Xbox 360 vs PS3 Face-Off: Round 14 Comments by Richard Leadbetter

360 wins again...what a surprise

These articles only serve to bait the flame wars, what a shitty set of games for a face off as well. Other than Soul Calibur 4, these games aren't worth the disks they've been printed on.

Please stop this madness! No more face-off's for the love of god ;xxx

I also try out demos on both systems, and I'm buggered if I can spot the difference in most cases. If I think it's good enough to buy on the PS3, that's the system I go for - I'm happy to sacrifice what little difference there is if I don't have to listen to the noise of my 360.

Of course, If I have friends buying a game for online play, I'll always go with what they get.

Uhhh, how is relating my own experience, and what I have stated as anecdotal evidence ignorance? I have seen a number of these games played across both systems, on more impressive setups than yours Hairy, and I can't see the difference.

That's what I've noticed, ya know, out here in the real world. Strangely enough, most people I know don't spend much of their time on gaming forums, and don't care what antialiasing is, or that some of the 360 games run bloom lighting better than the PS3...

I don't know, maybe I'm old fashioned, but I've always been of the opinion that it's the gameplay that matters, and if I (ya notice the I there - I'm talking about me Hairy...) can't see any difference while I'm playing the games, what difference does it make which console I'm playing them on?

"then fuck it up royally porting it. Code designed ground up on PS3 is far harder to port, and most of these companies, money > quality product."

I dunno, as far as I can tell PS3 to 360 is easier to port than 360 to PS3, it's just the 360 has the better dev tools and is easier to kick into shape, so it's cheaper to develop on the 360. Nobody wants the PS3 to be crap (well Microsoft do obviously, and I'm pretty sure Ken Kutaragi designed it on some sort of bet) it's just the way it's worked out do to the bonkers hardware and crappy dev tools.

Who cares, all those games are awful! Yippie!

I for one don't think these are a waste of time. If nothing else, it's interesting to see how the two consoles are shaping up against eachother in real terms, just out of curiosity.

The 360 has the best versions of most third party games. But its the excluisive games that matter the most and to me 360 wins that competition hands down. And its quite a bit cheaper - why anyone would buy PS3 over 360 is beyond me.

For all the other shit that you get PLUS the games.

Hmmm, the difference in image quality is just about identical to that seen between ATI and Nvidia PC Gfx cards of a few years ago.

Nvidia's offerings always seemed to have a duller,flatter less defined image quality compared to ATI's, and Nvidia's Anti-Aliasing was always inferior in games as well.

Apparently it was down to the quality of the RAMDAC chips used on the cards.

Seeing as both the 360 and PS3 use ATI/Nvidia gfx cards of 2004/2005 PC vintage, it could explain alot.

The people claiming the 360 "wins" seem to get a wowgasm when they see the word "anti-aliasing" which appears to be the major difference...

These are technical comparisons as others have pointed out: Generally people will not be bothered. I mean, some people seem to focus so much on the tech that they probably would claim e.g. Ring of the Nibelungen is a better adventure game than Monkey Island 2 because it ran at higher resolution and with more colours.

24bit lol.

Please call it an 8bit image. It's a personal bugbear of mine when people add the channels together.

Thanks,

Pedantic Ben

@pixel 180

i know I shouldn't but...

"The screen resolution is the highest of all the consoles." Really? Maximum res on both is 1080P as far as i know so please explain that comment.

"Then there's the games: Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid, and soon LittleBigPlanet." Wow, 3! Only one of which is properly out seeing as GT5 only exists in prologue form.

i hate it when people say "[insert console name] will never be an option for me" - such bollocks. Even if all your favourate exclusives went to that platform?

It's official...the 360 can polish a turd.

"That's what I've noticed, ya know, out here in the real world. Strangely enough, most people I know don't spend much of their time on gaming forums, and don't care what antialiasing is, or that some of the 360 games run bloom lighting better than the PS3..."

LOL, dude, is your argument that this content should not be on this website because the people who don't look at this website don't care about it? That's approximately the craziest thing I've ever heard.

"Just point us to Gametrailers or something where there is a video and no opinion. Let us make our own minds up before the game is released (or near as damn it)."

Why do you need to be "pointed" to Gametrailers? If that's the info you need, how is anything on (or not on) EG stopping you from looking there instead?

"I dunno, as far as I can tell PS3 to 360 is easier to port than 360 to PS3, it's just the 360 has the better dev tools and is easier to kick into shape, so it's cheaper to develop on the 360. Nobody wants the PS3 to be crap (well Microsoft do obviously, and I'm pretty sure Ken Kutaragi designed it on some sort of bet) it's just the way it's worked out do to the bonkers hardware and crappy dev tools."

