Looking for turn based war/strategy games

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  • Phreedh 15 Jan 2008 10:10:58 683 posts
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    Could anyone point me in a general direction when it comes to rekindling a flame of old? I used to love playing turn based strategy games on my C64 as a kid and dabbled a bit with a few WW2 conflict simulators on my PC when studying at the uni.

    Not looking for multiplayer games, strictly single player business. Something akin to boardgames like Advanced Squad Leader etc...

    Graphics are not important. As long as it's not real time and multiplayer I'm happy. WW2 or cold war alternate reality would be great settings!

    Any tips much appreciated!
  • LeoliansBro 15 Jan 2008 10:18:31 43,217 posts
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    UFO: Enemy Unknown. Your search is over.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • RMXtreme 15 Jan 2008 10:18:44 3,145 posts
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    Hearts of Iron II
  • Phreedh 15 Jan 2008 10:27:02 683 posts
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    Leolian'sBro wrote:
    UFO: Enemy Unknown. Your search is over.
    That's mainly tactical though, not looking for that. It's a great game though, and I played it to bits.

    RMXtreme seems to be spot on though. Hearts of Iron looks like the mutts nuts! Cheers mate!

    To give a further idea of what I've liked in the past, I loved Panzer General but would like something a bit heavier and more involving.

    Anyone tried Commander - Europe at war or the games from Strategic Studies Group?
  • jellyhead 15 Jan 2008 10:28:10 24,350 posts
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    A couple of Indie games that are supposed to be excellent:
    Naked War( Bugger, just reread the post and this is play by email sorry ).
    Brass Hats.

    The UFO series and especially the original Gollop developed X-Com games are well worth a look.
    Laser Squad Nemesis wiki.
    Laser Squad Nemesis homepage, again it's play by email as i misread your first post. DOH!

    I'll ask my wargame mad mates.

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  • marilena 15 Jan 2008 10:29:57 8,198 posts
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    Make sure you get Hearts of Iron II, as it's much better than the first.

    I'll think about it a bot more, but my first recommendation would be Battle for Wesnoth, a free but great turn based strategy game in the mold of Advance Wars. It's fantasy, but you should give it a try.
  • Whizzo 15 Jan 2008 10:30:19 43,033 posts
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    If you've not had a look at Combat Mission I suggest a demo download as it sounds right up your street.

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  • mingster 15 Jan 2008 10:35:16 3,270 posts
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    Armegeddon Empires... search over.

    A review is on Eurogamer
  • LeoliansBro 15 Jan 2008 10:44:58 43,217 posts
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    Heh, this thread got me thinking about Mighty Empires, the old GW board game. And lo and behold, it's been re-released...

    Albeit it looks like watered down shite.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Tiger_Walts 15 Jan 2008 10:46:33 16,579 posts
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    Whizzo wrote:
    If you've not had a look at Combat Mission I suggest a demo download as it sounds right up your street.

    I second this.

    The last time I played I did the Paris mission. House to house fighting with tanks in the street. Great stuff.

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  • TechnoHippy 15 Jan 2008 10:47:54 14,698 posts
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    Panzer General is one of my favorite old school wargames, have to run it through DosBox these days though.

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  • jellyhead 15 Jan 2008 10:58:12 24,350 posts
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    Just received this reply from one of my friends.

    The best games are Close Combat series (3 being the best)
    ebay link.

    Also Talonsoft East/West front is a huge game I think he'll like.
    You can go from Platoon to Army. It's huge...!!
    http://www.matrixgames.com/games/game.asp?gid=318

    Matrix Games do alot of WW" games.
    http://www.matrixgames.com/games/?p=19

    The best of the lot is Steel Panthers.
    http://www.matrixgames.com/games/game.asp?gid=297

    Hope it helps, there may be more on the way. I imagine these may be the Hex-grid type games but check them out anyway in case they aren't. :)

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  • Sorbicol 15 Jan 2008 11:01:01 591 posts
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    You could give Silent Storm a try if you can find it. However you might find it more of a X-COM style tactical game rather than what you are looking for.

    Otherwise I'll add my name to the Laser Quad Nemesis reccommendations.
  • bauhaus 15 Jan 2008 11:14:11 3,511 posts
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    RMXtreme wrote:
    Hearts of Iron II

    Teh bestest wwii game evah!!
  • LeoliansBro 15 Jan 2008 11:17:44 43,217 posts
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    One of the Harpoon games?

