Xbox 360 outsells PS3 in Japan

By Tom Bramwell Published 19 August, 2008

For a week, anyway.

Xbox 360 outsold PlayStation 3 in Japan by more than two to one in the week ending 10th August, according Ascii Media Works and Media Create.

AFP reports the AMW figures as 28,116 Xbox 360s sold and 10,705 PS3s, although it notes that both systems lagged behind Wii, which accounted for 41,044 sales.

Meanwhile, Media-Create's latest stats also point to a 360 mini-victory - quoting 24,962 Xbox 360 sales and 9,673 of PS3, with the Wii surging ahead by their estimation too.

As for why, Microsoft's good fortune can be linked to sales of Namco's exclusive Tales of Vesperia - currently number four in the Japanese charts with over 100,000 sales reported.

Let us not forget, however, that Afrika is finally released for PS3 in Japan on 28th August, at which point it is GAME OVER for all other videogame consoles. Or do you want to fight a rhino? Do you, other consoles?

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About Tom Bramwell

Tom is Operations director of Eurogamer Network and Editor-at-Large of Eurogamer.net. He joined the company in February 2000.

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  • Vice.Destroyer #1 4 years ago

    No comment.

  • kyotokid #2 4 years ago

    Fight!, Fight for those scraps!

  • afghan_jones #3 4 years ago

    bloody hell, never really thought that would happen.

  • chris_ace #4 4 years ago

    Post deleted at 11:55:13 13-12-2011

  • Whatsfor #5 4 years ago

    Afrika will really be that big in Japan? Why?

  • mcbi4kh2 #6 4 years ago

    @Whatsfor

    here

  • Turambar #7 4 years ago

    "Afrika will really be that big in Japan? Why? "

    Japanese love photography, they also love videogames. Therefore videogame about photography = win?

  • LunatikCajun #8 4 years ago

    "Afrika will really be that big in Japan? Why?"

    Because everything else is really small?

  • des #9 4 years ago

    Afrika Japanese TV commercial

  • Buztafen #10 4 years ago

    Its a small (mostly insignificant) victory but a victory none the less. True when FFXIII comes out the PS3 sales are gonna be huge i reckon but that the japs are giving in and buying 360's will be making Microsoft very happy. One console in one persons house with a top notch game on show can do alot to converting that persons friends....

  • Dizzy #11 4 years ago

    >Afrika will really be that big in Japan? Why?

    Sarcasm.

    Anyway.. the 360 has outsold the PS3 before (Blue Dragon I think). JRPGs seem to do the trick for the 360 in Japan... but it is only to a few that regard the 360 as a cult console. Basically the 360 and PS3 are face down in the gutter in Japan. I wonder if the new stream of JRPGs on both HD consoles will be able to lift them back above the almighty Nintendo. Very unlikely IMHO.

  • Buztafen #12 4 years ago

    des - did that ad for Afrika just show a guy and his son falling asleep while playing it? Awesome marketing!!!!

  • brainbird #13 4 years ago

    Afrika will be released on Playstation 3, but when will Playstation 3 be released in Africa?
    We need the sales numbers for Africa! Who wins the race there?

  • des #14 4 years ago

    @Buztafen

    Yes it did.
    Game is apparently targeting people that suffer from insomnia...

  • Olemak #15 4 years ago

    I really, really want to get Afrika, just to play it with my son - not a lot of relaxing yet interesting games out there. I think the niche is brilliant. I hope they'll reconcider and release it here. But then there's the import option, I guess.

    Good to see that the Xbox does have potential in japan too; but they do have to offer different games from what they do in the states to be successful. Evidently it is the other way around in the US: native games such as Halo and that "football" title they've got ver there now will do well, but japanese titles (like all the ninty stuff) will do amazingly fantastic off-the-charts etc well.

    Here in Europe it seems we enjoy pretty much everything in equal amounts, except the extremely local niches such as hentai games about tentacle rape and weird sports titles about nerfed rugby. No particular penchant for local games, exept you count "soccer" games, of course, which is pretty much a global phenomenon I would like to think.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #16 4 years ago

    "The 360 will fall right back to sub 5k sales per week right after Tales of Vesperia is a long forgotten memory. "

    I'll make sure it says Hi to your beloved PS3 on the way down.

