Uncharted 720p only? Page 3

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  • Carlo 7 Jan 2008 10:10:40 18,093 posts
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    cthulhu_steev wrote:
    morriss wrote:
    Well, Naughty Dog said 1080i support, the link above proves it. Anyone care to swtich off 720p on their XMB and try running the game for me? Just so I can rule out that it's my TV and write an email to ND asking them what's going on? If the game plays at 1080i on your sets then of course its my TV. However, games like GT:prologue and LocoRoco run at 1080i, although none of those are boxed games.

    I only have a US NTSC copy, but I've just switched off 720p and 1080p in the XMB and the game started up in 1080i.
    Morriss, I'll give it a test tonight if you still need the EU 1080i test confirmed

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  • morriss 7 Jan 2008 10:12:01 71,122 posts
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    Thanks but it has been confirmed in here that it doesn't run in 1080i. Only NTSC versions do. Try it for yourself though, you never know, it might be just 'some' disks.
  • grandmaster Director, Digital Foundry 13 Jan 2008 18:57:22 4 posts
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    disc wrote:
    Right, tested it now on the US version. Snuck home at lunch (for other reasons hehe).

    If you have both 1080i and 720p selected the game will start in 720p. If you only have 1080i then it will start in 1080i. If you go close to the TV you can spot the difference but it looks pretty good in 1080i apart from edges of dark objects against a light background because then you can clearly spot the reduced vertical resolution and the interlacing (well if you know what to look for). But 1080i is WAAAY better than PAL or NTSC :)

    I'm fairly sure that Uncharted runs at 960x1080 so the reduction in resolution is horizontal rather than vertical ;) So that's 103,680 pixels rendered vs 921,600 - a whopping great 8.8% more pixels in 1080p mode!!

    I shall be writing to Sony demanding my pixels... or my money back ;)

    Seriously though, the human eye is far more sensitive to the amount of vertical resolution vs horizontal (hence anamorphic PAL DVDs offering a 'virtual' 1024x576 derived from a base 720x576 image) so I'm surprised they removed this mode, especially as I think it looks rather good on my 1080p display.

    I can only assume that Naughty Dog aren't aware of the small amount of 1080i CRT HDTVs out there, like those Samsung models that were popular for a short while before LCD and plasma prices plumetted.
  • Deleted user 13 January 2008 19:15:13
    grandmaster wrote:Seriously though, the human eye is far more sensitive to the amount of vertical resolution vs horizontal
    That's valid only on CRT based TVs, on LCD/Plasma/etc. it doesn't make any difference.
  • grandmaster Director, Digital Foundry 13 Jan 2008 19:33:33 4 posts
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    valli wrote:
    grandmaster wrote:Seriously though, the human eye is far more sensitive to the amount of vertical resolution vs horizontal
    That's valid only on CRT based TVs, on LCD/Plasma/etc. it doesn't make any difference.

    Well I'd have to take issue with that. The majority of plasmas out there use anamorphic pixels to pretty excellent effect (1024x768 being the most popular resolution). Plus of course Panavision cinema lenses are based on the same idea.
  • morriss 13 Jan 2008 20:08:38 71,122 posts
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    grandmaster wrote:


    I can only assume that Naughty Dog aren't aware of the small amount of 1080i CRT HDTVs out there, like those Samsung models that were popular for a short while before LCD and plasma prices plumetted.
    They are, that's why they announced 1080i support for it in the first place (see link on page 1). It's just been removed from the PAL version. That's the whole point of this thread...
  • Deleted user 13 January 2008 21:35:47
    grandmaster wrote:Well I'd have to take issue with that. The majority of plasmas out there use anamorphic pixels to pretty excellent effect (1024x768 being the most popular resolution). Plus of course Panavision cinema lenses are based on the same idea.
    You could have a point, however I've always thought the anamorphic aspect of plasmas was just that the electronic parts were designed for 1024x768, it being a common computer resolution.

    As for Panavision, surely that was designed to use the entire surface of the film for exposure (thus getting higher vertical res.) instead of hard matting the cameras and losing nearly 50% of the film?
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