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  • El_MUERkO 12 Mar 2008 11:00:24 17,075 posts
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    Scans of the next month page of the new issue of PC Gamer (UK!) have been circling the the electric-internet gossip-tree. It looks this.

    Terminator armour or standard Mark VIII? It's so hard to tell with these modern hair-cuts.

    Other than that, we’re pretty much left with speculation until April 10th. What are the races? Will one finally be the Tyranids? Will it share more in common with Company of Heroes than trad Dawn of War? How will it compare to Starcraft 2? All will, clearly, be revealed but until then: Speculation Comment Thread Engine go!

    Starcraft 2 gets some competition! I really enjoyed Dawn of War even if the expansions milked it dry, I like the sound of a 40k game on a shiney new engine with Tyranids and Genestealers an maybe some titans :D
  • Deleted user 12 March 2008 11:01:07
    They're probably not done milking the old engine yet. DoW is rapidly becoming the Sims of the RTS world.
  • Stickman 12 Mar 2008 11:13:06 29,666 posts
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    Except nowhere near as good.

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  • Bloodloss 12 Mar 2008 11:23:21 4,499 posts
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    This link further provides clarification that is indeed a Warhammer related thing. That, and adding 'dawn' to the title... if it isn't Dawn of War 2, the person who named it that is in for a beating.

    Anyway yes, hopefully it will be good - have a decent, scripted campaign instead of a bunch of glorified skirmishes, start with about 6 races including the Tyranids, have some work put in and something cool like have you be able to choose which Chaos God to follow and thus have Nurgle, Khorne, Slaanesh, or Tzeentch specific units (Chaos undivided can get lost) and similar stuff for other races. It's entirely doable for the Essence engine, which has 'doctrines.'
  • jellyhead 12 Mar 2008 11:29:25 24,350 posts
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    oooohhhh, i like DoW and W40k so this is something to keep my eye on. Nice.

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  • GloatingSwine 12 Mar 2008 11:47:05 2,668 posts
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    My demands are simple.

    Tyranids & Titans.
  • jellyhead 12 Mar 2008 11:53:21 24,350 posts
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    Hopefully this is a new engine and we'll get Tyranids and the like. According to an interview i heard the old engine couldn't do justice to the Tyranids so they left them out.

    / prays to the Emperor for a new DoW engine

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  • Stickman 12 Mar 2008 11:55:50 29,666 posts
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    I just hope it's a bit more tactical than 'build up tech, tank rush'.

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  • StarchildHypocrethes 12 Mar 2008 11:57:54 26,144 posts
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    Stickman wrote:
    I just hope it's a bit more tactical than 'build up tech, tank rush'.
    Yeah, same here. Even if they just took they learnings they seem to have made in CoH it would be a much better game.
  • JediMasterMalik 28 Mar 2008 15:09:23 11,820 posts
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    EG story

    Scan 1
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    Looks damn good to me, can't wait for it.
  • FWB 28 Mar 2008 15:12:45 44,845 posts
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    This is being done by the CoH guys, right? It's going to piss all over SC2.
  • Dynamize 28 Mar 2008 15:16:31 1,672 posts
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    Looks lovely. I hope they introduce or tweak some of the CoH mechanics like cover-seeking, variable armour-thickness and junk for this. Rather than just being a graphical overhaul and a new race or two.
  • PiD 28 Mar 2008 15:17:37 3,566 posts
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    There's a teaser video up online somewhere, doesnt show much though..

    Vid

    Lots more info!
  • FWB 28 Mar 2008 15:22:09 44,845 posts
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    Co-op campaign! That's sold me.
  • Bloodloss 28 Mar 2008 15:24:49 4,499 posts
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    Fuck yeah. Shame it isn't going to be out around Christmas this year, but oh well.

    I definitely don't think it will be better than Starcraft II (and I'm not even a fan of the original Starcraft) but for micromanagement-incompetent people like myself it should be a great alternative.