    EDIT: Spelling
    Edited by 1 at 19/08/08 @ 10:13

  • miiiguel #17 4 years ago

    "The 360 will fall right back to sub 5k sales per week right"
    yes, at least that good news, beacuse our alter-egos Japanese-kids aren't getting much PS3's either...

  • mcbi4kh2 #18 4 years ago

    @SpaceMidget75

    Don't forget to make sure it says Hi to the PS2 aswell :)

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #19 4 years ago

    I thought I was on ignore?!?

  • oupe #20 4 years ago

    @Olemak
    Are you implying that MS/Sony should do more tentacle rape games to conquer the Japanese market?

  • Olemak #21 4 years ago

    It should also say hi to Your Mom while it's down there.

    Seriously, guys, grow up.

  • mcbi4kh2 #22 4 years ago

    I look through my ignore list once in a while and if I have forgotten why you were ignorerd I un-ignore. This must be a big moment for you?

  • miiiguel #23 4 years ago

    ^ I read your comment fast and it looked "ignorance list"... funny.

  • mcbi4kh2 #24 4 years ago

    Seriously, Olemak, jog on.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #25 4 years ago

    I'm pretty sure I only have to call you a cock-knocker or something and you'll put me straight back on ignore.

  • mcbi4kh2 #26 4 years ago

    No personal insults like that dont get you on (it actually made me smile), I cant remember what it was and I cant be bothered to trawl through past posts to find out.

  • Widge #27 4 years ago

    Quite why Blig felt the need to chip in at the 360 there I don't know...

  • Arwin #28 4 years ago

    Contrast that one week of decent sales in Japan with the PS3 (marginally) outselling the 360 during the first 7 months of 2008 ... :D

    Still, you never know when the 360 will make that massive breakthrough causing the floodgates in Japan to open ... .
    Edited by 1 at 19/08/08 @ 10:39

  • miiiguel #29 4 years ago

    "red control the floodgate core"

    /oh the voices inside my head!/

  • redneon Verified Programmer, SUMO Digital #30 4 years ago

    I have everyone on ignore.


    First!

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #31 4 years ago

    LOL

  • Beek4257 #32 4 years ago

    "Quite why Blig felt the need to chip in at the 360 there I don't know..."

    Because any news relating to 360 in a positive manner (no matter how slight) seems to bother him. As to why that is, is anyone's guess.

  • Sorb #33 4 years ago

    But is Tales of Vesperia region free? The U.S. version that comes next week better be because I can't wait for stupid translations.

  • mcbi4kh2 #34 4 years ago

    Why is everyone having a do at blig? I would agree with his post, as would all of you or else you would have corrected him.

  • Widge #35 4 years ago

    I mean SOMETIMES it seems we are all able to communicate without flying the flag of a particular console, and not singling out Blerk because I've seen enough people inflict their intelligence in any thread that is vaguely PS3 related too, but was that really any value there.

    Christ, I think we were all expecting this chart news based on the comments from last week.

  • Widge #36 4 years ago

    The post came across with a "yeah yeah well well the 360 will be outsold next week so stick that up your trumpet" amount of spite to it.

  • mcbi4kh2 #37 4 years ago

    So it wasn't what he said, it was the way he said it? lol

  • DjFlex52 #38 4 years ago

    So it wasn't what he said, it was the way he said it? lol

    @mcbi4kh2

    nope....it was that he said it at all :)
    no point really

  • miiiguel #39 4 years ago

    and the fact he doesn't say anything else but that. ever.

  • mcbi4kh2 #40 4 years ago

    So again, no one has anything to counter his argument.

    Just that he dared to say it all. Okay, lesson learned.

    and the fact he doesn't say anything else but that. ever.
    He always talks about japenese 360 sales? Strange.

  • michaelius #41 4 years ago

    If PS3 outsells Wii during Africa release I'll seriously laught :)

  • DjFlex52 #42 4 years ago

    and the fact he doesn't say anything else but that. ever.
    He always talks about japenese 360 sales? Strange.

    @mcbi4kh2

    errmmm....and you can be a dumbass and a smart ass in one sentence :)

  • Beek4257 #43 4 years ago

    He always talks about japenese 360 sales? Strange.

    Come on. Don't pretend to be this dense. You're not.

  • SeesThroughAll #44 4 years ago

    Please, mcbi4kh2, don't defend him.
    Blig_merk is always trolling at 360 news, previews or reviews. ALWAYS.

