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  • billythekid 25 May 2012 15:36:30 11,131 posts
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    Pigeon?
  • Stickman 25 May 2012 15:39:09 29,666 posts
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    Froch's going to get owned. Hard.

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  • billythekid 25 May 2012 15:41:15 11,131 posts
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    Iron Mike doesn't agree with you.
  • Deckard1 25 May 2012 16:00:42 27,981 posts
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    billythekid wrote:
    Pigeon?
    Carl Froch. He's a pigeon. I fucking hate his stupid smug pigeon face.
  • Deckard1 25 May 2012 16:01:40 27,981 posts
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    Carl Froch






    A pigeon

  • senso-ji 25 May 2012 16:16:56 5,902 posts
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    I'd say it's 50/50 each way. Both fighters throw awkward punches that can catch the other and cause serious damage. Although Froch has a better chin than Bute, Bute has the better work rate.
  • billythekid 27 May 2012 00:08:35 11,131 posts
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    SS1 just starting, Froch v Bute
  • LionheartDJH 27 May 2012 00:23:40 19,454 posts
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    Good first round, looks like Froch is prepared to take some chances.

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  • billythekid 27 May 2012 00:35:59 11,131 posts
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    Cracking fight!!
  • StarchildHypocrethes 27 May 2012 00:37:14 25,825 posts
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    I'm impressed Bute is still standing.
  • LionheartDJH 27 May 2012 00:37:43 19,454 posts
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    Didn't expect that, absolutely dominated. Well done Froch!

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  • StarchildHypocrethes 27 May 2012 00:38:16 25,825 posts
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    Great timing :D
  • Stickman 27 May 2012 00:39:00 29,666 posts
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    I stand corrected. That was different class from Froch.

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  • ilmaestro 27 May 2012 00:55:06 32,423 posts
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    Mwahaha, fuck the haters, Froch is a beast.

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  • macmurphy 27 May 2012 01:12:53 999 posts
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    Not sure why he's so underrated and unpopular. Fought everyone everywhere and never been dropped, Kessler was close so Ward's the only real black mark.

    He's got some heart, you have to give him that.

    Great fight.
  • ManicDrunkMonk 27 May 2012 02:09:01 512 posts
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    The only hater I see in here is Deckard who just got proved to be ignorant.

    Froch's a class act and has fought everyone worth anything in his division.
  • ilmaestro 27 May 2012 02:15:12 32,423 posts
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    Ward isn't even a "black mark" imo, he is top 10 p4p easy, less than no disgrace in being outclassed by him.

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  • Dougs 27 May 2012 07:04:43 67,668 posts
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    Sounded a great fight, will catch a rerun. Sadly 6am starts do me in so missed it.
  • Jono62 29 May 2012 10:27:30 14,119 posts
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/18247073

    :(
  • Trane 29 May 2012 17:23:40 4,052 posts
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    I see Froch is pretty grounded after his win:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/18252456

    What a tool.
  • ilmaestro 29 May 2012 20:26:17 32,423 posts
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    So you disagree with the points he makes? On what grounds? Froch's run of fights over the last couple of years is borderline unprecedented, at least in the modern era.

    The news about Paulie Williams is terrible, though. :(

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  • Trane 29 May 2012 22:47:01 4,052 posts
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    I disagree that he has eclipsed Joe Calzaghe, yeah.
  • ilmaestro 29 May 2012 23:31:48 32,423 posts
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    It's probably a stretch to take that literally, sure. The length of Joe's career and number of title defences is too much to say you could "eclipse" that, even by matching it - but he's not wrong in that he fought very few world class fighters at the top of their game (Kessler too early, Hopkins too late, for example), likely fewer than Froch will have fought by the end of next year at the very least.

    But if you look at other quotes from the article:

    "You've got to put me up there with the others, at least"

    "And while the 34-year-old Froch was keen to stress he did not necessarily think he was a better fighter than any of the above"

    it really seems like you're over-reacting.

    Given the relative lack of "hype per achievement" he has received in the mainstream press compared to that showered on Eubank/Benn/Calzaghe, I'm not sure why you begrudge him a bit of self-promotion.

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  • Trane 30 May 2012 09:53:38 4,052 posts
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    It was a great fight, and a great performance - no doubt. And I don't take umbrage with his self-promotion.

    But in his last two fights, he won one of them. Sure he is amongst the best of british in recent times, but he's also very condescending in that article.

    He claims that an unbeaten record is not important, then goes on to say:

    "Jeff Lacy couldn't cut it at world level and Joe Calzaghe exposed him for what he was. But Lucian Bute is a great fighter, was unbeaten in 30 fights with 24 knockouts."

    So if one fighter is unbeaten it's meaningless, unless you beat one yourself of course.

    Kessler Ward could have gone either way had it not been for cuts IMO, it was a very even fight, I still think either of them would beat Froch.

    From another article:

    "Fighting like that, with the focus I had and the way I felt physically, I'd beat anyone in my weight division, there's nobody who can touch me.
    "If you watch the fight against Ward, I was a totally different fighter, I had a bad night, but that kind of performance [against Bute] beats Andre Ward.
    "If I catch anyone on the chin like I caught Bute, it's game over, it's as simple as that. I'd beat anybody, including Andre Ward."

    Yeah OK Carl.
  • ilmaestro 10 Jun 2012 07:38:34 32,423 posts
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    Boxing is officially done - discuss? I'm not even sure I want to.

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  • Ka-blamo 10 Jun 2012 11:31:39 7,349 posts
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    The pacman lost last night
  • NotSoSlim 10 Jun 2012 16:24:00 3,124 posts
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    Ka-blamo wrote:
    The pacman lost last night
    Rephrase

    The Pacman was robbed last night
  • senso-ji 10 Jun 2012 16:28:05 5,902 posts
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    The baffling result last night can be summed up perfectly in this sentence from the BBC news article:

    Arum, who has contracts with both fighters, said: "I'm going to make a lot of money on the rematch, but this [decision] was outrageous."
  • Ka-blamo 10 Jun 2012 16:38:44 7,349 posts
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    It seems if it goes to points then the winner is whoever the judges like, regardless of what happened in the ring.

    One way around this is by knocking your opponent out before it gets that far :)
  • The-Bodybuilder 10 Jun 2012 18:30:51 14,196 posts
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    RIP Boxing.
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