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Phreedh 15 Jan 2008 11:17:47 683 posts
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    Leolian'sBro, the new Mighty Empires is just an add-on to Warhammer... ie crap, I assume.

    All: Cheers for great tips. While I'm not looking for a game like Wesnoth atm, I'm glad it was brought up as I was about to try it out a while ago but forgot.

    Seems like many games can be played on OS X so hopefully I won't have to boot up Windows. Sweet! =) Hearts of Iron 2 (and Doomsday expansion) is even a universal binary. w00t!
  • Stickman 15 Jan 2008 11:18:28 29,657 posts
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    Hearts of Iron 2 is indeed great, but it's not turn based or tactical.

    As Whizzo and TW have said, Combat Mission is what you want. You can get the three bundled for about 10 these days. Don't get the new one!

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  • LeoliansBro 15 Jan 2008 11:22:08 43,217 posts
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    Phreedh wrote:
    Leolian'sBro, the new Mighty Empires is just an add-on to Warhammer... ie crap, I assume.

    Yeah, I know, but you can download the old rulebook from their website. Also looks like the tiles would be perfect for a more robust Catan board.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Razz 15 Jan 2008 11:23:19 60,750 posts
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    The only game you should be playing is Civ. :p

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  • TurboBailey 15 Jan 2008 11:29:22 686 posts
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    Yeah CIV 4

  • FWB 15 Jan 2008 11:32:31 43,806 posts
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    Check out the Matrix Games website. There are quite a few tactical and strategic games there. I think a few of them aren't turn-based, but are real-time-turn-based, if that makes any sense to you.

    I also put in another vote for Hearts of Iron 2. Complicated and not turn-based (but due to the pause button can pretty much be played as such). Still, Paradox are one of the greatest strategy game developers on the planet.
  • jellyhead 15 Jan 2008 11:34:08 24,350 posts
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    and as i posted earlier here's the Matrix Games website.
    ;)

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  • Phreedh 15 Jan 2008 11:34:44 683 posts
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    jellyhead wrote:
    Hope it helps, there may be more on the way. I imagine these may be the Hex-grid type games but check them out anyway in case they aren't. :)
    Cheers mate! Hex is teh sex, so I don't mind!

    LB: I bought the original Harpoon ages ago, for the Amiga, but my wee sprog mind couldn't get to grips with it back then. The Warzaw Pact gave me a proper beating each time. =) I still loved it, for some reason.

    Stickman: Elaborate on "not turn based", I thought it was. That it's not tactical is not a problem, I'm more looking for strategical scale. I don't want to faff about with individual armament and.
  • Stickman 15 Jan 2008 11:53:07 29,657 posts
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    Like FWB said, it's not a 'you go, I go' affair, more a constant flow. You can pause it though to issue commands and whatnot. If it's strategic level WWII fare you're after then there's really no better. Sorry, I thought you wanted tactical level!

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  • FWB 15 Jan 2008 11:54:53 43,806 posts
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    I'd say it feels a lot like a turn based without you ever having to wait for your opponent to make his/her move. There are about 5 speed settings all adjustable at the tap of a key, so you can speed through any boring preparation periods and slow right down for intense conflict.
  • Clive_Dunn 15 Jan 2008 12:18:30 4,775 posts
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    Another vote for Hearts of Iron 2 here, set the difficulty levels to hard and have fun fighting the Russians as Germany.
  • alco75 16 Jan 2008 10:08:59 341 posts
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    Armageddon Empires

    8/10 on EG.

    Awesome.
  • GloatingSwine 16 Jan 2008 12:33:02 2,668 posts
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    RMXtreme wrote:
    Hearts of Iron II

    This. Get Doomsday for even more war.
  • GloatingSwine 16 Jan 2008 12:35:00 2,668 posts
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    Clive Dunn wrote:
    Another vote for Hearts of Iron 2 here, set the difficulty levels to hard and have fun fighting the Russians as Germany.

    Pfft. Germany has it easy. Try conquering the world as Peru.
  • Universal_Hamster 16 Jan 2008 12:55:48 4,948 posts
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    Jagged Alliance 2 is ALL YOU NEED.
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