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  • LeoliansBro 31 Mar 2014 16:09:24 43,818 posts
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    I'm a barrel of contradictions on this. I don't partake, I don't support legalisation but I probably would partake if it was legalised.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • rudedudejude 31 Mar 2014 16:10:29 2,163 posts
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    Results from Colorado are already looking like they've raised 300mill in tax from January alone. Something like that anyway. Times that by 12, and once we have some serious results, I have a feeling our UK policies will soon be getting reviewed.

    With u-r-gay following suit and a few more I have absolutely no doubt that it'll be legal in the UK to follow, once we have the evidence and results from their adventures.
  • LeoliansBro 31 Mar 2014 16:14:15 43,818 posts
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    Netherlands have been cheerfully earning tax revenues from it for donkey's and we've not budged.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • lucky_jim 31 Mar 2014 16:15:39 5,285 posts
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    Ah, I'm so lucky to live somewhere where it's effectively legal. Technically it's a civil misdemeanour, of the same grade as a parking ticket, but in reality it's more lax than even that. The fact it's effectively legal to grow up to five plants means the whole crime angle to weed just isn't really a thing here. And last time I checked, society hadn't come tumbling down as a result. Hang on, I'll just check again - nope, still there.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_liberalization#Czech_Republic

    I wouldn't be so optimistic of the UK authorities seeing sense. The Daily Mail's influence is far too deep for that to happen.

    Edited by lucky_jim at 16:16:29 31-03-2014
  • rudedudejude 31 Mar 2014 16:19:11 2,163 posts
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    @LeoliansBro Yeh, that's like totally different situation entirely. I don't think even the Netherlands would dare move to full national decrim / legal status without a few US states and others trying it out first and proving the case. It's got to be implemented fully really or not at all, and the US are doing it by the book, and very effectively too.
  • Mr_Sleep 31 Mar 2014 16:25:13 16,935 posts
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    lucky_jim wrote:
    I wouldn't be so optimistic of the UK authorities seeing sense. The Daily Mail's influence is far too deep for that to happen.
    The primary arguments I hear against legalisation are the slippery slope argument and mental health problems. The first argument is a non-starter as the slippery slope argument around weed is actually the opposite to what is argued, legalisation would mean it would not need to be accessed via drug dealers so exposure to other things wouldn't be a factor.

    As for the mental health problems, it is a real problem but legalisation isn't going to cause any more problems than there are already, prohibition doesn't work and if anything the current situation is making it worse.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • Mr_Sleep 31 Mar 2014 16:25:13 16,935 posts
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    lucky_jim wrote:
    I wouldn't be so optimistic of the UK authorities seeing sense. The Daily Mail's influence is far too deep for that to happen.
    The primary arguments I hear against legalisation are the slippery slope argument and mental health problems. The first argument is a non-starter as the slippery slope argument around weed is actually the opposite to what is argued, legalisation would mean it would not need to be accessed via drug dealers so exposure to other things wouldn't be a factor.

    As for the mental health problems, it is a real problem but legalisation isn't going to cause any more problems than there are already, prohibition doesn't work and if anything the current situation is making it worse.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • Physically_Insane 31 Mar 2014 16:29:02 8,765 posts
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    Surely alcohol can lead to mental health problems (among other things) too? If the cunts are happy with alcohol, then they better be happy with marijuana.
  • HarryPalmer 31 Mar 2014 16:32:06 3,253 posts
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    No one use SR? Next day delivery FTW.
  • LeoliansBro 31 Mar 2014 16:42:03 43,818 posts
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    rudedudejude wrote:
    @LeoliansBro Yeh, that's like totally different situation entirely.
    Well, that's just like, your opinion man :)

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Mr_Sleep 31 Mar 2014 16:45:46 16,935 posts
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    My stupid mouse is fucked and double clicks. Stupid thing.

    Edited by Mr_Sleep at 16:46:16 31-03-2014

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • Mr_Sleep 31 Mar 2014 16:45:46 16,935 posts
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    Physically_Insane wrote:
    Surely alcohol can lead to mental health problems (among other things) too? If the cunts are happy with alcohol, then they better be happy with marijuana.
    It can, however alcohol is a lot more tied into tradition and is more mainstream than weed will ever be. Also, it is an argument that doesn't tackle the core issues, it is pointing out hypocrisy but it doesn't go to the core of the issue which is more to do with individual freedoms and the states' right to criminalise such a vast swathe of the population. Add to that the criminality of the dealers and the problems that come from that and you have a stronger argument. There is also the mental health treatment issue which anecdotally is a lot easier to deal with if it isn't an illegal substance issue.

