Orange you dont know boxing as well as you think you do then then its that simple... go on with your self you condescending ass(so you can do your wtf faces all you like mate lol right back at ya o_O how old are we?)... what you smoking? All at the same level as Mormeck? Were they fudge, as I said that was a BIG step up for him(and to argue against that is going against the experts so just shut up) he really hasnt been at the top level that long stop overhyping his opponents he's a good boxer but lets not try and pretend he's done more than he really has yet(the Gurov match was a bit shit... you'd have said he was shot if you werent up Hayes ass). He's got a long way to go himself yet, Im not the one hyping fighters up here its you. Hayes trainer is by far the most punchable you seen the guy? He's not had half the experience he's young and thinks he knows more than he really does. What a little douche he sounds and looks like "yeah man they fell for it... it was all planned lol".
Enzo Calzaghe's "great" training is merely to get his fighters fit
"You are taking the piss right?" No really is this a joke?
Enzo Calzaghe IS one of the best trainers in the world he's already acheived thats not hype its giving credit where credit is due... Joes last great fight was Kessler what fight were you watching? Right so other people(experts not part time watchers who get hyped by reading papers and talking down the pub) penned that fight as a contender for fight of the year(although Vasquez vs Marquez won alot of votes because it was a close battle/war which people prefer... Kessler vs Calzaghe did win a few though), Joe rightfully sees that as one of his best performances(are you mad or what? there was no bigger fight he could have made, how can you even begin to down play it now? give him props or atleast dont mention it otherwise it makes you sound clueless). The fact that Kessler trained his hardest for that match and was the same Kessler as always just tells you Joe made him look easy. Haye is nowhere near that level dont make me laugh hasnt got half the handspeed or technical brilliance Joe has shown in the ring recently.
Theres really no point arguing though orange but you could do with sorting your attitude out and try discussing things without opening it with an insult whilest posting more ignorrant one sided opinions.
I never said I didnt rate Haye he's proved his worth with Mormeck and now this... before then? Dont talk crap he started out good with a good amateur background and a good start to his pro career looking promising but then didnt fight nearly enough which is why its taken so long to get the recognition. Good luck to him at heavyweight though, Alexander Povetkin Vs David Haye might be good to see, I dont know if Haye would beable to handle that kind of power though, take a look at him.
edit: I can see why there is no boxing group here because everybody thinks they know better, some even repeating lines a boxer would say in a press conference as if it were the truth "you aint fought no one, just an overrated bum" ect... ah well never mind the group then, if this is an indication of how it would be its pretty darn pointless isnt it?