So, porting from PS3 to XBox would be easier, then, excepting all the, em, programming? On what basis are you making this observation?

I realize I'm alienating just about everybody one by one, but these articles really bring out the crazies in the comments section. It's just some technical info. Some people find this geeky stuff interesting. Ever read a video card review on TechReport? They'll tell you about 12 varieties of anisotropic filtering for 8 pages, and then tell you all the cards perform the same. And there are actual people who care. Different strokes.

Doing games like Kung Fu Panda make these articles seem like a make-work scheme.

eurorgamer is trash thanks to richard..well done.

Half of the people moaning about pointlessness....have a good point

the other half just don't like seeing 360 have the edge on some games, those games are suddenly all shovelware...and i bet some of those people bought some of that shovelware to boot soulcalibur 4? shovelware? maybe?

I think they're interesting articles, but then i would, i have a 360 and enjoy learning about the little technical things i can't see that people would be telling me make the PS3 versions superior were it not for articles like these..

A nicely written informative article with some interesting facts I wasn't aware of but at the end of the day it's all a bit redundant really since these face offs come out months after the games have been released so are of no use for multiplatform owners like myself and not only cover mediocre games no-one really cares about but are of zero interest to people who only own one platform or the other. Unless you enjoy gloating that your system is better than a rival one that is... ;)

Anyway, the next face off should be more interesting as it will surely include NBA Live 09, FIFA 09 and Pure. The former two games based on the demos are almost identical on both platforms except for the PS3's usual weakness in the area of anti-aliasing but the latter is almost indistinguishable as far as I could tell. Seems to me that the better developers like Criterion and Blackrock (a.k.a. Climax Brighton) are the ones who know how and are prepared to put effort into getting their multiformat games looking identical on both formats whereas there's a tendency with many other developers for them to concentrate on the 360 version at the expense of the PS3 version, perhaps because the machine is too complex to code for and they don't have the time or resources to optimise them. Hopefully things will keep on improving to the point where 360 and PS3 games really *are* indistinguishable... I'd love to buy more multiformat games for my PS3... it's quieter for starters!!! LOL

I think the technical aspects of these articles are really interesting. I just wish it wouldn't stir up so much hatred amongst the console gamers.

PC for teh win! ;)

No harm in it, but it's becoming redundant as each console boasts almost identical versions now that developers seem to have worked out how each one works.

Wow. An article that contains clear visual evidence, with no bias other than what you can see with your own eyes. An article with technology used to ensure there is no unfair slant between the two sides, and no journalistic trickery to paint a pretty picture when there's not one to see... just the pure damn facts for you to see... and it's apparently 'pointless' because it could potentially bait the fanboys?

I get that some people don't care about 'the grafix', and people are not wrong on that. But these are some of the few articles that actually contain pure visual fact and nothing more, and for that I appriciate them. Too much of the gaming press has an underlying point or bias running underneath every news report. Eurogamer included.

As an Xbox 360 user I can say I am over the moon that the 360 version of Kung-Fu Panda is better than the PS3 version, it's game like that, that truely define a console....

To be honest these articles were probably useful in the beginning of the Console Wars, but not so far in.... does anyone really care? Theres usually not alot of difference in the games normally, one game is 1 millisecond faster etc etc.

Enough! Why are you still running these stupid articles? Is there a single person alive today who is still sitting on the fence due primarily to how each of these systems render the same geometry? You're wasting your time writing these, and I'm even going to bother reading this one.

I guess I've been lucky w/ my 360 as far as the reliabilty thing goes. I keep it in a closed cabinet that gets hotter than my PC would tolerate (frequent crashes and reboots), and at one point I dropped it from about 4 feet... it just keeps on ticking. (Knock on wood.)

GT5P is by far my most impressive PS3 title, when are EG going to compare it to the 360 version.....................

Love these face-offs and already looking forward to the next one.

Although they are making me lean towards 360 rather than PS3 for my non-Wii non-PC console purchase next month; that and the fact that the PS3 exclusives are 'meh' and if GT5P is the "best" then my mind is made up ... sprites FFS!

Words of the PS3 fanboys:

No! Stop posting these USELESS comparison articles!!!!

Thoughts of the PS3 fanboys:

...until the PS3 starts to win! At this point they'll become wonderful and the best thing in the world!!!