    The alcohol argument never goes anywhere and I have heard it brought up a lot in these discussions and I wish the people who argue these issues tried their best to avoid it as people on the other side will never see the rationale and don't care about the hypocrisy.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • BillMurray 31 Mar 2014 16:46:03 7,701 posts
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    Chavvy scrotes are all we get here, as far as I know anyway. When my mate gets his I usually just ask him to get me some. I've heard enough sketchy stories from friends to not have much face to face contact with drug dealers. I'm usually the one sat on a curb waiting for my friends to finish their sketchy deals.
  • Razz 31 Mar 2014 17:01:19 61,073 posts
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    I've recently started to equate getting stoned to getting drunk. Simply put if you're drunk, you've had too much alcohol, if you're stoned you've had too much weed. So like drinking, it's not something you want to do everyday as it will take it's toll on you physically and mentally.

    It's helped me cut down my weed intake substantially. A Scrooge-esque light sprinkle in a small paper J before bed is all I have now and the occasional blowout with friends, but never alone.

    I'm also on the vape bandwagon. I backed a indiegogo vape called the Grasshopper. Once that comes I'll be smoke free. For now I've got myself an e-cig to wean myself off the tobacco, my nightly stingy spliff is the only time I partake.

    Edited by Razz at 17:09:10 31-03-2014

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  • Fake_Blood 31 Mar 2014 17:08:16 4,169 posts
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    I like smoking and then playing a game like Resogun.
    Somehow, if I don't think about it, I play better. It's like putting your brain in autopilot.
  • smoggo 31 Mar 2014 17:12:24 1,099 posts
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    I usually just create and distribute extreme pornography when a little mashed but if I'm proper stoned i go to the dark side and illegally download a film.
  • thelzdking 31 Mar 2014 17:38:05 4,367 posts
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    Harold and Kumar?
  • BillMurray 31 Mar 2014 17:53:52 7,701 posts
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    Can't believe cannabis is still a class B drug.
  • twelveways 31 Mar 2014 18:07:21 3,977 posts
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    @LeoliansBro
    Have you ever partaken (partook?)?

    Why is it being illegal/legal the thing that you let decide whether you do it or not? I'm not judging, just genuinely interested. I understand some people would be worried about their jobs/status etc.
  • CharlieStCloud 31 Mar 2014 18:10:04 5,202 posts
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    @BillMurray

    You think it should be of a higher or lower class?

    ... I don't smoke me because Earl Grey is a drug in itself.

    Now I know how Captain Picard feels.

  • christourlord 31 Mar 2014 18:16:13 2,498 posts
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    HarryPalmer wrote:
    No one use SR? Next day delivery FTW.
    Sounds dodgy as fuck to me. Have you had many good experiences with it?
  • DiddlerDo 31 Mar 2014 18:26:16 1,471 posts
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    Quick scan of the page and my stance is identical to Lbs. Probably for different reasons though. I would never smoke it as it looks rank, smells rank and makes you look like a mink. Just like normal cigarette smoking. But I would eat a hash brownie or something (and not just because I'm a fatty) because I am curious. I don't particularly want it to be legalised but I don't agree with the hypocrisy in alcohol being legalised.
  • BillMurray 31 Mar 2014 18:39:01 7,701 posts
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    @CharlieStCloud I think it should be lower really.

    Earl Grey goes quite well a smoke!
  • thelzdking 31 Mar 2014 18:40:13 4,367 posts
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    christourlord wrote:
    HarryPalmer wrote:
    No one use SR? Next day delivery FTW.
    Sounds dodgy as fuck to me. Have you had many good experiences with it?
    I've never used it, but one of my friends has bought loads of stuff off there and says he's never had any problems. He did say that sometimes it took ages to arrive, though.
  • ecureuil 31 Mar 2014 18:47:51 76,729 posts
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    Fake_Blood wrote:
    I like smoking and then playing a game like Resogun.
    Somehow, if I don't think about it, I play better. It's like putting your brain in autopilot.
    It's better with all games IMO. A great accompaniment. One of the traits of the stuff is that it helps you focus really intently on one thing, which is amazing for getting thoroughly engrossed in a game world. Trippy games are perfect for it of course, but stuff like The Last of Us and GTA even better when high. Like Razz says, you have to do it right and not smoke so much you end up comatose. It's a drug, but a safe one and an extremely enjoyable one if you consume with care.
  • thelzdking 31 Mar 2014 18:55:23 4,367 posts
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    I used to like playing Galactic Civilizations after a smoke.
  • DiddlerDo 31 Mar 2014 18:58:20 1,471 posts
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    Is Razz really being used as guidance for not doing too much?!
  • skuzzbag 31 Mar 2014 19:03:40 5,638 posts
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    I smoked quite a lot for 7 years (ended up being every day even during work hours) and my short term memory has taken a battering.

    It makes me feel sick now so was easy to stay on the wagon.
  • Razz 31 Mar 2014 19:05:13 61,073 posts
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    @DiddlerDo

    edit: I totally misread your comment

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  • ecureuil 31 Mar 2014 23:25:10 76,729 posts
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    DiddlerDo wrote:
    Is Razz really being used as guidance for not doing too much?!
    A lot of people have been heavy smokers and then found a balance that was healthier. I've been there myself.
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