  • miiiguel #45 4 years ago

    @mcbi4kh2 :

    blig_merk
    19-Aug-08 11:31:10 I think Rare could have just done away with the pointless tying to the Banjo Kazooie franchise as this has nothing to do with it whatsoever.

    It's like a scrap from the table for those XBOXers that are jealous of LBP, a game that lets you build vehicles to solve puzzles.

    Rare have been very much off the boil since bought by MS, and anyone expecting this to be anything other than average is going to be stunningly disappointed.

    I say *YAWN*.



    blig_merk
    11-Aug-08 14:15:52 XerX3: i find it sad that every time a new 360 model is announced, everyone wants to know whether it's a more reliable version than the last.

    Says a lot for peoples confidence in their favourite product...

    ignore poster

    blig_merk
    15-Aug-08 14:06:12 I love the spin these 360 owners are putting on here. Still, being next to last in a TV console war is better than being dead last.

    Beating an 8 year old console thats on its last legs and sold 140 million is such a triumph!
    ignore poster


    ...



  • Widge #46 4 years ago

    no, he always bangs on about reasons why the 360 is shit... no real direction other than to spout console war fodder. I have no time for it in either direction.

    Whenever I see people spouting on in the PS3 threads with the same old tired generic cliches, I think "thank christ there is no-one doing this in the other direction" and then comes a post by Blig.

    I mean is there a platinum rophy for winning the console war on a comments thread? 12 months free gold live subscription?

  • mcbi4kh2 #47 4 years ago

    @DjFlux
    That was unintentional, usually I will just land on the dumb arse side. Note the correct spelling, an ass is a donkey. We are not in America DjFlux.
    Edited by 1 at 19/08/08 @ 11:37

  • mcbi4kh2 #48 4 years ago

    @miguell

    All very interesting I'm sure but completely and utterly irelevant to his post in this thread.

  • Beek4257 #49 4 years ago

    So again, no one has anything to counter his argument.

    Ofcourse not. It's stating the obvious.
    It's just getting really, really old.

  • miiiguel #50 4 years ago

    ^ but... I feel more confortable with "center" rather then with "centre".
    Edited by 2 at 19/08/08 @ 11:41

  • mcbi4kh2 #51 4 years ago

    @Widge

    I dont care what he does in other threads, I never read any threads solely related to the 360. (I dont have one so why would I?). What he said in this thread seems true.

  • johnnybrn #52 4 years ago

    Im sure that just the fact that we are talking about Blig must fuel his ego and drive him on

  • DjFlex52 #53 4 years ago

    That was unintentional, usually I will just land on the dumb arse side. Note the correct spelling, an ass is a donkey. We are not in America DjFlux.

    @mcbi4kh2

    I really don't want to argue but I have to say you're a liar. It wasn't unintentional and the same can be said for blig_merk daily comments on the fall of the 360. Your intent was loud and clear

    btw, you are not in America but I am, mcbi8zh2 ;)

  • mcbi4kh2 #54 4 years ago

    but I have to say you're a liar.
    You don't have to say it at all, does that make you a liar?

    edit: and I was referring to the fact we are posting on a european website written in english. I didnt really mean physical location. Isn't it at least 7am there btw?
    Edited by 1 at 19/08/08 @ 11:53

  • Dizzy #55 4 years ago

    Seriously... is there anybody who does *not* have blig_merk on ignore?

    This thread is very nice actually.... I have only 30 comments here ;) 20 seem to be gone.

  • DjFlex52 #56 4 years ago

    but I have to say you're a liar.
    You don't have to say it at all, does that make you a liar?

    @mcbi4kh2

    Huh?
    I hate when others take over threads with pointless off-topic babble.
    I'm done, ok? You won...

    /applauds

    edit: 6:55 AM :)


    Edited by 1 at 19/08/08 @ 11:58

  • stepneg #57 4 years ago

    "Seriously... is there anybody who does *not* have blig_merk on ignore? "

    I don't just for the comedy value.

  • Beek4257 #58 4 years ago

    It's all 'Attack the messenger rather than the message'.
    There's hardly a "message" to your post: you're merely stating the obvious as I said before.

    Are you all so insecure that you cant enter a debate about somthing unless you're on the attack?
    Downplaying somewhat positive news relating to a console you apparently don't favor, might be construed as an attack in itself and might be indicative of you're own insecurities.

