Xbox 360 vs PS3 Face-Off: Round 14

By Richard Leadbetter Published 26 September, 2008

SoulCalibur IV, Mercs 2, Kung Fu Panda, Beijing, GH Aerosmith, FaceBreaker, Hulk, EA Sports roundup.

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No introduction is necessary for our latest console comparison feature; you all know the deal by now. Top notch 24-bit RGB screenshots? Check. HD-derived streaming video with crystal clear h.264 quality? Check. Flame-retardant clothing capable of withstanding the Human Torch's nova-blast? Double-check.

Just a couple of notes before the rows and bitter recriminations commence. Beginning with this latest feature, we're now embedding larger videos. There are also extended versions with even higher resolution available as clickthroughs via Eurogamer TV. Make sure you hit the 'high quality' button to get the full benefits of h.264 encoding. If the cropped, slow motion videos are not good enough for you, full 720p 60FPS downloads optimised for playback on both 360 and PS3 are available on the author's blog.

For more in-depth, studied comparisons, don't forget the exhaustive screenshot galleries that accompany each game. Thanks to Eurogamer screenshot viewer 2.0, you can switch the view between both versions of each game at the touch of a button. All games get 720p shots, with 1080p galleries added where support is available in the PS3 code.

There's a nice mixture of old and new in this feature, as we attempt to clear the decks before the unstoppable onslaught of the Q4 games rush begins:

Thanks, as ever, to Quaz51 for the invaluable technical assistance. Coming next: Pure, LEGO Batman, Brothers-in-Arms: Hell's Highway, Far Cry 2, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed... And more!

Previous Face-Offs:

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Comments (194) Latest comment 3 years ago

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  • stevencole7 #1 3 years ago

    PS3 all the way!

  • MossyMos #2 3 years ago

    Excellent !! The tard article # 14 is ready.

    Why do you keep doing this EG ?

    Oh, I forgot.

  • BiscuitBase #3 3 years ago

    Wii wins again!

  • DFawkes #4 3 years ago

    Depth of field blurring effects must die, regardless of game or console. That's all from me.

  • MilkYMoO #5 3 years ago

    So its 14-0 for the 360, but please no more face offs. I'm at last, starting to really enjoy my ps3. My 360 needs a rest from all the gaming goodness it gives me, but comparisons like this tempt me to get rid of my ps3.

  • Triggerhappytel #6 3 years ago

    To be totally honest, I don't really think these articles are worthwhile unless you're covering a game that the EG masses care about. Soulcalibur IV is probably the only game 90% of the people reading this are fussed over; did anyone here really buy Hulk, Kung-Fu Panda or Facebreaker?!

  • Dizzy #7 3 years ago

    I would be nice if the PS3 won one for once... just to see what would happen in this thread.

  • Widge #8 3 years ago

    Holy shit! Someone page HairyCrack QUICK!

  • metalnut #9 3 years ago

    I think these articles do serve a purpose, unless you've already decided on which console to buy (or both) in which case they're pointless. I certainly found them useful when deciding which one to go for, as just a part of my decision process. Obviously the 360 tends to come off better in most of these cross-platform comparisons, but then the differences aren't *that* significant any more and you have other factors to consider, like whether you want a Blu-Ray player, a wireless thrown in, the price, the heat / noise factors, the online cost vs experience etc. Throw everything in the pot and stir, and each person will have different priorities.

    Of course, some people will use them as an excuse to argue the 'universal superiority' of their chosen brand, but they're just wankers.

    Edit: for the record I chose 360, but I still think people use these articles as gloating ammunition are tossers. I might get a PS3 too sometime.
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/08 @ 14:45

  • GamesConnoisseur #10 3 years ago

    Please!!! If you going to post comments DISSING Head to Head articles, you only add to the numbers of the post showing level of interest in the feature!

    Let it go..

    Again X360 win, even over the huge number of the brutal rounds, even when Apololol have been at the first couple of rounds, just telling us to 'wait and see' and PS3 will catch X360 suprised and deliver KO!

    ..here we are still waiting!

    I did say enough is enough but I would agree that if EG had to do the feature, then let them ONLY do AAA titles, that are worth our times and bandwidth!

    I likewise starting to enjoy PS3, Wipeout HD, Trophy enabled Uncharted and so on, but will always be X360 for multi platform until X720 I expect!

  • warbo #11 3 years ago

    These comparison features are always interesting. It's not just about which version looks slightly better, it's also about how developers are getting along with this generation of console hardware.

    Keep up the good work.

  • login_name #12 3 years ago

    I would be nice if the PS3 won one for once... just to see what would happen in this thread.

    Isn't Burnout better on PS3?

    Personally I think the PS3 version of SCIV is better (I own both, one was a gift). Faster loading (even for 1v1 fights), better controller and, for a limited time, a better bonus character. The graphical differences are so slight and don't affect gameplay.

    Of course, as is the case with the majority of the games, most people will be happy with either one.

  • Lexx87 #13 3 years ago

    /huge fucking facepalm at you twonks complaining about this article. Don't fucking read it if you don't care for christ sake.

  • KayJay #14 3 years ago

    How many of these games are on people list to buy/play. I suspect Only SoulCalibur IV and perhaps maybe Tiger Woods. Both of these are more of less equal on both systems.

    The rest lets be honest no one is really interested in playing. And those that would want to play KungGu Panda & the Incredible Hulk wont really care about a missing frame here or a tear there.

    AAA titles on the 360 and AAA titles on the PS3 are worlds apart from anything in the list above.

    Although these face off's are annoying and just breed 500 comments of craziness you have to respect the work and effort Mr Leadbetter puts in here. Really good job.

  • moggsy #15 3 years ago

    If nothing else these articles keep the developers honest. That's got to be a good thing yes?

    They may even have had a small part to play in the improvement on the PS3 side of things too.

  • Moonprince #16 3 years ago

    Again X360 win, even over the huge number of the brutal rounds, even when Apololol have been at the first couple of rounds, just telling us to 'wait and see' and PS3 will catch X360 suprised and deliver KO!

    - you are sad :(

  • Garulon #17 3 years ago

    "Isn't Burnout better on PS3?"

    Luckily, due to these very face offs, we can answer that question. The answer is no.

  • JohnnyWashnGo #18 3 years ago

    What is it about the PS3 that makes multiplatform games on the system crappy?

    Surely on paper it thrashes, soundly, the Xbox360. But in reality, all those cell processor cores seem to be going to waste.
    Either that or the Sony APIs that developers are using are not up to scratch.

    I am just oddly confused about the real reason for PS3 games being such toss.

    Great little machine tho, shame its not really pulling its weight.

  • Xerx3s #19 3 years ago

    No lensflares for the ps3 on SC5? ;)

  • Garulon #20 3 years ago

    And I love these things, it's like science vs religion; fanboy scum like Apololol wailing about how powerful the ps3 is "meant" to be vs the 360 causally beating it in actual tests, despite costing a lot, lot less money.

    I've heard (and this is a pure rumour that SC IV was going to run at 1080 on the 360 (hence the internal upscaling) but Sony threw such a hissy fit because there wasn't "platform parity" and threatened to withdraw their approval that Namco had to bodge the 360 version back.

    Welcome to the real next generation :(

  • Dizzy #21 3 years ago

    >Surely on paper it thrashes, soundly, the Xbox360

    Err.. no... quite the opposite as indicated by a lot of early "GPU bottleneck" tech articles. You probably could do some weird stuff with the floating point power of Cell if you design a game around those strengths (heavy physics maybe?). The GPU bottleneck is actually the result of a lot of the face-off losses of PS3. Bluray has also proved to be a non-issue for games (in multiplatform games ofc).

  • Darknight #22 3 years ago

    Maybe my eyeballs need polishing, but every time these articles come 'round I can barely notice any difference in the comparisons. This stuff is obviously written to bait all the retards, but when there is so little difference between versions, you have to ask what the point is...

    Also seems that the PS3 gets some harsh kicks from EG whenever possible. I can't help feeling that if the PS3 starts outshining the 360 in comparisons, then EG will stop printing these articles...

  • KayJay #23 3 years ago

    "I am just oddly confused about the real reason for PS3 games being such toss."

    They arent. All the games above (if you really wanted to actually play them (Most you just wouldn't)) will be perfectly fine and enjoyable. These tests drill down to every pixel, every shadow and some things your naked eye wont be able to pick up.

    These test are almost to efficient.
    Trust me if you popped down to Game picked up a copy of FaceBraker, Hulk, KungFu Panda or wot eva you will have an equal amount of fun if you picked up the 360 version or the PS3 version.

    The only two games that come close to being A are SoulCalibur IV & Tigger 09 and they cant be split anyway.
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/08 @ 15:14

  • Gargant #24 3 years ago

    The x360 has easier developer tools, so of course they win in multi-platform games.

    I wish they all coiuld just sit down and make a single console before the fanboyism gets to me.

  • Hamflank #25 3 years ago

    Haggar!

  • Garulon #26 3 years ago

    "Also seems that the PS3 gets some harsh kicks from EG whenever possible. I can't help feeling that if the PS3 starts outshining the 360 in comparisons, then EG will stop printing these articles..."

    Why? They'd get just as many hits if not more, plus the people whining about how it "doesn't matter" will suddenly think they're really important.

    I don't know how exactly the PS3 would outshine the 360 in comparisions though, the 360 has a bit of a better GPU and a bit more memory and is a bit easier to program; the best you can hope for is it to pull even.

  • bioreit #27 3 years ago

    @ metalnut

    +1 for the considered, rational comment. Well done for listing features of the respective consoles and not saying "See! X is better than Y because it has Z included and/or A is more refined!" If only everyone could get it into their heads that people have, you know, different tastes and priorities.

  • GordonCaladan #28 3 years ago

    /huge fucking facepalm at you twonks complaining about this article. Don't fucking read it if you don't care for christ sake.

    I didn't, so I can complain, right?

  • KayJay #29 3 years ago

    Lets draw one under this article.
    A couple of good sound posts from metalnut, Darknight, bioreit & I would like to think myself have said everything that needs to be said.

    Here is the line....

    _____________________________________________________

  • chris_ace #30 3 years ago

    Post deleted at 11:55:13 13-12-2011

  • Gargant #31 3 years ago

    Stop it! You're making my head hurt!

