happy with mine but I bought my non-famous branded one for about the price most 8800GT cards were going for at the time so it was a no brainer for me.

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  • Hunam 14 May 2008 22:41:13 20,674 posts
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    Dragul wrote:
    IS the 8800GTS worth the extra 35 euros compared with the 8800GT?

    Depends on the memory size.
  • Dragul 14 May 2008 22:54:34 5,478 posts
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    Hunam wrote:
    Dragul wrote:
    IS the 8800GTS worth the extra 35 euros compared with the 8800GT?

    Depends on the memory size.

    512 vs 512
  • Dragul 14 May 2008 22:54:44 5,478 posts
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  • Kay 14 May 2008 23:02:34 17,936 posts
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    Bloodloss wrote:
    So now would be a fine time to buy a new PC? I realise with PCs there's always something coming up around the corner, but is it worth waiting at all for anything really big?

    I would at least wait for the 4870 to come out, and, if you can, wait to see what nVidia have up their sleeve in regards to the 9900s. These two cards should offer the true next-generational leap that the 9 series should have done right from the start.

    Whizzo wrote:
    It's got a better cooler over the standard one and it's a tad quicker, I'm pretty happy with mine but I bought my non-famous branded one for about the price most 8800GT cards were going for at the time so it was a no brainer for me.

    Same here. It's got more stream processors (the full 128, compared to 112 on the 8800GT) and a slightly higher clock speed. If you're willing to pay extra, that's the one you should be going for. Some of the pre-OC'd ones are particularly good value at the moment too.

    K
  • Ravenger 15 May 2008 10:00:42 190 posts
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    8800GTS 512 is about 15% faster than a standard 8800GT, and has a much better cooler - it's a dual slot card.

    It overclocks very well too.

  • dr_swin 15 May 2008 10:05:38 4,903 posts
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    I would recommend my dual 8800gtx's in sli if they would stop crashing every 5 minutes! :(
  • chopsen 15 May 2008 10:13:34 16,127 posts
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    As it happens I'm building a new system. I've been out of touch for a few years. Good to hear 8800GTs are regarded highly, because that's what I bought.

    Is a intel quad core 6600 thingy and a 8800 gtx wotsit a good combination or have I ordered a load of crap? Again
  • dr_swin 15 May 2008 10:22:51 4,903 posts
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    I went for an asus p5ne motherboard with a quad core 6450 and two 8800 gtxs. The initial build was borked by a faulty motherboard so I returned that and got the much better formula striker II which is a nice bit of kit. Unfortunately when gaming I am subject to random crashes. I thought I may be overheating. I contacted Overclockers and they have advised me to manually set the memory speeds and voltages which we are doing tonight. My much more technically experienced friend though seems to think that won't work because the 8gb of ram is all the same type. If that doesn't work I'll have to try juts the one graphics card and may have to sell the other one.
  • johnlenham 15 May 2008 10:37:11 4,000 posts
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    So where are you lot buying these 8800GT/GTX blah blahs from?

    Kinda annoyed that my 7900GS is out of date and I bought it a year ago but birthdays coming up so might drop some cash on a new one depending on how AoC runs.
  • dr_swin 15 May 2008 10:44:02 4,903 posts
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    I got mine from overclockers.co.uk. They were brilliant for getting the goods to you quickly. They seem to be having a bit of bother accepting credit cards though(security issues). I don't know how they will be if the cards need to go back though) I guess that is the risk you take with an online store for cheaper prices.
  • johnlenham 15 May 2008 10:55:13 4,000 posts
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    Bah 140 all together for the one I liek the look of :(
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-059-GW&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1008

    Link probably wont work Xd
  • Lexx87 15 May 2008 10:56:17 20,863 posts
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    The thing is, i'd go for the 9800s just to futureproof the thing.

    Speak the truth hussy!

  • Lexx87 15 May 2008 11:06:05 20,863 posts
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    Bloodkult wrote:
    I've got a 9600GT. It's well sexy, quite small and runs cool.

    It came with $t1(k3r$

    You do mean Stalker right? :p You don't wanna trade that with me, for...erm. Something. Do ya?

    My 9800GT2 came with nothing! Super stupid expensive I know but, I wanted a GPU that I won't have to do anything with for 5 years.

    Speak the truth hussy!

  • chopsen 15 May 2008 11:09:24 16,127 posts
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    dr_swin wrote:
    hey seem to be having a bit of bother accepting credit cards though(security issues).

    :D I am having that EXACT problem with them at the moment.
  • dr_swin 15 May 2008 11:20:12 4,903 posts
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    It depends on how much the purchase is. If it is a significant amount in the eyes of the credit card company they refuse it. If you pay by debit card it gets around it but you lose a certain degree of protection that paying with credit card gives you. You can try contacting your credit card company and asking them to reduce the security temporarily. That worked the first time for me when I bought the monitor but not the second time due to incompetence on the part of the credit card company.
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