    I see Ps3 news threads are flooded with anti-PS3 bile from the very same people that get upset that i say some negative things about the 360.
    No, I don't.


    its not all milk and honey boys and girls.

    and you're not helping.

  • BartonFink #59 4 years ago

    "Seriously... is there anybody who does *not* have blig_merk on ignore? "

    I don't just for the comedy value.


    Same here, always good for a laugh.

  • IneptPercy #60 4 years ago

    Good to see some people do at least see it as an option in Japan, its certainly getting further than the original xbox.

    Suprising how badly the PS3 is doing there too, not as badly as the 360 by a long shot but not amazing either.

  • mcbi4kh2 #61 4 years ago

    @DjFlex

    /stands up and greatfully accepts applause

  • CreepinJesus #62 4 years ago

    Saw this yesterday.

  • Rash' #63 4 years ago

    Seems like MS's strategy for RPG dominance in Japan may pay off. Lets see...

  • Luvbeers #64 4 years ago

    Fight a rhino? You mean take a photo of one, don't you? I suppose that would be big in Japan though. They ought to make a controller in the shape of a camera for the Japs.

  • firm3d #65 4 years ago

    I like how long this thread is going in with no-one really having anything to say. ... I just figured out the internet 15 years too late, huh?

  • Nithron #66 4 years ago

    Hahahaha. Aaaaahahahahaa. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • Dizzy #67 4 years ago

    >They ought to make a controller in the shape of a camera for the Japs.


    Seriously... that is a great idea. Nintendo should Wii that... better trademark it while you can!

  • anomagnus #68 4 years ago

    damn it, this thread looks great

    good news for the sexbox in japan, and given the amount of JRPGS that are coming out, it bodes well

    And i have something to say. The xbox, as western made console, carrying with it a plethora of games geared for the western market, was always going to struggle in Japan. As a battle ground, its virtually worthless, as the PS3 was inevitably going to succeed in Japan given the companies history, the products install base from previous users, and its a brand of patriotism.

    The fact that the xbox could succeed, even with all those barriers is a testament to both the machines, and Microsoft's commitment to the market.

    The fact the ps3 has, in effect, BOMBED in japan, despite all the advantages it has, speaks volumes of what the Japanese people think of it.

    The simple fact is, the PS3 should be EVERYWHERE in Japan. It should OWN the market. But it doesn't, does it?

    Also, i cant remember who posted it, but rather than MS lamenting the fact it couldnt get all the Final Fantasy licenses, because it lacked money (we'll leave aside the fact they didn't pay for it), surely Sony should be lamenting the fact they LOST exclusivity.

    MS could have left japan, they could have just cut their loses. The fact that are still trying, the fact that they ploughing money into it should be praised, not pissed on by anti ms children

  • mcbi4kh2 #69 4 years ago

    @anomagus (edit)

    damn it, this thread looks great

    good news for the ps3 in the west, and given the amount of FPS that are coming out, it bodes well

    And i have something to say. The PS3, as a japanese made console, carrying with it a plethora of games geared for the japenes market, was always going to struggle in the west. As a battle ground, its virtually worthless, as the 360 was inevitably going to succeed in America given the companies history, and its a brand of patriotism. (Anyone more patriotic than Americans?)

    The fact that the ps3 could succeed, even with all those barriers is a testament to both the machines, and Sony's commitment to the market.

    See, stupid arguments work well both ways :)
    Edited by 1 at 19/08/08 @ 15:41

  • Apologie #70 4 years ago

    i bought a new PC (BOARD RAMPAGE, CPU (QUAD-CORE) 3.20 GHZ, 4GB RAM, MEMORY DDR2 1066, ATI HD4870 + HD4870 POWERCOLOR IN CROSSFIRE)... I GET 21.783 IN 3D MARK06 (A GOOD SCORE IN MY OPINION).

    the point here is, if in 3 years i cannot run every game in these setup, i will no longer buy a Pc for gaming, and will dedicate exclusively to consoles, these rig cost me 1500 EUROS... oh and by the way i have a monitor HP 24, wich allows me tu run everything 1900x1200 at 85hz.

    wonder what you guy's think of these machine, opinions much apreciated.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #71 4 years ago

    anomagnus + 1

    @mcbi4kh2

    "As a battle ground, its virtually worthless, as the 360 was inevitably going to succeed in America given the companies history..."