  • KayJay #32 3 years ago

    Here is the line.... chris_ace ;-)

    _____________________________________________________

  • onyxbox #33 3 years ago

    complete and utter waste of bandwidth.

    crap games with low dev costs. and differences that no one cares about. like someone already pointed out SC4 and perhaps the EA games are all that people care about.

  • Gargant #34 3 years ago

    The next one to say anything remotely like "My console is better than yours",
    gets a virtual shotgun in his ir her face!

    That's right!
    I'm pulling no puunches in the difference of bodily equipment!

  • onyxbox #35 3 years ago

    can EG have an 'ignore article' button for these ongoing features?

  • presh #36 3 years ago

    Moggsy said:
    If nothing else these articles keep the developers honest. That's got to be a good thing yes?

    They may even have had a small part to play in the improvement on the PS3 side of things too.

    +100
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/08 @ 16:01

  • Darknight #37 3 years ago

    @ kj66246

    I said something useful for once...?

    \o/

  • siro #38 3 years ago

    I love these articles. Wonder why you say Tiger Woods is the same though even you describe the 360 version being a tad better.

    Overall these are very helpful for people owning both machines.

  • Physically_Insane #39 3 years ago

    EG, these articles are embarrassing. And I'm a 360 owner!

  • GamerG #40 3 years ago

    I'm gonna give my 360 a great big kiss when I get home!

    Keep up the good work Eurogamer!
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/08 @ 16:27

  • login_name #41 3 years ago

    Luckily, due to these very face offs, we can answer that question. The answer is no.

    Actually, due to these face offs, we can indeed answer that question. The answer is yes, by a small, anal margin, but yes none the less. Which is usually the case when the 360 "wins", on the big budget titles.

  • Darknight #42 3 years ago

    @ siro

    Just curious, but can you notice whilst playing the games any difference between 360 and PS3 versions? I'm not saying there aren't any differences - there are - but I really can't notice them when the games are running in front of me.

    If I can't see any difference between the systems (and given anecdotal feedback from other friends with both consoles, I'm not the only one) then how is this article useful at all?

    /can't notice screen tearing either

  • onyxbox #43 3 years ago

    @hedbog

    +1 well said

  • darc #44 3 years ago

    I don't understand why everyone gets so nuts about how "pointless" these articles are. I mean, yes, you could make the argument that games journalism on the whole is "pointless" - we're not curing cancer here or anything. But assuming you enjoy reading about games and game-related technology, how is this not a valid point of interest. Consider:

    A. If I don't own either of these platforms, but would consider buying one, this might help me decide which one.
    B. If I own one of these platforms, but am trying to justify owning both, see A.
    C. If I already own both, and want to know which version of a specific game to buy, this is obviously very helpful information.
    D. If I don't give a hoot about video games, I am not reading Eurogamer in the first place.

    What is so complicated?

    Yes, it's true that this becomes less interesting as releases become more and more similar - but that was not always the case and is not a foregone conclusion even now.

  • GamerG #45 3 years ago

    @hedbog

    These "Shovelwhare" titles make up 90%+ of the games for a system! You cant compare exclusives because they aren't out on the other machine so this is the best we can do. These comparisons are very useful for multi platform holders and for those choosing a new system, put it simply if you don't like it DON'T READ IT!

    It seems to me the PS3 v 360 debate is a very Hot topic on gaming forums so Eurogamer are very right to run these articles and those dismissing them as "boring" "a waste of time" clearly have an agenda.
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/08 @ 16:36

  • IneptPercy #46 3 years ago

    I can see how these can be useful to owners of both consoles, I don't own both I admit but if I did I would get the better version of a game even if it was only slight.

    If anything I am glad that the differences are becoming less now, I really do want the PS3 to do well so the price will come down.

  • septimus #47 3 years ago

    Any important game (SC4 and Tiger 09) will be okay on either. Shit like FaceBreaker can drop off the face of the planet. Along with these comparisons.

    Just point us to Gametrailers or something where there is a video and no opinion. Let us make our own minds up before the game is released (or near as damn it).

  • septimus #48 3 years ago

    JohnnyWashnGo: "What is it about the PS3 that makes multiplatform games on the system crappy? "

    They port from 360 code bases usually. Easier and quicker to get something running, then fuck it up royally porting it. Code designed ground up on PS3 is far harder to port, and most of these companies, money > quality product.

    Must admit, I usually buy things for the PS3 over the 360, personal preference on controller etc, but always compare on demos etc before. Usually the difference in minimal if non existant.

  • des #49 3 years ago

    360 wins again...what a surprise

  • Monkey_Puncher #50 3 years ago

    These articles only serve to bait the flame wars, what a shitty set of games for a face off as well. Other than Soul Calibur 4, these games aren't worth the disks they've been printed on.

  • Krelle #51 3 years ago

    Please stop this madness! No more face-off's for the love of god ;xxx

  • Stormflood #52 3 years ago

    I also try out demos on both systems, and I'm buggered if I can spot the difference in most cases. If I think it's good enough to buy on the PS3, that's the system I go for - I'm happy to sacrifice what little difference there is if I don't have to listen to the noise of my 360.

    Of course, If I have friends buying a game for online play, I'll always go with what they get.

  • Darknight #53 3 years ago

    Uhhh, how is relating my own experience, and what I have stated as anecdotal evidence ignorance? I have seen a number of these games played across both systems, on more impressive setups than yours Hairy, and I can't see the difference.

    That's what I've noticed, ya know, out here in the real world. Strangely enough, most people I know don't spend much of their time on gaming forums, and don't care what antialiasing is, or that some of the 360 games run bloom lighting better than the PS3...

    I don't know, maybe I'm old fashioned, but I've always been of the opinion that it's the gameplay that matters, and if I (ya notice the I there - I'm talking about me Hairy...) can't see any difference while I'm playing the games, what difference does it make which console I'm playing them on?

  • Garulon #54 3 years ago

    "then fuck it up royally porting it. Code designed ground up on PS3 is far harder to port, and most of these companies, money > quality product."

    I dunno, as far as I can tell PS3 to 360 is easier to port than 360 to PS3, it's just the 360 has the better dev tools and is easier to kick into shape, so it's cheaper to develop on the 360. Nobody wants the PS3 to be crap (well Microsoft do obviously, and I'm pretty sure Ken Kutaragi designed it on some sort of bet) it's just the way it's worked out do to the bonkers hardware and crappy dev tools.

  • sparced #55 3 years ago

    Who cares, all those games are awful! Yippie!

  • Nithron #56 3 years ago

    I for one don't think these are a waste of time. If nothing else, it's interesting to see how the two consoles are shaping up against eachother in real terms, just out of curiosity.

  • muscleblade #57 3 years ago

    The 360 has the best versions of most third party games. But its the excluisive games that matter the most and to me 360 wins that competition hands down. And its quite a bit cheaper - why anyone would buy PS3 over 360 is beyond me.

  • Widge #58 3 years ago

    For all the other shit that you get PLUS the games.

  • Bagpuss #59 3 years ago

    Hmmm, the difference in image quality is just about identical to that seen between ATI and Nvidia PC Gfx cards of a few years ago.

    Nvidia's offerings always seemed to have a duller,flatter less defined image quality compared to ATI's, and Nvidia's Anti-Aliasing was always inferior in games as well.

    Apparently it was down to the quality of the RAMDAC chips used on the cards.

    Seeing as both the 360 and PS3 use ATI/Nvidia gfx cards of 2004/2005 PC vintage, it could explain alot.

  • AOFanboi #60 3 years ago

    The people claiming the 360 "wins" seem to get a wowgasm when they see the word "anti-aliasing" which appears to be the major difference...

    These are technical comparisons as others have pointed out: Generally people will not be bothered. I mean, some people seem to focus so much on the tech that they probably would claim e.g. Ring of the Nibelungen is a better adventure game than Monkey Island 2 because it ran at higher resolution and with more colours.

  • octo #61 3 years ago

    24bit lol.

    Please call it an 8bit image. It's a personal bugbear of mine when people add the channels together.

    Thanks,

    Pedantic Ben

  • richardiox #62 3 years ago

    @pixel 180

    i know I shouldn't but...

    "The screen resolution is the highest of all the consoles." Really? Maximum res on both is 1080P as far as i know so please explain that comment.

    "Then there's the games: Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid, and soon LittleBigPlanet." Wow, 3! Only one of which is properly out seeing as GT5 only exists in prologue form.

    i hate it when people say "[insert console name] will never be an option for me" - such bollocks. Even if all your favourate exclusives went to that platform?

  • darc #63 3 years ago

    "That's what I've noticed, ya know, out here in the real world. Strangely enough, most people I know don't spend much of their time on gaming forums, and don't care what antialiasing is, or that some of the 360 games run bloom lighting better than the PS3..."

    LOL, dude, is your argument that this content should not be on this website because the people who don't look at this website don't care about it? That's approximately the craziest thing I've ever heard.

    "Just point us to Gametrailers or something where there is a video and no opinion. Let us make our own minds up before the game is released (or near as damn it)."

    Why do you need to be "pointed" to Gametrailers? If that's the info you need, how is anything on (or not on) EG stopping you from looking there instead?

    "I dunno, as far as I can tell PS3 to 360 is easier to port than 360 to PS3, it's just the 360 has the better dev tools and is easier to kick into shape, so it's cheaper to develop on the 360. Nobody wants the PS3 to be crap (well Microsoft do obviously, and I'm pretty sure Ken Kutaragi designed it on some sort of bet) it's just the way it's worked out do to the bonkers hardware and crappy dev tools."

    So, porting from PS3 to XBox would be easier, then, excepting all the, em, programming? On what basis are you making this observation?

    I realize I'm alienating just about everybody one by one, but these articles really bring out the crazies in the comments section. It's just some technical info. Some people find this geeky stuff interesting. Ever read a video card review on TechReport? They'll tell you about 12 varieties of anisotropic filtering for 8 pages, and then tell you all the cards perform the same. And there are actual people who care. Different strokes.
    Edited by 3 at 26/09/08 @ 18:09

  • Feanor #64 3 years ago

    Doing games like Kung Fu Panda make these articles seem like a make-work scheme.

  • Zappa #65 3 years ago

    eurorgamer is trash thanks to richard..well done.

  • BillyBrush #66 3 years ago

    Half of the people moaning about pointlessness....have a good point

    the other half just don't like seeing 360 have the edge on some games, those games are suddenly all shovelware...and i bet some of those people bought some of that shovelware to boot soulcalibur 4? shovelware? maybe?

