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  • Dr-Strangelove 7 Feb 2008 09:44:04 2,130 posts
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    Can anybody recommend a MacBook Pro for video editing (just the laptop, no external screen)?

    I'm just interested to see if anybody has any positive/negative thoughts about this.

    I'm going to wait for the next MacBook Pro upgrade before I purchase one (I hope they keep the option of non glossy screens) but after having my Dual CPU G5 Tower (great though it still is) I vowed the next machine I'd get would be a laptop so that I can edit whenever and wherever I like rather than being stuck in the home office. I'm not into professional editing, just using ilife to make videos for family and friends.
  • deem 7 Feb 2008 09:47:03 31,641 posts
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    Dr Strangelove wrote:
    Can anybody recommend a MacBook Pro for video editing (just the laptop, no external screen)?

    I'm just interested to see if anybody has any positive/negative thoughts about this.

    I'm going to wait for the next MacBook Pro upgrade before I purchase one (I hope they keep the option of non glossy screens) but after having my Dual CPU G5 Tower (great though it still is) I vowed the next machine I'd get would be a laptop so that I can edit whenever and wherever I like rather than being stuck in the home office. I'm not into professional editing, just using ilife to make videos for family and friends.

    heh, MacBook Pro is Pro level video editing - you won't have any problems doing vids for your family.

    :)
  • nickthegun 7 Feb 2008 09:50:01 59,857 posts
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    My wife edits professionally. She uses avid all day and comes home to the MBP with Final Cut Pro and barely misses a beat.

    If all you are going to use is iMovie (which will be more than good enough for you, by the sounds of it) the MBP just eats it.

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  • JonFE 7 Feb 2008 09:51:36 1,447 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    I will second deems 'The 17" MBP screen is amazing'.

    If you take the super resolution-o-tron upgrade (with a matte screen) its just jaw dropping.

    As, ive said before, a little too jaw dropping. Its weird to be able to watch 1080p stuff on it and still think it looks a little blurry. And DVDs look like 3rd generation VHS copies.

    It really has to be seen to be believed, to be fair. The mrs uses it primarily for video editing and you get so much screen real estate she doesnt need a second screen so much.

    Now, you've had me confused (no kudos for that though, it's easily done :). Do you actually recommend this or not? "Jaw dropping" and "blurry", "VHS copies" don't bond together. Are you saying that there is no up scaler for DVD/standard definition playback?
  • Shinji 7 Feb 2008 10:03:02 5,903 posts
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    It's a computer screen, not a HDTV - it's not designed to handle standard definition pictures. His point was that the screen is so sharp and crisp (it's aimed mostly at designers and people working with images professionally) that lower quality sources tend to look like arse on it.

    Whether you see that as a good or a bad thing is entirely down to how you use the system :)
  • nickthegun 7 Feb 2008 10:15:44 59,857 posts
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    Well, yeah, exactly.

    To get DVDs looking how you are used to them, you need to have them in a small window in the corner. Which is where the video editing thing comes in, kinda, because you can quite happily monitor your in, out and source on it.

    Its an absolutely fabulous screen, but, as shinji says, its so fabulous it really isnt kind to a lot of things.

    But, yeah, on the flipside, the photos I take on my 20d just look eye wateringly sexy.

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  • Dr-Strangelove 7 Feb 2008 11:19:09 2,130 posts
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    Thanks nickthegun and Deem for your answers.

    Just gotta wait for the update now before I make my purchase.
  • Lukus 7 Feb 2008 11:53:54 19,088 posts
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    Good thread, me ;) Thanks for all the replies and suggestions so far everyone. Very helpful, though a little confusing at the same time as I can see the advantages of each machine..

    Regarding Macbooks; the glossy screen option- what actual effect does that have? There's no difference in price on the website for glossy or non glossy.

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  • Lukus 7 Feb 2008 11:58:26 19,088 posts
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    Good to know!

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  • deem 7 Feb 2008 11:59:41 31,641 posts
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    In the right light, they are gorgeous though - and make blacks black, and other colours lovely and rich.

    The right light is very fucking hard to come by though.
  • mouse Moderator 7 Feb 2008 12:23:26 10,312 posts
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    I quite like the glossy screens myself. /shrugs
  • nickthegun 7 Feb 2008 12:25:53 59,857 posts
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    Its true. I spend half my summers listening to people say 'THE SUN IS REFLECTING INTO MY EYES I DEMAND YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT', using that as a justification to replace the trusty old CRTs with TFTs and now, here I am buying people fucking iMacs.

    I predict severe retinal burn this summer.