    You're a bit thick aren't you?


    My fav Blig post ever:

    "Retard. There is nothing on the xflop 3-shitty that isn't out on the PC
    with better graphics and better playability. The xflop 3-shitty is a
    downgraded, cheaper PC alternative for inferior ports of PC games.
    Oooh, I don't get to play a fairy game like Kameo or experience the
    fugliness of a ruined Perfect Dark Zero or the not-quite-HD PGR3
    jagfest. No loss there.

    You have totally missed the mark. The xflop 3-shitty is not being
    compared to the PS3, it is not in the same league or category. The
    xflop 3-shitty is being compared to a fairly high-end, certainly not
    top-end, PC. And it fails to measure up or even be half-way there.

    The xflop 3-shitty is once again just a low-end PC console-wannabe. It
    is basically obsolete 5 months after launch. The PS3 is the definitiion
    of next-gen console. Someday, you may realize that but since you are
    almost 40 already, that day will probably never come."

    alt.games.video.xbox

  • mcbi4kh2 #72 4 years ago

    @spacemidget

    You're a bit thick aren't you?
    No im extremely thick but that isn't the point.

    As a leader of our great nation once said
    I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.

    And another thing, people keep posting bligs comments at me like I have said I agree with everything he has ever written. I just agreed with his post in this thread.
    btw, that really is a tard of a comment. Shame on you blog

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #73 4 years ago

    I actually attacked you personally AND "politically" by quoting the absurdity of your take on anomagnus' post. Thought I'd cover all bases.

    That blig quote wasn't really for your benefit... I just love it.

  • Beek4257 #74 4 years ago

    Ooh, stupid arguments! I've made one myself. Here goes:

    Xbox 360 manages to outsell PS3 on their hometurf on the back of one single gamerelease.

    Gee, this stuff is easy. And lame.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #75 4 years ago

    I've got one:

    360 would have sold at least 100,000 if they hadn't sold out everywhere!

  • mcbi4kh2 #76 4 years ago

    "As a battle ground, its virtually worthless, as the 360 was inevitably going to succeed in America given the companies history..."

    "As a battle ground, its virtually worthless, as the PS3 was inevitably going to succeed in Japan given the companies history..."

    One gets +1, the other gets 'you are thick'.

    I think they both should get 'you are thick'. Which was the point of my post.

    anononaomaongus's post was also contradivtive.

    the PS3 was inevitably going to succeed in Japan

    followed by:

    The fact the ps3 has BOMBED in japan

    Best +1'ing it anyway eh spacemonster? it did say something +ve about the 360. hmm.

    Im going to be a 360 owner soon anyway. Im a b&k whore :-( Dam you Rare.

  • anomagnus #77 4 years ago

    @mcbi4kh2

    clearly, you're a mental midget, with basic literacy skills

    Firstly, the US has proven itself MORE than open to Japanese consoles, given the fact that it has lapped up consoles for the last 20 years from the country. Which is COMPLETELY the opposite of Japan. The point i was trying to make was that MS has a far more challenging slope to climb penetrating Japan than sony penetrating the US

    Secondly, my point in the PS3 succeeding in Japan, was clearly in reference to its performance vs the xbox, and not an overall performance in the market, where its ass has been handed to it by another Japanese company, offering a shit product with only a fucking wand to differentiate it. The xbox at least has the excuse that it is a foreign machine with a games library not suited to the market. Whats Sony's excuse?

    Thirdly, in spelling my name, i don't know if you're highly brain damaged, or trying to be funny, but both illicit pity in the strongest terms

    If you had been able to grasp my post at all, any success that MS has in Japan should be lauded.

    Instead, in your grasping, mental challenged way, you've tried to be smart, and failed.

    Edit for another point

    MS is hardly a cherished company in the states, since its products are universally slated by just about anyone that thinks its fucking cool to post anti MS bullshit, while happily working away on windows platform.
    Edited by 2 at 19/08/08 @ 16:46

  • anomagnus #78 4 years ago

    Another point that you might want to consider mcbi4kh2

    Sony had a ten year lead on MS. It had successfully deployed not one, but two gaming platforms on a global basis, that had destroyed its competition at the time.

    It had deals in place with every games developer of note. It had distribution networks across every major territory . It had marketing partners, and brand exposure, it had it ALL.