    I think they're interesting articles, but then i would, i have a 360 and enjoy learning about the little technical things i can't see that people would be telling me make the PS3 versions superior were it not for articles like these..

  • Darren #67 3 years ago

    A nicely written informative article with some interesting facts I wasn't aware of but at the end of the day it's all a bit redundant really since these face offs come out months after the games have been released so are of no use for multiplatform owners like myself and not only cover mediocre games no-one really cares about but are of zero interest to people who only own one platform or the other. Unless you enjoy gloating that your system is better than a rival one that is... ;)

    Anyway, the next face off should be more interesting as it will surely include NBA Live 09, FIFA 09 and Pure. The former two games based on the demos are almost identical on both platforms except for the PS3's usual weakness in the area of anti-aliasing but the latter is almost indistinguishable as far as I could tell. Seems to me that the better developers like Criterion and Blackrock (a.k.a. Climax Brighton) are the ones who know how and are prepared to put effort into getting their multiformat games looking identical on both formats whereas there's a tendency with many other developers for them to concentrate on the 360 version at the expense of the PS3 version, perhaps because the machine is too complex to code for and they don't have the time or resources to optimise them. Hopefully things will keep on improving to the point where 360 and PS3 games really *are* indistinguishable... I'd love to buy more multiformat games for my PS3... it's quieter for starters!!! LOL

  • mkreku #68 3 years ago

    I think the technical aspects of these articles are really interesting. I just wish it wouldn't stir up so much hatred amongst the console gamers.

    PC for teh win! ;)

  • The_Inquisitor #69 3 years ago

    No harm in it, but it's becoming redundant as each console boasts almost identical versions now that developers seem to have worked out how each one works.

  • Shakey_Jake33 #70 3 years ago

    Wow. An article that contains clear visual evidence, with no bias other than what you can see with your own eyes. An article with technology used to ensure there is no unfair slant between the two sides, and no journalistic trickery to paint a pretty picture when there's not one to see... just the pure damn facts for you to see... and it's apparently 'pointless' because it could potentially bait the fanboys?

    I get that some people don't care about 'the grafix', and people are not wrong on that. But these are some of the few articles that actually contain pure visual fact and nothing more, and for that I appriciate them. Too much of the gaming press has an underlying point or bias running underneath every news report. Eurogamer included.

  • Monkey_Puncher #71 3 years ago

    As an Xbox 360 user I can say I am over the moon that the 360 version of Kung-Fu Panda is better than the PS3 version, it's game like that, that truely define a console....

  • makeamazing #72 3 years ago

    To be honest these articles were probably useful in the beginning of the Console Wars, but not so far in.... does anyone really care? Theres usually not alot of difference in the games normally, one game is 1 millisecond faster etc etc.

  • yagisencho #73 3 years ago

    Enough! Why are you still running these stupid articles? Is there a single person alive today who is still sitting on the fence due primarily to how each of these systems render the same geometry? You're wasting your time writing these, and I'm even going to bother reading this one.

  • darc #74 3 years ago

    I guess I've been lucky w/ my 360 as far as the reliabilty thing goes. I keep it in a closed cabinet that gets hotter than my PC would tolerate (frequent crashes and reboots), and at one point I dropped it from about 4 feet... it just keeps on ticking. (Knock on wood.)

  • SAH1977 #75 3 years ago

    GT5P is by far my most impressive PS3 title, when are EG going to compare it to the 360 version.....................

  • StooMonster #76 3 years ago

    Love these face-offs and already looking forward to the next one.

    Although they are making me lean towards 360 rather than PS3 for my non-Wii non-PC console purchase next month; that and the fact that the PS3 exclusives are 'meh' and if GT5P is the "best" then my mind is made up ... sprites FFS!
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/08 @ 21:09

  • Ryze #77 3 years ago

    Words of the PS3 fanboys:

    No! Stop posting these USELESS comparison articles!!!!

    Thoughts of the PS3 fanboys:

    ...until the PS3 starts to win! At this point they'll become wonderful and the best thing in the world!!!

    Thoughts of Ryze:

    I can't wait until the PS3 begins to win these articles, as IT'LL MAKE ME MORE LIKELY TO BUY THE FUCKING CONSOLE SOONER.

    So stop fucking whining you silly children - go buy some Blu-Rays.

    These comparisons include the frame rate, so they absolutely impact on the gameplay.

    @SAH1977

    PGR4 is a fantastic game - loads of FUN and gorgeous looking!

    I'd like to see the next comparison article cover Amiga, ST and PC versions of some of our favourite games.

  • GamesConnoisseur #78 3 years ago

    Monkey_Puncher
    "As an Xbox 360 user I can say I am over the moon that the 360 version of Kung-Fu Panda is better than the PS3 version, it's game like that, that truely define a console...."

    Sniggers... Why bother with comparsions of the shovelware on both consoles, as not worth dragging us away from our gaming for!!

    This bothers me more than the same old arguments that get aired at every head to head articles (16 round innit including the bonus head to heads?), nothing what we say going to actually convert anyone who already have their next gen console or being wasted on those already having both the consoles!

    I only ask very kindly for EG to try to refrain from filling the article up with any games scoring less than 8/10!

    /I know these kind of request would just be.....

  • SilentScream #79 3 years ago

    It's a pointless argument to be honest.

    The makers of the games make the game for one console and then basically copy it across, so there's never really going to be any difference between them.

    If a company had a good length of time and concentrated purely on one console for the game, and then concentrated purely on the other console for the game using all of the benefits of both, only then will you see a difference.

    That's the Truth

  • majorg85k #80 3 years ago

    I have both the ps3 and the xbox360 it's very useful to me. If i have both, why not buy the better version.
    Waiting for the Star Force Unleashed comparison :)

  • anonim1979 #81 3 years ago

    SoulCalibur IV

    is only 1280x576 on PS3 when upscaling to 1080


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    finally PS3 1080p version is only 576 lines rendering (i don't see distinctly the horizontal resolution but seem 1280 like 720p mode or maybe little more) probably for compensate the cost of 60fps upscale
    low res and lot of blur is bad. it's another perfect exemple that FORCE 1080P ON PS3 GAMES IS STUPID!. it's valuable for all game, in this case use your TV upscale quite simply.
    if the game isn't automaticely output 1080p it's not without reasons. leave the game choice the better resolution. force 1080p is just for owner of old HDTV incompatible with 720p output

    it's like VF5, 1024x1024 for 720p and 1024x768 for 1080p




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  • MrsPacMan #82 3 years ago

    Darren = CUNT, I'm so bored of your monotonous bullshite, please go and kill yourself.

  • captain-future #83 3 years ago

    Xbox 360 games look better or identical to PS3 games... but Xbox 360s cost only half... but then they are loud and break easily?

  • TRUTH #84 3 years ago

    No Burnout is not better on OS3 it just has a different color tone to cooler look on 360, PS3 has a more warmer color tone - that's all there is to it.

  • RazorObsession #85 3 years ago

    But Sony KEEP telling us, and telling the store clerks to tell us, and telling the magazines to tell us, and paying hedbog to tell us that the PS3 is a more powerful machine, charging twice the price, and for what? a 14 - 0 loss? in the wise words of Vin Diesel: it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning.

    I like an underdog as much as the next guy, but this is getting ridiculous.

    I'm yearning for the days when PS3 becomes lead platform, and the 360 has to be ported, just so we can finally know the truth of the matter. Will it ever happen?

  • smelly #86 3 years ago

    Every time someone posts in one of these threads.. i'll kill a puppy..

  • smelly #87 3 years ago

    >Bioshock is far superior on PC than Xbox 360.

    No it's not.

    Its the SAME average middle of the road shooter.. but with shinnier pixels on one platform than the other.

    Is it superior? NO. It's the FUCKING SAME THING!!!

    (rant rave, etc.. kills puppy)

  • Mnia786 #88 3 years ago

    Developers needs to get off their lazy arses and put more effort into ps3 games - no lends flare on SC V when they could easily add it in? Lazy sods -.-

  • coastal #89 3 years ago

    i'm not going to make my mind up until faceoff no. 20

  • StooMonster #90 3 years ago

    Why do so many people assume that "lazy developers" are the cause of the problems with PS3 games when compared to other platforms; the developers I know in the games industry can in no way be described as having "lazy arses".

    Has anyone considered for a moment that it could be "Sony marketing" that is to blame and that the corporation's claims of superior power are as worthless as their previous hyperbole about the 'emotion engine'?

    That's certainly the conclusion (as a non-PS3 non-360 owner) I've come to after reading these data- and fact-driven face-offs.

  • klixman #91 3 years ago

    StooMonster,
    As an owner of both aforementioned cack tubs, I find myself agreeing with your opinion. What can be garnered this opinion? Not much really. I like it like that.

  • klixman #92 3 years ago

    5am? fuck! Im off to bed.

  • Dark_Era #93 3 years ago

    BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING

  • klixman #94 3 years ago

    Fuck! Dark era! Man U fan! Brain Wrong! My mouth is laying turds that my toilet cant flush! With that amount of BORING you could have totally cored a galactic sized apple.What An Engine Earing Feet.

  • triforce23 #95 3 years ago

    ps3 worst investment ever unless u need a new dvd player.

  • #96 3 years ago

    LOL at all the xbots gettting another hardon for a EG face off.

  • drumbaby #97 3 years ago

    I love watching EG squrim and evade when the 360 comes off worse...hilarious :)

  • Widge #98 3 years ago

    Hm, it actually seems like there is less care value as time goes along in these threads! This is well under the usual postage count.
    Unless the usuals are too busy off playing LBP at the moment!

  • fat_agnus #99 3 years ago

    Like many other: yes, I can spot some differences between the versions on screen shots on my computer screen. I cannot tell the PS3 version from the 360 version apart when the game is actually running unless I'm actively looking for differences instead of actually playing the game.

    Multi-platform games will probably never be superior on the PS3. Why? Because graphic performance is about the same on both consoles, the 360 has slightly more advanced pixel shader hardware and much better anti-alias HW. The 360 has 512Mb of memory that is shared between the CPU and GFX, PS3 has 256Mb for the CPU and 256Mb for the GFX. The 256/256 split is not the very balanced, the GFX should have been given more memory than the CPU. The benefit of having memory split between the CPU and the GFX card is that they have their own bus to the memory while the CPU/GFX has to share the memory bus on the 360. the benefit of shared memory is that different games has a different graphic to code/sound/etc ratio and the PS3 forces a 50/50 split. The PS3 has much higher general floating point throughput.