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  • JonFE 7 Feb 2008 12:56:46 1,447 posts
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    Thanks for clearing that up, all three of you :)

    Now, if Apple could be so kind to upgrade (or at least give us a choice on) the graphics card on the 24'' iMac to something like a G92 nVidia and I'd be willing to part with my hard (yeah, right!) earned...
  • eviltobz 7 Feb 2008 15:10:41 2,511 posts
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    re plugging in to an hdtv.

    i had my g5 power mac plugged into my hdtv using a dvi to hdmi converter which was fine except that the OS will not support the native resolution of the panel as standard. it'll happily through out normal monitor resolutions or proper hd resolutions, but i wanted to drive the panel at native res so it didn't get all artifacty. to do this i needed a little shareware app called switch res x that let me define custom resolutions. (in fact, even with that it wasn't quite perfect but was quite acceptable)
  • mouse Moderator 7 Feb 2008 15:14:05 10,312 posts
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    eviltobz wrote:
    to do this i needed a little shareware app called switch res x that let me define custom resolutions. (in fact, even with that it wasn't quite perfect but was quite acceptable)

    Thank you! I've been looking for an app like this for ages to fix overscanned output on my telly. DisplayconfigX was absolutely impenetrable.
  • The_Aardvark 7 Feb 2008 15:35:02 3,063 posts
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    I have a 17 inch MBP and watch TV full screen all the time. Provided you're not sat as close to screen as you would if you were working on it you would be fine.

    I don't think that anyone answered your question regarding bootcamp. With bootcamp, I can just boot my machine into a version of windows XP that runs exactly as it would on a native windows PC.

    I've not tried anything more sophisticated than Halflife 2 but that looks lovely with all the options cranked up to max.
  • JonFE 7 Feb 2008 16:42:12 1,447 posts
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    CrispyXUK wrote:
    JonFE wrote:
    Thanks for clearing that up, all three of you :)

    Now, if Apple could be so kind to upgrade (or at least give us a choice on) the graphics card on the 24'' iMac to something like a G92 nVidia and I'd be willing to part with my hard (yeah, right!) earned...
    Not really much point though is there? It'd be out of date 8 months down the line.

    You're probably right. However, what I'm after is a computer alternative to dual boot in Leopard and XP, offering decent 3D performance out of the box (especially under DirectX) and, if benchmarks are to be trusted, nVidia is better than the ATI (which seems to lag from the moment it was released). Of course it will be surpassed in 8 months time, but if it's decent enough in the beginning, it would suit me for a couple of years more.

    What bothers me is that Apple offers nVidia solutions to other computer products like the MacBook or Mac Pro and only the aluminum iMac is left out in the cold.

    To put it in another way: if Apple had gone to an nVidia for the new iMac (at least as an option), I would have got that instantly. As it stands, I'm sitting on a fence (and it hurts, if you know what I mean :).
  • boo 7 Feb 2008 17:10:11 11,778 posts
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    /is about to order 2.2Ghz Macbook

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  • quantumsheep 7 Feb 2008 17:41:54 3,127 posts
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    boo wrote:
    /is about to order 2.2Ghz Macbook

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  • HarryB 7 Feb 2008 18:14:44 6,191 posts
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    I'm installing osx on a mate's eeepc soon.. I really wish the macbook air was that kinda size!
    /doubts osx on eeepc
  • Lukus 9 Feb 2008 21:17:46 19,088 posts
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    Just wondered, would it be possible to use an iMac as a display for the 360?

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  • spindizzy 9 Feb 2008 21:20:56 6,504 posts
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    Lukus wrote:
    Just wondered, would it be possible to use an iMac as a display for the 360?

    Not easily no - there's no video in. And even if you buy one of the 'TV tuner' thingies (even the ones that claim they work with e.g. the 360) there's noticable lag IIRC.

    Frankly I'd make damn sure you tried it in a shop before buying anything.
  • Telepathic.Geometry 9 Feb 2008 21:34:08 11,319 posts
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    Similar question here. Would it be possible to somehow put my Wii through my Mac-Mini, or directly into the 23" Apple Monitor I shall have in my possession in about two months?

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  • Lukus 9 Feb 2008 22:35:29 19,088 posts
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    spindizzy wrote:
    Lukus wrote:
    Just wondered, would it be possible to use an iMac as a display for the 360?

    Not easily no - there's no video in. And even if you buy one of the 'TV tuner' thingies (even the ones that claim they work with e.g. the 360) there's noticable lag IIRC.

    Frankly I'd make damn sure you tried it in a shop before buying anything.
    Thanks!

    :(

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  • Deleted user 9 February 2008 23:00:09
    Lukus wrote:
    spindizzy wrote:
    Lukus wrote:
    Just wondered, would it be possible to use an iMac as a display for the 360?

    Not easily no - there's no video in. And even if you buy one of the 'TV tuner' thingies (even the ones that claim they work with e.g. the 360) there's noticable lag IIRC.

    Frankly I'd make damn sure you tried it in a shop before buying anything.
    Thanks!

    :(
    19" LCD screens now much MUCH less than 200 by the way.
  • Telepathic.Geometry 9 Feb 2008 23:06:44 11,319 posts
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    Telepathic.Geometry wrote: Similar question here. Would it be possible to somehow put my Wii through my Mac-Mini, or directly into the 23" Apple Monitor I shall have in my possession in about two months?
    CrispyXUK wrote: No, get a Dell or Gateway 24" monitor.
    Any particular reason apart from (I suppose) cost? Are those screens compatible with scart/component cables or something?

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  • deem 9 Feb 2008 23:45:30 31,641 posts
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    I have the 24" Dell, and it's pretty good.

    Has LOADS of inputs - VGA, Dvi, component, composite, S-Video...

    Picture in picture, 1:1 mapping.

    The only thing it lacks for gaming is the punch of a normal LCD TV.

    Definitely much preferable to the Apple.
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