    And co-op campaign sounds great. I just really, really hope it's a good, scripted one instead of "play skirmish X amount of times and receive 1 cutscene at the end, if you're lucky"
  • Dynamize 28 Mar 2008 15:32:45 1,672 posts
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    Yeah, sold.

    A few of those details in the link are...intriguing. Limited squads, squads being more individual and valuable, no cannon-fodder stuff. Good to hear they're going for some new ideas. Have to wait and see how such dynamics actually play out and feel.

    No mention of vehicles besides the Dreadnoughts and no air or sea units. Stomping sounds good.
    That bugged the hell out of me in DoW, especially after CoH - MASSIVE tanks, that can't just drive over a squad of Gretchin, and get stuck surrounded by infantry. Insult added to injury when the Imperial Guard acknowledgement voice says "Run 'em over!".
  • L_Franko Moderator 28 Mar 2008 15:33:42 9,694 posts
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    Nice. Been crossing my fingures for a second DoW ever since i finished the first.
    Thinking about it, i got a free night tonight. May fire the old boy back up again.
  • Stickman 28 Mar 2008 15:34:38 29,666 posts
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    It'll make you sad, don't do it.

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  • L_Franko Moderator 28 Mar 2008 15:36:34 9,694 posts
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    Not if i'm drunk!
  • Stickman 28 Mar 2008 15:38:09 29,666 posts
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    Actually, being drunk might soften up some of the edges in the cutscenes. Plus if your vision's blurry, you might not spontaneously start bleeding from the eyes.

    Be careful though.

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  • L_Franko Moderator 28 Mar 2008 15:40:11 9,694 posts
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    Words taken in. Thank you beer muse.
  • FWB 28 Mar 2008 15:42:54 44,845 posts
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    Bloodloss wrote:
    And co-op campaign sounds great. I just really, really hope it's a good, scripted one instead of "play skirmish X amount of times and receive 1 cutscene at the end, if you're lucky"

    The small squad control and reward system suggests that they're will be a pretty decent RPG element to it. Would be grand if that was continued in a co-op campaign with players specialising in certain fields. I'm thinking WiC mixed with CoH and Warcraft's hero features. Anyway, it's something different.

    I always prefer fighting alongside people than against them.
  • Stickman 28 Mar 2008 15:44:34 29,666 posts
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    No problem. Now, let's go find some strippers.

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  • L_Franko Moderator 28 Mar 2008 15:46:45 9,694 posts
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    Your words are like gold!
  • Bloodloss 28 Mar 2008 16:07:21 4,499 posts
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    The graphics still look fine. People still play Starcraft ffs...

    I hope they have only 4 races in - Space Marines, Orks, Chaos, Tyranids (maybe Eldar as well, but I hate them). And detail them, a lot. So for instance Chaos have a bunch of God-specific units from Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeentch and Slaanesh and you can choose at the start which God you want to follow, or be Chaos undivided and be able to use all but be heavily limited.

    The other option is to go nuts and have all the current races + a few more such as Tyranids. But I have a sneaking suspicion it'll be neither, and they'll not only have only a few races, but not detail them much either.

    Edit: I posted a very similar post earlier on. Oops.
  • FWB 28 Mar 2008 16:26:41 44,845 posts
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    They won't give you all the options at the start. That'd leave nothing to milk you with in an addon.
  • Bloodloss 30 Mar 2008 14:31:58 4,499 posts
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    Yeah but what's the point in making an entirely new game if it doesn't even improve on the previous one? There's a ridiculous amount of other things they could milk you for in the 40k universe. The recent expansion, Soulstorm, is an absolute joke with very little work put into it, but people will still gobble it up and give them money.
  • KARLOFF 1 Apr 2008 06:12:52 37 posts
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    Bloodloss wrote:
    Yeah but what's the point in making an entirely new game if it doesn't even improve on the previous one?

    To be fair, upgrading to the Essence Engine alone is by its very definition improvement.
  • absolutezero 2 Apr 2008 01:51:17 7,956 posts
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    Sticks an angry GW fan ignore him.

    Can't wait now. I love DoW.
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