    If the game utilizes the 360 graphic card to it full extent, how can one make the game run on the PS3? Just decrease the resolution, texture resolution and/or drop/simply the pixershader. Still the same game.

    If the game utilizes the PS3 general floating performance for advanced physics simulation, how can one make the game run on the 360? This is probably a much harder problem to solve. The whole game feeling might be defined by the advanced physics, changing that would create a different game,

    End result: only PS3 exclusive games can use the SPE:s to their full extent.

    BTW: I have both consoles, but tend to go the PS3 versions since I like that controller more and the PS3 is quieter.

  • zooms #100 3 years ago

    I think its been long enough that the "PS3 has massive untapped power" myth can now be dismissed. It's apparent that developers have to work hard to get the PS3 to perform to the same standard as the X360.

    Sony seem to have ignored the voice of game developers when designing the architecture of the PS3. The extra effort required in developing for the PS3 means extra expense for the developer. If this was the first console from Sony entering a market dominated only by Microsoft and Nintendo it simple would not gain market share - developers would not touch it. Many of the developers I work with or speak to simple do not like to use the PS3 as the lead platform because of the extra trouble and time it takes to match what they are able to do on the X360.

    Using the X360 as the lead platform often means developers can bring a product to point where it can be demoed to potential publishers much quicker than if they had chosen the PS3 as the lead platform.

    Next time you think "Lazy Developers", maybe you should instead think "Shortsighted Sony".

  • Pasco #101 3 years ago

    Next generation doesn't start until Sony says so. We welcome our true FullHD overlords.

  • Kryon #102 3 years ago

    LULZ at the SDF. Just so you know, I'm taking great pleasure in drinking the sweet milky nectar of your tears.

    This is you :'(

    This is me :p

  • captain-future #103 3 years ago

    @Confounder: How much did your PC cost?

    A Xbox 360 is 200 to 300 EUR... is Bioshock really 10x better on the PC? I think not.

  • GamerG #104 3 years ago

    A friend of mine just asked what should he get a PS3 or a 360 and I pointed him to these article to help him and he made his mind up and got a 360!!

    Thanks Eurogamer, keep up the good work!

  • Kryon #105 3 years ago

    @noface

    Are you admitting to being SDF? You see, I'm also happy with my PS3 (and 360). I just like watching hedbog and a few others who really can't seem to handle the fact that the 360 is winning these silly articles :D

    I bought SCIV on the PS3 simply because I wanted to play as Vader on release day, that in itself proves I really don't care which version is minisculy better. I gave up being a 360 fanboy ages ago, it just got so easy that it no longer presented a challenge :(

  • IronCladChicken #106 3 years ago

    @captain-future
    MY PC can play games, browse the web, develop new games, application, etc.. word process, graphics process, build spreadsheets, be used to shop, to manage my finances, arrange y holidays (flights, car rental, etc), chat with (non-gaming) friends, play DVD's, Blu-Ray, music CD, watch analogue, digital (both standard definition and HD) TV - including pausing live TV, rewinding TV and a TV guide, it can record programs, download movies, convert movies to DVD/Blu-Ray format, listen to the radio, and so on and so forth and suchlike...

    It cost me Ł600 three years ago, I have it plugeed into my TV and run all my games (which tend to cost half the price of their console counterparts) all at true 1080p resolution (none of this upscaling crap), I use a wireless XBox360 controller for console style games, wireless mouse and keyboard for PC style games (& FPS, RTS games)...

    So yeah, bioshock is a better experience on the PC - if you really want to tlook at it that way.

  • Kryon #107 3 years ago

    @IronCladChicken

    How much did all the upgrades/Blu-Ray, etc, since your initial purchase come to? What spec is your rig, if you don't mind me asking?

  • rotmm #108 3 years ago

    @evilfoxhound,

    Not quite. It seems if it was designed on the 360 first, then the PS3 is inferior to a greater or lesser extent. If primarily developed on the PS3, then the 360 conversion matches it.

  • Paukl #109 3 years ago

    Oh fucking hell, another one?

    Pathetic.

  • Calgon #110 3 years ago

    evilfoxhound

    No the best way is to have two teams... that way the 360 and PC versions can be done without the PS3 holding things up for no benifit to the devs.

    COD4 and didnt GTAIV actually have two teams running in paralel from the begining also?

    Its a bit of a cheek for Sony and their fanboys to expect the rest of the industry to make decisions that really only benifit Sony and their fans... both 360 and PC would be much better off as it is with 360 as lead, let the devs choose how they work best and stop being selfish just because Sony made some bad decisions on their platform yet again... theres no doubt about it, thats what it boils down to.

    No I feel with 360 as lead the better it is for the gameplay which has slipped in dev priorities, this gen really needs things to balance things out again in that regard and that will happen much sooner with 360 as the lead platform.

    As far as the Gflops advantage(Id never use the term "general" for any of the PS3s advantages, thats its failing compared to 360 and thats what devs find usefull, its hard using more specialised hardware for tasks it wasnt really designed for) ... its on paper only so far and I really think the difference will fall far short of what it looks like between Cell and X360CPU, its never looked like a physics powerhouse even at this point with basically all available SPEs in use in some upcoming games.

    I have to say these articles are atleast the fairest and most thorough of their type around you have to atleast give Eurogamer that. I also find this kind of information interesting, but then I like my technology and graphics too so thats a given, then again even I sometimes wonder if its more trouble than its worth with the reactions the PS3 fans have to them(you can bet theyd see nothing wrong with them if PS3 was winning them though).

    Maybe EG could have a brand new section on the site for those that want it "Platform Comparisons"? "System Wars"? "Fanboys Corner"? Atleast then maybe they could just be on the front page for a short time when a new article is added and not at all for those who only have one system(who probably bookmarked the PS3 page and go straight there anyway).
    Edited by 2 at 27/09/08 @ 16:47

  • Pasco #111 3 years ago

    I don't understand the Kung Fu Panda hate. Did you guys play the demo? It's a decent action-adventure-platform-brawler-thingy that looks beautiful and runs smoothly and there aren't many of those in this hardware generation so I might as well buy it when it's cheaper.

    I will not buy the more 'important' Soul Calibur 4 though, because it has zero innovation, unbalanced gameplay and character design has gotten progressively uglier with each new iteration in the series. The characters in part 4 look even more ridiculous than Dead or Alive and I am not even talking about the tits. I see nothing in this that the developers should be commended for except online play perhaps.

  • VandelayIndustries #112 3 years ago

    I learned this lesson the hard way last summer with the Clancy/Ubisoft games for the PS3. They were so badly ported that I just went out and got a 360, so these articles would've saved me some money in the first place.

    When you look at games like Wipeout HD, Uncharted and MGS4 (the motorcycle cut scene/gameplay bit especially) its pretty clear that the PS3 can match up to 360 in terms of graphics.

    So why can't the third party's match the two versions of their games like for like? When you consider the good work Criterion managed to pull off with Burnout Paradise and compare that with Codemasters and Grid, for example, It has to be laziness.

    Unless the PS3 is used as the lead platform I'll be getting all third party games for the 360 and just use the PS3 for its exclusives.

  • Gradius #113 3 years ago

    @Pasco

    Yup, I totally agree, Kun Fu Panda pisses on SCIV.

    /Tries very hard to keep a straight face...

    /Fails

    /LOLASAURUS REX!

  • Calgon #114 3 years ago

    Ive repeated this quite alot but what the heck; its interesting now with all SPEs in use, CELL hasnt shown an advantage in physics yet(AI I never beleived it would 360 is much better suited for that, its still undecided which will perform better among the devs as far as I know but I think 360s arguements hold more weight). Sure there will be optimisations, perhaps more SPEs allocated for physics but then there will be a noticable drop elsewhere compared to the other top PS3 titles and whos to say 360 couldn't do the same (sacrificing other aspects of CPUs workload) to acheive the same.

    360s VMX128(Custom? Yep Id bet they are specifically for gaming too, since its said that even between IBMs other PPC chips no two have had the same version of VMX ) units are something MS has only just started emphasising in their dev conferences(Well last year was the first theyd talked on them publicly with the devs in any information that Ive found anyway...) they will be very usefull for Physics(could even out any floating point differences perhaps, hasnt been any game released on PS3 where they actually need to yet though but we'll see), animation and maybe some AI when devs get to grips with them(expect it wont be for multiplatform releases but big 360 only releases as porting may become alot more difficult... same principles as the CELLs SPEs funnily enough. Rares games might be the ones to watch since their style isnt as suited for PC to begin with so theres more chance of theirs being 360 only, plus they are generally pretty crafty with their engines and tech) you can expect a big improvement according to the research done.

    The funny thing is it was Sony and their fanboys too comically enough that pressed the importance of this topic from day one... my how its looking like that backfired big time on them! :D Perhaps they can learn from it, look at Nintendo they kind of proved its not really that important to the casual market aslong as you market it well and have something unique to offer, which in a way they all do its just its worked out better for Nintendo:

    Nintendo - Controller
    MS - It used to be the Online and still is in some respects but thats getting less apparent as Sony and Nintendo slowly improve on theirs which they are bound to do, so maybe they should stay ahead by improving Live constantly along with making sure their services are unique and or of the highest quality(same with the games Library too).
    PS3 - ... Blu-ray.

    Well I think it shows the casual consumer isnt fussed with high tech gadgetry, Blu-Ray will take alot longer than DVD to take off IMO (and it still wont be as popular) and although broadband penetration is getting higher all the time, the online aspect hasnt been as attractive so maybe mass market isnt fully online yet... but that could also be tied in with the marketing.
    Edited by 4 at 27/09/08 @ 17:01

  • wingzerosys #115 3 years ago

    Another flawless victory for the 360, I'm not surprised.

    These face-offs are nothing more but a way for Euro(360)gamer to prove that they're 360 fanboys.

    I'm sorry but 14-0, that's like a certain footy team winning every match, its probable but unlikely, especially when developers have said time and again that some are identical.

    Basically EG are comparing the 360 and PS3 to a MD/Genesis to a SNES (I wonder which one would would win 14-0?), both 16 bit but the SNES is graphically better, although the MD/Genesis has a lot more better games.

    These comparisons are bullshit, there is no way one of the consoles can beat the other 14-0, im sorry but this is the most biased shit ever.