    And 2 years after launch, its only NOW beginning to EDGE a lead?!?!

    Instead of looking at some fancy figures, bother to understand the history and the context of this console war. Even if the PS3 eventually wins, its has been a disaster for them, because MS , WHO ARE STILL A NEWCOMER, handed them their asses for two years.

    Sony are the undisputed brand leaders in Europe and Japan, and were in the states, they should have done a far better job with the PS3 than they have done.They should be number one everywhere. And the simple fact is, they're not.

    What you, and many other people fail to grasp, is that any success MS has, in the games market i might add, is an achievement.

    PS3 has had its lead badly eroded. During the next generation, i fail to see how they can recoup their losses this time round.

    And before anyone throughs up more nonsense about MS's bottomless pits of money, you might want to do your research. You'll find that Sony made about 30 billion dollars MORE than MS last year, and is by far the larger company.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #79 4 years ago

    "As a battle ground, its virtually worthless, as the 360 was inevitably going to succeed in America given the companies history..."

    "As a battle ground, its virtually worthless, as the PS3 was inevitably going to succeed in Japan given the companies history..."

    One gets +1, the other gets 'you are thick'.

    It's really quite simple. Your version doesn't work because the original XBox comparatively flopped even in the US (PS1/2 were successful). Therefore there was no "inevitably"* about the 360 winning in the states given previous performance. Therefore, 'you are thick'.


    *Obviously there is no real inevitability in any of this but for the sake of the original post it made sense.

  • Law07 #80 4 years ago

    TEH CONSOLE WAR IS OVARR!!

    XBOX IS DA WINNRRR

  • Ryze #81 4 years ago

    @Widge

    ...because blig_merk is a cockface? As is mcbi4kh2 by the looks of it.

    ...and no I'm not insecure - yes you're a prick.

  • Wildsleven #82 4 years ago

    but but its only a tales game!!!

  • mcbi4kh2 #83 4 years ago

    whoa, thats a lot of insults and I havent even finished my morning coffee.

    @anamongus

    clearly, you're a mental midget, with basic literacy skills
    Hardly a revelation, anyone who has read even half my posts knows this.

    Thirdly, in spelling my name, i don't know if you're highly brain damaged, or trying to be funny, but both illicit pity in the strongest terms
    It was(is) neither, its laziness. I couldnt be bothered to scroll down the page to check.

    What I was basically trying to get across is previous console sales dont mean an awful lot for the next generation. Didnt help sega much with the dreamcast, or Nintendo with the GameCube.


    @ryze
    Calling people cockfaces and pricks isn't very mature is it. you some kind of internet tough guy?

    @spacemidget
    herefore there was no "inevitably"* about the 360 winning in the states given previous performance. Therefore, 'you are thick'.
    Wow, wow, wow! You're still not getting my post are you? My version doesnt work and neither does anagrams which was the point of my post. I even called it stupid when I first wrote it!
    Edited by 3 at 20/08/08 @ 08:31

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #84 4 years ago

    I do get you and think you're wrong. That's not the same as simply 'not getting you'.

    I think anomagnus' post does work, or at the very least I get the point he was trying to make. End of.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #85 4 years ago

    "What I was basically trying to get across is previous console sales dont mean an awful lot for the next generation. Didnt help sega much with the dreamcast, or Nintendo with the GameCube."

    Good argument there! The precursor to the DC was the Saturn and the precursor to the GC was the N64.

    So yeah, those hugely 'successful' consoles really helped Sega and Ninty out in the next gen.

  • mcbi4kh2 #86 4 years ago

    yeah I was one step up the chain, Im not as old as you so I forget these things.

    I change my argument to Snes didnt help the N64 and Mega Drive didnt help the Saturn. Is that right?

    btw the N64 was awesome, Mario Kart 64 > Mario Kart wii and Goldeneye was the best fps ever.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #87 4 years ago

    That's better.

    In my experience a previous console 'winner' does help for at least one generation and and possibly the next unless you completely fuck it up.

  • electrolite #88 4 years ago

    THere's a trend developing here-console manufacturers only seem to be able to hold the lead for two 'generations' max before getting carried away with their success and shooting themselves in the foot. Nintendo - NES, SNES, got arrogant.....N64, GC. Sony-PS1, PS2, got arrogant....PS3.

    There's something almost heart warming about this