Thoughts of Ryze:

I can't wait until the PS3 begins to win these articles, as IT'LL MAKE ME MORE LIKELY TO BUY THE FUCKING CONSOLE SOONER.

So stop fucking whining you silly children - go buy some Blu-Rays.

These comparisons include the frame rate, so they absolutely impact on the gameplay.

@SAH1977

PGR4 is a fantastic game - loads of FUN and gorgeous looking!

I'd like to see the next comparison article cover Amiga, ST and PC versions of some of our favourite games.

Monkey_Puncher
"As an Xbox 360 user I can say I am over the moon that the 360 version of Kung-Fu Panda is better than the PS3 version, it's game like that, that truely define a console...."

Sniggers... Why bother with comparsions of the shovelware on both consoles, as not worth dragging us away from our gaming for!!

This bothers me more than the same old arguments that get aired at every head to head articles (16 round innit including the bonus head to heads?), nothing what we say going to actually convert anyone who already have their next gen console or being wasted on those already having both the consoles!

I only ask very kindly for EG to try to refrain from filling the article up with any games scoring less than 8/10!

/I know these kind of request would just be.....

It's a pointless argument to be honest.

The makers of the games make the game for one console and then basically copy it across, so there's never really going to be any difference between them.

If a company had a good length of time and concentrated purely on one console for the game, and then concentrated purely on the other console for the game using all of the benefits of both, only then will you see a difference.

That's the Truth

I have both the ps3 and the xbox360 it's very useful to me. If i have both, why not buy the better version.
Waiting for the Star Force Unleashed comparison :)

SoulCalibur IV

is only 1280x576 on PS3 when upscaling to 1080


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Quaz51
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finally PS3 1080p version is only 576 lines rendering (i don't see distinctly the horizontal resolution but seem 1280 like 720p mode or maybe little more) probably for compensate the cost of 60fps upscale
low res and lot of blur is bad. it's another perfect exemple that FORCE 1080P ON PS3 GAMES IS STUPID!. it's valuable for all game, in this case use your TV upscale quite simply.
if the game isn't automaticely output 1080p it's not without reasons. leave the game choice the better resolution. force 1080p is just for owner of old HDTV incompatible with 720p output

it's like VF5, 1024x1024 for 720p and 1024x768 for 1080p

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Great conclusion! Nicely wrapped up.

Darren = CUNT, I'm so bored of your monotonous bullshite, please go and kill yourself.

Xbox 360 games look better or identical to PS3 games... but Xbox 360s cost only half... but then they are loud and break easily?

No Burnout is not better on OS3 it just has a different color tone to cooler look on 360, PS3 has a more warmer color tone - that's all there is to it.

But Sony KEEP telling us, and telling the store clerks to tell us, and telling the magazines to tell us, and paying hedbog to tell us that the PS3 is a more powerful machine, charging twice the price, and for what? a 14 - 0 loss? in the wise words of Vin Diesel: it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning.

I like an underdog as much as the next guy, but this is getting ridiculous.

I'm yearning for the days when PS3 becomes lead platform, and the 360 has to be ported, just so we can finally know the truth of the matter. Will it ever happen?

Every time someone posts in one of these threads.. i'll kill a puppy..

>Bioshock is far superior on PC than Xbox 360.

No it's not.

Its the SAME average middle of the road shooter.. but with shinnier pixels on one platform than the other.

Is it superior? NO. It's the FUCKING SAME THING!!!

(rant rave, etc.. kills puppy)

Developers needs to get off their lazy arses and put more effort into ps3 games - no lends flare on SC V when they could easily add it in? Lazy sods -.-

i'm not going to make my mind up until faceoff no. 20

Why do so many people assume that "lazy developers" are the cause of the problems with PS3 games when compared to other platforms; the developers I know in the games industry can in no way be described as having "lazy arses".

Has anyone considered for a moment that it could be "Sony marketing" that is to blame and that the corporation's claims of superior power are as worthless as their previous hyperbole about the 'emotion engine'?

That's certainly the conclusion (as a non-PS3 non-360 owner) I've come to after reading these data- and fact-driven face-offs.

StooMonster,
As an owner of both aforementioned cack tubs, I find myself agreeing with your opinion. What can be garnered this opinion? Not much really. I like it like that.

5am? fuck! Im off to bed.

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Fuck! Dark era! Man U fan! Brain Wrong! My mouth is laying turds that my toilet cant flush! With that amount of BORING you could have totally cored a galactic sized apple.What An Engine Earing Feet.

ps3 worst investment ever unless u need a new dvd player.

LOL at all the xbots gettting another hardon for a EG face off.