    I find IGN, Gamefaqs and Gametrailers comparisons to be unbiased/non fanboys, as both consoles get fair comparisons and neither get a 14-0 victory.

    Btw I own all 3 current gen systems, I'm just sick of all this biased fanboy nonsense, exclusives FTW.

    @Gamer G.

    You're mate is an idiot.
    Edited by 1 at 27/09/08 @ 19:40

  • wingzerosys #116 3 years ago

    Sorry for double post.

    You're mate is an idiot for deciding to get a 360 after reading EG's biased comparisons.

    SCIV on the PS3 beats the 360 version for the simple fact that its got Darth *fricking* Vader, an extra cutscene with Vader facing off with Starkiller, SW stages that match Vader, Yoda is broken and the PS3 dpad is better for fighting games.

    Graphical differences (not noticed any myself) mean shit when you've got those reasons, besides everywhere else said there graphically identical.

    This is my last post in these comments, none of us can stop EG from being biased 360 fanboys.

    I mainly buy multiplats on 360 due to buying prequels on the xbox or from unbiased non-fanboy comparisons, I read up on which version is better first and I don't have to wait normally a month for EG's bullshit comparisons.
    Edited by 2 at 27/09/08 @ 19:59

  • Calgon #117 3 years ago

    You've got to be taking the piss right? IGN or Gamespot... HA!

    The one thing these comparisons arent is biased... Gamespot or IGN dont even bother to the extent that EG go to, to be as accurate as possible... with them its just a guess based of what they think they see... with Eurogamer all you'd need to do to know they are the most reputable comparisons available is READ THE OPENING F*****G PARAGRAPHS for each face off. None of the other comparisons use the equipment EG use to make them so accurate and fair.. theres no arguing with that, Richard even points out anything that could come down to personal taste... like extra motion blur and dithering for example. If anything it stop people bullshitting about which version is best just because they favour one company over the other. Does that automatically mean that the PS3 version isnt any good because the 360 version is slightly better on a technical level? Not at all, it could be that you prefer the PS3 controller for that particular game for example(if you're mad! lol I bet the 360s pad is way better for most games).
    Edited by 2 at 27/09/08 @ 22:58

  • StooMonster #118 3 years ago

    The more developers do this, the better, For the 360 and the PS3.

    How can it be better for the 360 if PS3 is the lead platform?

    It would certainly be better for PS3 as 360 version would more likely be equal to rather than exceed the rendering performance of PS3 that these Eurogamer Face-Offs consistently show is the norm.


    These face-offs are nothing more but a way for Euro(360)gamer to prove that they're 360 fanboys.

    Darn that data-driven analysis disagreeing with my assumptions and vested interests' opinions. Facts are for fools.


    Graphical differences (not noticed any myself) mean shit

    Pixel resolution might not be quite so noticeable if you've got a poor display, or are sat far away from a good one; but refresh rate (i.e. the smoothness of movement) should be visible even if output is set to SD, 30fps is very jerky compared to 60fps.

    Sadly for some these Eurogamer technical comparisons of what the consoles are actually rendering -- not what their marketing departments spout -- shines a bright light of technical analysis into the dark corners of true real-world capabilities of the systems.

    The whole points of these articles is "graphical differences", if you don't like it don't read them; personally as a graphics whore PC owner I find the technical performance differences between these two consoles very interesting, especially when it is contrasted with the corporate PR surrounding each product.

  • zooms #119 3 years ago

    The saying "put a quart into a pint pot" spring to mind. The quart is what the 360 can do, the pint is what the PS3 can do. Leading on 360 means developers are trying to "put a quart into a pint pot", leading on the PS3 means developers are doing the simpler thing of "put a pint into a quart pot"

  • kazumA82 #120 3 years ago

    I see M$ is still sending the cheques.

    What a joke this site has become.

  • Calgon #121 3 years ago

    "Btw I own all 3 current gen systems, I'm just sick of all this biased fanboy nonsense, exclusives FTW.

    @Gamer G.

    You're mate is an idiot.     "

    LOL thats priceless :D, proves a point about alot of fanboys who use the "I own one" excuse when trolling around EG discussions too.

    edit: For those too lazy to backtrack Wingzerosys is angry because Gamer Gs mate chose a 360 over a PS3 with Multiplatform comparisons swaying it for them... a perfectly understandable decision to the rational person.
    Edited by 1 at 27/09/08 @ 23:13

  • Vic #122 3 years ago

    @ Calgon

    We all know you're pro-360. Every time anything negative about the PS3 pops up, you jump straight on it, yet I have NEVER heard you say anything positive about the PS3.

    We all know you hate the PS3, so how we can we take what you say seriously? A lot of people dont want a 360 regardless of the better mulitplatform games, since the hardware is unreliable, and many of the exclusives can be bought on the PC.

    You could also argue that the best PS3

  • Vic #123 3 years ago

    @ Calgon

    We all know you're pro-360. Every time anything negative about the PS3 pops up, you jump straight on it, yet I have NEVER heard you say anything positive about the PS3 because you dislike Sony's design decisions.

    We all know you hate the PS3, so how we can we take what you say seriously? A lot of people dont want a 360 regardless of the better mulitplatform games, since the hardware is unreliable, and many of the exclusives can be bought on the PC.

    You could also argue that the best PS3 games are more technically impressive than their 360 counterparts. Uncharted, GT Proplogue, MGS4 and Killzone 2 next year are amongst the best console games technically ever seen. Only Gears comes close on the 360.

  • drumbaby #124 3 years ago

    Next time you think "Lazy Developers", maybe you should instead think "Shortsighted Sony".

    Well, we all seem to like a sprint around here, that's for sure.

    Quick memo: Kill off the 360 next year, it's probably time for the next one, Msoft.

  • wingzerosys #125 3 years ago

    @Calgon.

    "Excuse." What excuse? I do own all 3 and hardly find any differences between both versions.

    Like I said, there is no way one console (360) can win a flawless victory over the other (PS3), not even the graphically superior SNES or Xbox could win everytime.

    If you've read the latest face-off, you'll know that EG expected this to happen in the comments.

    What's wrong with IGN and GFaqs comparisons, not biased/fanboys enough?

    If idiots like Gamer G's mate listen to euro(360)gamer, hardly anyone would buy a PS3.

    The only reason I visit this site is for gaming news/previews (and sometimes the Thread), they've lost all my respect after all this comparisons bullshit and there reviews are going downhill too.

    I always look elsewhere for comparisons and I usually compare them myself, none of this biased fanboy nonsense for me thanks, all 3 consoles are great.

  • Calgon #126 3 years ago

    I do prefer 360 Vic thats not the point my point is there is alot of trolls even if its true... state "I own a 360" as if that makes what they say any less biased, missleading or trollish.

    You could also argue that the best PS3 games are more technically impressive than their 360 counterparts. Uncharted, GT Proplogue, MGS4 and Killzone 2 next year are amongst the best console games technically ever seen. Only Gears comes close on the 360.

    Thats not really true from visual perspective at all and its impossible to do a fair comparisons I dont know why people dont think it through just because they dont like what they see here. Some obvious reasons why its not a good way to compare is:

    a) We dont get told exactly whats going on onscreen more often than not and devs almost always twist the truth to big up their acheivements(apart from the odd one or two).

    b) Different engines, different assets, different dev teams, different budgets, different timescales = What were you thinking? If you think multiplatform is hard to compare fairly then this is a huge leap in the wrong direction... its a far less accurate way.

    The PS3 games you mention look nice enough but you are taking the piss with the "only gears on the 360 comes close to these" comment, pure bullshit even some third party games are comparable to some of the games in that list of yours. Personally I think GT5 will be one of the best looking PS3 games when it launches but doing so without necessarily being the most accomplished(although if they manage 1080p at 60fps without tearing or slowdown thats some acheivement in itself but we know the RSX is less able to handle high resolutions at stable framerates than Xenos so will be pulling every trick in the book to make that happen = looks nice but doesnt prove anything... as with GT4). Killzone2 I dont really know, with the amount of money Sony have poured into its developement you'd think it will turn out looking spectacular(and will be refered to as a tech demo by the rival fanboys... a la GOW) but Im not really convinced with that team after the first game they made... they tried to make a tech demo in a way for PS2 but once it came out after all that hype about how good it looks... it was sooo easy to see behind the seems (fogging, poor draw distance... really I dont beleive it was up there with the leading games on PS2 at the time... it had already been exceeded by the time it came out on its technical merits)
    Edited by 2 at 28/09/08 @ 04:05

  • Calgon #127 3 years ago

    wingzerosys fine be in denial then... you purposefully ignored my reasons why IGNs and Gamespots comparisons dont even come close to being as accurate as Eurogamers make an arguement for why you dispute this atleast instead of just saying "because they are biased ****s" Ive pointed out why they really ARE the most accurate out of the major gamesite comparisons offered.

    If you'd have made a proper arguement then maybe people wouldnt beleive you are a raving PS3 fanboy; angry because 360 is performing better... it really is as far as multiplatform titles go but are the differences that significant for the majority of them? No EG havent been bashing the PS3 at all like you make out theyve been reporting the facts the pictures and videos provided with these articles are the source of their findings and yes they are far more accurate than Gametrailers...

    Be fair youve been running around trying to convince people on gametrailers that the PS3 version has the edge on some of these titles havent you? lol

    Snes and Xbox were totally different generations means nothing are you one of those people who cry "Cheater" online when someone gives you a pasting because "theres no way its possible"... the only reason you think that is because you are not ready to accept it.

    Its just a poor arguement, you could have said "they only pick the ones 360 wins for the comparisons" but there really hasnt been many that you could give the PS3 the edge in, thats just the way its panned out with PS3 playing catch up... so no there is no bias here, is it all important? No it shouldnt be the single reason to buy a console either but what you did was call someone stupid for preferring the 360 as their choice this could well have just been one of many factors they were weighing up and it really is true the majority of multiplatform titles recently have been pretty much the same on whichever console you buy it for the most part but if youd have to give the technical edge to either version(whether instantly noticable to the average gamer or not) its been the 360s more often than not.
    Edited by 1 at 28/09/08 @ 04:06

  • Kryon #128 3 years ago

    "You're mate is an idiot for deciding to get a 360 after reading EG's biased comparisons"

    OMG! You're so f***ing right man! What kind of an utter dickhead would buy a 360 simply because it's the better gaming system and is less than half the price of the other option? What a f***ing c***!!!!

    I'd never buy a 360, I mean just coz it's the best option for gamers at the moment and the most fairly priced, so f***ing what? F*** you lot! F*** all your mums to, innit!!!!

    If my mate bought a 360 simply because it's a better games system and more reasonably priced, I'd f***ing stab that stupid c*** in the f***ing eye with a rusty hack saw FFS, what a cock end, I'd eat his heart and napalm his family if he even thought about doing that!!! F***ing c*** he is!

  • IronCladChicken #129 3 years ago

    @noface
    Maybe it already has?!?!?!?

    @Kryon
    Ł75 for the Blu-Ray upgrade (where I dun got my blu-ray from)
    That is all.

  • #130 3 years ago

    @Calgon.

    Mate I wont argue with you, you do seem to know your stuff. I own both consoles and tbh, i find the exclusives on the PS3 to look way better than anything on xb360. I mean even R2 looks better than GOW2. And if the 360 is more capable than the ps3 then why has there been 40man multi player games on it and now thats being raised to 60 with R2 and soon to 256 with Mag. Even Killzone 2 looks in a different league to anything on 360, tho how it plays will be a different matter.

    I guess what Im asking is, " if the Ps3 is so ham strung technically then why is it pushing the graphical fidelity of games further than the 360?". ( IMHO games wise, cos the best looking game on 360 for me is still GOW1 ).

    /not looking to argue, just discussing :)

  • #131 3 years ago

    I see. Thanks Jizz.

    Btw I think MS is the biggest liars in the industry, to a tune of 1billion dollars, that and dumping the xb1 overnight.


    /yes im not bitter at all lol.

  • #132 3 years ago

    Well truth be told Ive never owned a Sony console before my recent ps3. And before that, my 360 died, had months of bother with it.

    But im open to all sides of the argument. Ive read many a story about Sonys ps2 being just as troublesome. Im not into brands myself, but I did find the RROD thing particular shocking, and how a company could get away with this in this day and age and how so many people could still come to support MS in spite of this.

    Then the damage may not be apparent until the next console from MS comes, then who knows?

  • #133 3 years ago

    I def agree m8, Ms has pioneered alot of great innovations both software and hardware.

  • zooms #134 3 years ago

    Here is what Sony's bullshit and hyperbole was able to do to a supposedley objective industry journalist.

    Rob's Take On The PS3

    The article is so far off the mark it's almost unbelievable.
    Edited by 1 at 28/09/08 @ 13:22

  • BillyBrush #135 3 years ago

    Hedbog,

    why moan about people spouting biased bile on the internet, everyone has eyes, they can read and see your toys going out of the pram on a regular basis...it's really really odd to see people complain about bias and blindly following something on an article where they're basically going nuts because EG got a load of good equipment to fairly test multiplat games...if their comparisons are lies game publishers can sue them for misinformation, can't they?

  • Kryon #136 3 years ago

    hedbog is a chubby little 13 year old boy with a lisp who has sexual fantasies about 'Ekth-Bot-th' and repeatedly jizzes in his own face every time someone mentions Bill Gates. His SDF persona is just a way to try and stop people clocking on to his deep sexual desires towards Bill and the dreaded Ekth-Bot-th.

    He's obviously a paranoid schizophrenic too.

  • wingzerosys #137 3 years ago

    @Calgon.

    Don't you ever compare me to you and eg again, if I'm a *so called* PS3 fanboy, why is it I bought SW:TFU and BIA:HH on the 360?

    Why would I even bother playing on the 360? Why would I buy multiplats on the 360?
    Just because you and eg are biased fanboy idiots doesn't make me be a fanboy too.

    Like I keep saying, even if the 360 version is *supposedly* better, there is no fucking way it could win everytime.

    We have established that you hate the PS3 and are indeed a 360 fanboy, PS3 exclusives could (I'm not sure) look better than nearly all the 360 exclusives, they do indeed look better than GoW, which isn't graphically better than everything, like people make it out to be.

    If everyone (like you're idiotic friend) listens to what eg say, hardly anyone would buy a PS3, but alas they are.

    I'm sorry for repeating myself but it seems I'm not getting through to some people, maybe they are blind rabid fanboys.

  • wingzerosys #138 3 years ago

    I was waiting for an idiot to call me a fanboy, it turns out Calgon was that idiot.

    I hate MS (so what), I saw a programme about them, they literally pissed me off, but love the Xbox, I'm on (I think) my 7th, 1 core, 4-5 premiums and now an Elite, traded in the core for a premium, kept having trouble with them, bought an Elite and got rid of my last premium.

    Hardware wise the Xbox is a pos, I've been through about 5 original Xbox's.

    I'm not even a Sony fanboy, what they did to Nintendo pissed me off.

    Never had trouble with a PS1 and only had trouble with one PS2 (I had it chipped), I've only ever had trouble with one Nintendo console (Wii), the Disc drive broke.

    I'm a Gamer not a console loyalist loving freak, I play games, I play exclusives on each system, I buy more multiplats for the 360, I some on the PS3, I see no difference to a lot of the games, even the developers acknowledge that.

    Are the devs lying? Wouldn't they be in shit for doing that? Someone is lying.
    Edited by 1 at 28/09/08 @ 17:39

  • Calgon #139 3 years ago

    DaemonB R2 doesnt even look as good as GOW2 have you actually seen the latest footage of R2? I dont know where you get that from at all I was pretty underwhelmed with R2s gameplay footage and judging by the comments on EG Im not the only one. To be fair though I understand that they are going for different goals with R2(has to work online with 40+ players).

    Killzone2 so far is equal to GOW2 at best and after the first game I think a close examination is in order to see if you can spot the engines flaws like you could in the first game.

    I guess what Im asking is, " if the Ps3 is so ham strung technically then why is it pushing the graphical fidelity of games further than the 360?". ( IMHO games wise, cos the best looking game on 360 for me is still GOW1 ).

    There arent any PS3 games pushing graphical fidelity further than 360 though, whether you prefer the look of some PS3 games is subjective(which is fine enjoy them) thats what you should have said... graphical fidelity on the other hand is a different matter, as thats GPU related and we know Xenos is stronger than RSX why hold your breath for it? Thats not where the PS3s strengths will show if they are going to at all... physics (which again I strongly doubt) might be a stronger arguement but theres no evidence to support this advantage in any of PS3s existing portfolio and the upcoming ones we've seen so far either.

    Now what Ive been pointing out is that so far things have been pointing to 360 edging it in realworld performance GOW2 matches or exceeds anything you want to put up against it for PS3 on its technical merrits and its visuals; up against games that have had far longer dev cycles and more money thrown at them, I think it says alot for 360s potential too. Its a good system(soon to be great if jasper finally brings 360s reliability inline with the competition) one that many, Sony included underestimated leading up until launch. Does this mean PS3 is crap or "not in the same league" no I personally think theres not much in it but 360 edges it.

    What all of this does is dispell the myth about PS3 being more powerfull or to some deluded Sony Fanboys "In another league" at this point in time(2-3 years in... longer in dev terms) its just not looking likely, even a system thats more difficult to program for would be showing its advantage by now and it really hasnt in any regard except storage space.

    Whats so bad about 360 being the slightly better gaming machine? Why is it so hard to accept? Why must that statement be spun into an attack on PS3 or Sony every time?

    Heres a pro PS3 statement from me then, I think PS3 has better multimedia capabilities as things are, its quieter so better suited for it and it plays pretty much anything you throw at it, including Blu-Ray. It all depends what your priorities are really, every console has its advantages so far... its just Sony fanboys try and claim them all even where its not true... thats just missleading.
    Edited by 1 at 28/09/08 @ 17:41

  • Kryon #140 3 years ago

    wingzerosys, we all know Calgon is pro 360 but he does actually use logic to back his opinions instead of bullshit like yourself. The 360 versions of 'practically' all multi-plat games are better, I know it because I've compared for myself, you know it too, it's fact mate. In most cases it's no big deal and as others have said, you generally will pick the version that has a certain feature you want i.e. Darth Vader in SCIV or you'll pick the one with the best pad for the certain genre of game you're playing. In my case that means I tend to go for the PS pad for fighters but the 360 pad for FPS and driving games. Just stop with the utter bollocks you're talking, you make as much sense as anal sex with Barrymore when he's got the runs.
    Edited by 1 at 28/09/08 @ 17:43

  • Waldo #141 3 years ago

    I guess console gamers can be just as much graphics whores as PC gamers, even though most of them always like to claim that they play games for "fun" not "graphics."

    But please, don't let me interrupt your pixel-counting war. ;)

  • Calgon #142 3 years ago

    wingzerosys You big idiot! ;)... yes MS have their shady history, but so do Nintendo and Sony... especially Sony(MS screwed over their competitors to win in the past... Sony screw over their consumers to win and they think they are somehow special its that arrogant "we are Sony, we own gaming so we do what we want!" attitude, the way they go on they'd tell their fans they invented gaming if they could get away with it.).

    Why pretend supporting any company over the other is a more noble choice then? Frankly I find that STUPID and really you are only fooling yourself into beleiving that rubbish.
    Edited by 5 at 28/09/08 @ 18:51

  • wingzerosys #143 3 years ago

    Why is that IGN and GT say one version looks/plays better (say the PS3 version ) and eg says the other one? 2 against one.

    So only eg have this super comparison technology? Did they make it? Patent it? Why are they to be trusted when the others aren't? Why do I always get different outcomes? Why is it only eg that favours the 360 all the time, that they have to give it 14-0?

    Yes GTA IV looks better on the 360, but not every single game does.

    Who do I sue, as I got DMC 4, Burnout:paradise, Dark Sector, BF:BC, Army of Two and SC4 on the PS3 due to *supposedly* being identical, I was robbed according to eg.

  • Kryon #144 3 years ago

    wingzerosys, didn't you read the link a few posts up provided by zooms, go and read it right now and then come back and tell me that EG has some kind of pre-baked bias against Sony. Don't be so naive.

    <a href=http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59134&g t;Read it and then SHHhhhh!</a>

  • wingzerosys #145 3 years ago

    I never said I support one company over the other, you're talking shit now.

    @Kyron, go back to sucking Calgons prick, you seem to love him that much, especially seeing as he supposedly knows what he's talking about and your both 360 fanboys.

    What bullshit? I've told my side of the story, no bullshit here.

  • Kryon #146 3 years ago

    LOL, wingzerosys just sent me this private message:

    I don't really care about console wars, I just want a bit of hard cock, that's why I'm trying to wind calgon and you up, it's the only way I can get another mans attention, pleases don't take offence at the things I say, I just want some hard cock baby

    Are you serious, you fucking weirdo?

  • wingzerosys #147 3 years ago

    That proves nothing, that has nothing to do with comparing the games, both IGN and Gamespot said SW:TFU looks graphically better but more prone to glitches.

    EG will again favour the 360's version, this time it will be 15-0, every god damn comparison they do will favour the 360.

    That is what I find to be a load of shit, no fanboyism about it.

  • wingzerosys #148 3 years ago

    Wtf, do you want to get modded Kyron?

    You are being childish and immature, the mods will know I never sent you a pm, nice try but you failed.

    Whilst I so called sent that pm, I was writing on here, I give you 0/10 for effort.

  • Kryon #149 3 years ago

    Modded? Listen sonny, if mods cared about people talking shit in the comments section, you'd have been booted ages ago. Besides, you did just ask me for some sweet gay loving so don't deny it elton.

  • wingzerosys #150 3 years ago

    I'm not talking shit nor have I ever sent you a private message.

    You are an idiot and sick for coming up with such bullshit, I've pm'd a mod has what you've done is the lowest of the low, I've never had anyone make up a fake pm before, its pathetic.

    My argument was with Calgon until you butted in and started defending him.

    Why did you go through all that trouble of making everyone think I sent you a message? Are you attention seeking? Is their something seriously wrong with you?

    Why anyone would make that up is beyond me, thats something I could never do.
    Edited by 1 at 28/09/08 @ 18:29

  • Kryon #151 3 years ago

    You're kinda easy to wind up, aren't you. Maybe you should consider getting one of those things called a "life". By the way, after you went crying to a mod, did you also run screaming into your mothers bosom like a scared little boy?

  • Kryon #152 3 years ago

    Nice edit on your post, so you decided to delete the part where you called me a f***ing c*** sucking retard. I'm glad, that was a bit below the belt tbh.

  • wingzerosys #153 3 years ago

    No, I don't appreciate being accused of something I haven't said or done, even if it was *supposedly* a wind-up, I can fight my own battles thanks.

    And you wonder why I pm'd a mod, you're coming out with things I have never even said, its pathetic and immature.

    I have a life thanks, what do you call living? Being dead? I admit I'm easy to wind up but I can still have a laugh.

    What you have done isn't called having a laugh, its called being immature.
    Edited by 2 at 28/09/08 @ 18:39

  • Kryon #154 3 years ago

    I think you are probably very young so I will stop picking on you. Good day sir.

  • wingzerosys #155 3 years ago

    I'm older than you think, what you wrote was uncalled for and something a child or mental person would do.

    I've put you on ignore so I don't have to deal with your shit.

    Sorry guys, back on topic.

    I google the internet to find comparisons on both versions, if more than one person says one version looks better than the other then I'll buy that.

    EG say they use RBG, well I use HDMI for my comparisons, I find the best person to trust is yourself, if you can, compare them yourself.

    I just cannot trust Eurogamers comparisons, they always favour one console whilst all the other sites favour different one's.

    If the other sites kept a score, it wouldn't be say 14-0, it'd be something like 10-5 in favour of the 360, which we know *USUALLY* gets the better version.

    I wonder which version eg would prefer if MGS 4 got ported to the 360? My guess would be the 360.

  • Kryon #156 3 years ago

    "I'm older than you think"

    So you're 12 and not 9 then, sorry, my mistake.

  • ThePissartist #157 3 years ago

    lol@Kryon

    Nice one mate, v funny. :)

  • Calgon #158 3 years ago

    wingzerosys EG dont patent the equipment but its expensive and neither Gamespots or GTs methods are as exact or fair... this "2 against one so Im right" arguement is immature and ignorrant. Infact you are just going to stay in denial about it.

    EGs footage and screens tell the story on their own(argue with that you fool, take a look and see for yourself)... Richard then summarises for the comparison articles naturally. If anything it shows bias from other sources because they arent accurate.

    No doubt you will again repeat the same arguements Ive defeated already all over again, so Id like to say this discussion is over as I wont waste any more time on it.

    The fact is these are THE most accurate comparisons compare the footage from the sources which contradict it and tell me thats not the case. I will the have to call you liar or an idiot if you do though.

    EDIT: No its not "RBG" its RGB and its not "RGB scart" if thats what you are thinking, read it properly before arguing with it... The captures are the highest quality available from each machine(full RGB and 24bit precision = the amount of colours being displayed) so theres no arguements about what screen they were using either(unlike some other comparisons available) because its direct from console to the device as outputed from the framebuffer of each machine.
    Edited by 1 at 28/09/08 @ 19:16

  • wingzerosys #159 3 years ago

    I just find it strange that Eurogamer have said the 360 version is better everytime, surely the PS3 should have some that are either identical or a few that are better.

    But in Eg's case, they don't.

    Then the developers owe me money, seeing as (according to Eg) I've bought the inferior versions.

    I mean't RGB, infact I didn't realise I spelt it wrong, I'm not a techy so I didn't understand them when they said RGB.

    To me it seems you take Eg's word with a grain of salt and dismiss everyone else's comparisons, whilst I'm the latter.

    For that reason, none can be trusted and its better to compare them yourself.
    Edited by 4 at 28/09/08 @ 19:23

  • Kryon #160 3 years ago

    Cry me a river.

  • Calgon #161 3 years ago

    There are some that are pretty much identical though COD4, Burnout, Oblivion(I think they even gave that to PS3 but there was a year between each version and the differences where slight).

    There are over 10 games in this round so even if there were some that were even it would still be a "14-0"... I hope you realise thats just a wind up by members here to rile up Sony Fanboys that plague the comments... thats not EG.

  • wingzerosys #162 3 years ago

    So are the games I listed identical? They look it to me.

    Besides, I hardly see a difference between the Mercs 2 pic, one looks slightly brighter.

    Actually, that's really all I see between comparisons, the brightness/contrast differences.

  • Melan #163 3 years ago

    Dont know why I read these posts? Maybe is this fanboy fight intertainment in some kind off perverted way?

  • Calgon #164 3 years ago

    @Wingzerosys

    Well he certainly isnt making anything up, the footage matches everything he says... perhaps they could annotate the key areas of the screens/footage in future which show the differences most in say lighting, aliasing, texture detail, reflections ect. It sounds like you dont think these small differences matter too much or dont notice them(doesnt mean others can't though) and you are happy enough with the PS3 version more often than not... thats fine, EG are just comparing the differences, they arent bashing the PS3.

    Funnily enough though thats one difference thats most obvious with the brightness and contrast... PS3s frames looked more washed out... thats less detail btw, 360s are richer and have more contrast.
    Edited by 2 at 28/09/08 @ 19:40

  • wingzerosys #165 3 years ago

    I do care about the differences, why else would I sound pissed off? Other than Kyron pissing me off.

    I bought some PS3 versions due to what I heard/read, that some are better or identical to the 360 version.
    Plus the fact I own nearly 3 times more games on the 360 so I want to buy more for the PS3.

    I bought the PS3 version of SC4 for a few reasons, Darth Vader, PS3 d-pad, identical graphics (which I'm now hearing they aren't).

    I own both versions of GTA IV and out of a lot of multiplats, that is the only one (which I can see) that looks better on the 360.
    Edited by 1 at 28/09/08 @ 19:51

  • Calgon #166 3 years ago

    The irony in that post is unbeleivable... Sony are the kings of hype(I thought of naming it the 'Hypestation 3' after that first E3 outing and the press' reactions to it, EG included ) and their fanboys like hedbog eat it up... they will never beable to accept the realities of it all, even after this gen is done with and devs are on the next they will find a way not to beleive it if 360 is indeed still edging it or to blame developers not having enough time or being too lazy ect.

    Hedbog trolls 360 sections daily, a PS3 fanboy... obsessed with trying to prove to the world that PS3 and Sony are the best thing ever and all that is Xbox is crap(attacking those that dissagree or point out his errors, since he is often completely wrong and spreading missinformation)... a true credit to the image of todays gamers really he is. :/

  • Kryon #167 3 years ago

    @hedknob

    "The only irony round here is that fanboys like Calgon and Cry-on lap up MS hype bullshit"

    What hype? I believe the 360 to be a better choice (if you can only afford one system, like yourself) because the majority of multi-format games are superior, the price is more reasonable and MS have bought out many of Sony's important/system selling titles, such as FFXIII, Resident Evil 5, DMC4, GTAIV, etc, etc.

    These are facts, not hype. The only nonces who seem to be into believing hype are people like yourself and wingzy, furiously jizzing in your panties in anticipation of this amazing 'untapped' power that will never materialize.
    Edited by 1 at 29/09/08 @ 01:17

  • wingzerosys #168 3 years ago

    Calgon doesn't seem to be bad, even if he does agree with everything EG say.

    Kyron on the other hand is a different story, he made out I sent him a private message and even wrote out what I supposedly sent him. that was uncalled for, totally unnecessary and I have never ever seen anyone do what he did before.

    Even if it was a wind-up, it still proves he has a mental problem, to totally make up a private message just isn't normal.

    I pm'd a mod because they can prove that I never even sent him a message, they can prove what an idiotic liar he is and infact I have ever only pm'd 3 people.

    Like I keep saying, yes more so than not 360 multiplats are better than PS3s, there's no way in hell they are 100% better every single time, that is why I call EGs comparisons bullshit biased 360 fanboys.

    I'm not loyal to either M$ (I put the $ because they're greedy fuckers) or Sony, I've always been loyal to Nintendo, even if they do supposedly hate europe.

  • wingzerosys #169 3 years ago

    Cont...

    Like I keep saying (I've had to keep repeating myself) I play games, I own all 3 consoles due to exclusives, not to love them in any other way, they're just hardware made by a certain company and are used for entertainment purposes.

    I use the PS3 to browse the internet, to play games and watch movies. Does that make me a PS3 fanboy? It shouldn't do.

    I've been playing on the 360 more often, am I a 360 fanboy because of it? I cannot see why I should be.

    My Wii is gathering dust due to being unplayed for awhile, does that make me more loyal to M$ & Sony? I can't see why it should.

    As you can see, they're only companies who make the hardware and are also involved in the software side (not much though), I buy there systems and games, not because of loyalty, but because of there gaming systems/exclusives.

    Infact I sometimes favour a console over the other, may it be the 360, PS3, Wii, DS, or PSP, it doesn't make me a fanboy because of it, it just depends what I play on the most at that time etc.
    Edited by 2 at 29/09/08 @ 02:57

  • Kryon #170 3 years ago

    Kyron on the other hand is a different story, he made out I sent him a private message and even wrote out what I supposedly sent him. that was uncalled for, totally unnecessary and I have never ever seen anyone do what he did before.

    BooHoo! The nathty man towd evewyone about me thending him homothexual pms, now evewybody knowth my thecret, waaa! How couwd anyone be tho cwuel! Ith the motht cwuelest thing on the internet ever! :'(

    Seriously though, get over it.

    I pm'd a mod because they can prove that I never even sent him a message, they can prove what an idiotic liar he is and infact I have ever only pm'd 3 people.

    LOLLERSKATES! yeah, quick you should call Hercule Poirot and Sherlock Holmes as well to help unravel the 'mystery of the gay pm' just to be sure you can be absolved of any guilt... Seriously now, are you for real mate? Jesus H. Christ, Get over it and harden the fuck up.

  • rotmm #171 3 years ago

    @wingzerosys: "I'm not loyal to either M$ (I put the $ because they're greedy fuckers) or Sony, I've always been loyal to Nintendo, even if they do supposedly hate europe."

    And $onĄ (see what I did there?) aren't.

  • Kryon #172 3 years ago

    wingzerosys is at school now so probably can't reply until lunch/home time. Mmm, Frubes, Dairylea sammich and a Penguin biscuit bar for his lunch today, gotta keep that strength up for a good evenings trolling on any recent 360 related articles!

  • menage #173 3 years ago

    I wonder why these comparisons focus on graphics, online play, installations, etc and forget that the pS3 controler kicks 360 ass in the gameplay dep. The only reason why I bought it on PS3 instead of 360 was the d-pad on 360 sucks major ass.

  • Kryon #174 3 years ago

    I wonder why these comparisons focus on graphics, online play, installations, etc and forget that the pS3 controler kicks 360 ass in the gameplay dep

    1- Different pads for different genres/types of game.

    2- The majority of modern games aren't majorly reliant on the d-pad, so that would mean the 360 pad is superior in general for modern gaming,

    3- This article is not called "Joypad Face-Off: Round 14"

    4- Which pad you prefer is a matter of opinion, most (non-fanboy) gamers are of the opinion that the 360 pad is superior in general but does suffer a pretty bad d-pad.

    5- Many games that are reliant on the d-pad (like fighters) are better played with a joy-stick anyway.

  • stevethemeat #175 3 years ago

    agree that the ps3 pad is far superior for fighting games, but not so for driving or games where dual stick control is needed, they are too damn close together.

  • rotmm #176 3 years ago

    I wonder why these comparisons focus on graphics, online play, installations, etc and forget that the 360 controler kicks ps3 ass in the gameplay dep. The only reason why I bought it on 360 instead of PS3 was the ergonomics, triggers and dual analogue placement on the PS3 sucks major ass.

    See what I did there?

  • canIdoyabombsforya #177 3 years ago

    Keep these articles coming, a great service to the gaming community! To think the Dreamcast may not have had an early death if EG had done these Face offs 8 odd years ago! A Dreamcast 2 would have pissed all over the overhyped mess that is the current Gen.
    Maybe Sony will now give up the bullshit that tries to stop us gamers enjoying other consoles? (consider how many console gamers missed out on VGA and keyboard/mouse goodness *almost a decade ago* because of those lying fuckheads)

  • Kryon #178 3 years ago

    Arbiter, try using Google (it's very useful), read a few gaming forums/articles/views of the general gaming public. You will find your proof right there.

  • amcd28 #179 3 years ago

    @ hedbog

    Will you please check your spelling before you post?

    Drives me mental everytime I see you've posted, because it will contain some sort of spelling or grammatical error.

    Plus, you're a mongwit. Of monumental proportions.

    Ok, I could put you on ignore, but I like reminding myself that the general public are basically extremely stupid.

    Anyway, back on track. Stop whining all of those 'but, but, but PS3 and teh cellz are da best in da yooniverses'. If it was, then it would bloody win one of these face-offs.

    Like the machine myself and the features it has; but Christ Almighty, just because you prefer it to 360, don't tell me it's the best. I can make my own mind up.

    Yours,

    Pedantic of Surbiton

  • Kryon #180 3 years ago

    He really doesnt get the burdon of rpoof thing does he.

    Are you really that retarded? Arbiter asked for proof of peoples opinions (which is a bit retarded in itself), so I told him to go and read peoples opinions first hand. Understand now, brain-master? I suppose I could have provided a link to Google but I didn't think it necessary as Arbiter doesn't seem quite as mentally inept as yourself.

    Also, amcd28 is correct. You can't even type a coherent sentence. Just in that one line of text I've quoted above, you've made four errors. That's pretty sad considering the sentence only contains eleven words...

  • Kryon #181 3 years ago

    Actually, I may have misunderstood what you where trying to say. When you say "He really doesnt get the burdon of r poof thing ", are you trying to say that Arbiter and yourself are burdened by the taboo homosexual desires you have for each other? I'm not sure now.

  • amcd28 #182 3 years ago

    @ Kyron

    I think he's globalising.

    r poof, your poof. Everybody's poof.

    And we all need a little poof in our lives. Just ask the Great Soprendo....

  • Kryon #183 3 years ago

    @amcd28

    LOL, I guess you're right, and hedbog is definitely a little poof, so I guess it all works out fine in the end :D

  • darc #184 3 years ago

    I'm now certain these articles are not pointless. Half of you could save thousands of dollars and a few years work by bringing the comments section to the attention of your therapists.

    Good lord EG prints up some simple numbers - empirical, irrefutable - and people manage to a) dismiss the facts, and b) take it personally.

    Whatever the PS3/XBox can do, here's what they presently do. End of story. As noted, it's a negligible difference, and it doesn't reflect on anyone's personal merit anyway. Until they start replying in the comments section anyway...

  • Kryon #185 3 years ago

    Yeah, come on guys, stop taking the poss now.

  • wingzerosys #186 3 years ago

    I see Kyron's still trolliing, oh well its not like I can see what he's saying, I've already proven what an immature idiotic person he is.

    @rottm.

    Another idiot who dismisses my posts, its thanks to people like you why I have to keep repeating myself.

    I AM NOT LOYAL TO SONY OR MICROSOFT, IF I'M LOYAL TO ANYONE IT WOULD BE NINTENDO.

    I WATCHED A PROGRAMME ABOUT M$ AND THEY"RE GREED COPYING FUCKER'S, THUS MY REASON FOR THIS $.

    ALSO YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT I SAID ABOUT SONY, WHAT THEY DID TO NINTENDO AND THEY ALSO GOT SUED BY THEM, OK THE LATTER BIT I ADDED ON.

    I'm sorry guys but I have to keep repeating myself, so I thought It'd be best if I make it clearer for them to see.

    I am used to all 3 controllers, imo the DS3 is slightly better than the 360's, due to rumble (ok so 360 has that), motion control, rechargable battery and better d-pad.

    The 360 pad imo has better triggers for fps and racing, whilst the DS3 is better for action adventurers, platformers and fighting games.

  • Kryon #187 3 years ago

    I love it when people pretend to ignore me. You go girl!

  • amcd28 #188 3 years ago

    @ hedbog

    Thanks for clarifying.

    You say you're badly educated. Take it you underwent your schooling in the UK then?

    Mmmm. Two of the brightest people I know have dyslexia, so don't hide behind that as a reason for the sentence irregularities I've seen.

    Still think your PS3 'superiority' complex makes you a mong. It is and always will be a box of electronics.

  • amcd28 #189 3 years ago

    Oh. And I'm Scottish. From Glasgow.

    So English isn't my first language.

    Belligerent mumbling is...

    :¬)

  • Kryon #190 3 years ago

    @Hedbag

    Boohoo, I'm just a poorly educated Lithuanian immigrant with dyslexia, boohoo, waaa! :'(

    HAHAHAaaa, Seriously, how do any of those things equate to being a fuckhead like you? Don't go trying to give sob stories to make us feel sorry for you, this isn't the X-Factor, so it won't help. It just makes you look even more damp, like a little fat girls panties after she's wet herself.

    To be fair, I don't believe a word of it anyway. You spout so many lies that I take everything you say with a pinch of salt. I reckon you're just some chubby 13 year old council estate chav who owns a PS3 and never learnt how to read or write.

  • ochinembiri #191 3 years ago

    Sony need to lower the price of the PSŁ to appeal to a wider market and that way there will be a larger customer base. Xbox 360 has a higher attachment rate than the PSŁ and so the game developers know where more of their money comes from and hence the "bias" towards the xbox. If you consider that the PSŁ has a superior processor it is out right laziness that game developers are not making games better on the PSŁ. Now with the xbox cheaper than the wii and outselling the PSŁ 2:1 in the run up to the crucial period I can see the EA's getting even lazier. I think if you have either consoles you are doing ok, between me and my housemate we have both an xbox and PSŁ and on as 22" hdtv there is little difference on cross platform games. The games that stand out are on PSŁ: GT IV prologue and Uncharted and on the xbox: Bioshock and Crackdown, it will be interesting if they were cross platform how they would compare, we will see how Biochock comes out on the PSŁ.

  • hello_fi #192 3 years ago

    bundle!

  • captainrentboy #193 3 years ago

    ''Kyron on the other hand is a different story, he made out I sent him a private message and even wrote out what I supposedly sent him. that was uncalled for, totally unnecessary and I have never ever seen anyone do what he did before.''

    Holy shit, I've never seen someone take such offense to one of those lil internet pranks. I used to do things like that all the time, waaay back in the days of Lycos Chat, I was like 15, but hey it's darned funny in an immature way :)
    Going by the gigantic over reaction I have a feeling someone's a massive homophobe...
    Edited by 1 at 04/10/08 @ 13:46

  • SilentScream #194 3 years ago

    [link url=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5HvdRfUmoqQ&feature=relat ed
    ]http://uk .youtube.com/watch?v=5HvdRfUmoq...[/link]

    Hopefully Eurogamer is doing this! ^