Xbox 360 beating PS3 in the US
But Nintendo still way ahead of both.
The recent price cuts for Xbox 360 have helped the console surge ahead of PS3 in the US - but Nintendo is still firmly bossing the lot of them.
According to NPD figures 347,000 Xbox 360 units were sold in September, up from 195,200 the previous month. However, the lower price meant a decline in sales revenues, down to USD 498 million compared to USD 546 million the previous year.
The number of PS3s sold stood at 232,000, compared to 185,000 in August. Sony also shifted 173,000 PS2 units and 238,000 PSPs
That's less than half the number of Nintendo DS units sold (537,000). The Wii continues to top the table, with sales hitting 687,000 last month.
"Compared to August, nearly all hardware systems realised an increase in unit sales in September," said Anita Frazier of NPD.
"The price reduction on the Xbox 360 helped deliver a month-over-month unit sales increase for that platform of 78 per cent."
The entire market for the US, including software and accessories, was down seven per cent to USD 1.27 billion, compared to USD 1.35 billion for September 2007.
"It's important to keep in mind, however, that this month's 7 per cent decline is against a month that itself was up 75 per cent from the prior September. Last year, Halo 3 released in September 2007 and that game had a huge impact on hardware and software sales," added Frazier.
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Maybe but Sony's might think that with these game there's gonna be an increase of sale. Especially for the coming holiday season. Guess that there gonna cut the price early next year.
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The real news however is Nintendo is still kicking their asses, with what is a more expensive machine (than the 'tard pack at least), that's far lower spec.
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Meanwhile, Nintendo are still winning everywhere, there's plenty of advertising for various things on TV, I've found a lot of games I missed and am currently enjoying, and I can't see this slowing anytime soon. I generally think it's a great time for gaming at the moment.
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I fancy a spare 360 once I can guarantee a Jasper chipset. Another month should do it.
Sony don't really need to drop the price. Yes, you can now get a cheaper BD player than the PS3 but you're also getting games capability and a media center for your extra Ģ50. Both consoles are well worth the money (I would say the worst value is the Elite).
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Rain wet?
Watch the 360 clobber the PS3 end of the year and the Wii slaughter both of them. I think the position of the three consoles is pretty clear by now, almost 3 years into the so called "next gen".
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Xbox 360 sales didn't really increase that much given what time of the year it is plus it's price drop.
I think the position of the three consoles is pretty clear by now, almost 3 years into the so called "next gen".
I'm not so sure, believe it or not over the year, the PS3 has still outsold the Xbox 360 in the US despite this month of the Xbox 360 cutting that lead to a pathetic number.
I'm not convinced either Xbox 360 or PS3's sales will increase significantly beyond the usual Christmas boost and yes I am considering both Gears 2 and Resistance 2 into my prediction.
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Close?! It's a reasonably tense battle for second place (like it was last gen) but number 1 is way ahead of the pack (like it was last gen).
MS is doing horrible (barely better than the original xbox despite a way better catalogue, a year's headstart and a grown market) but thanks to flaws in human psychology and a lack of intelligence looks good because it's doing better than the catastrophic failure that is last gen's winner.
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Not true.
Leslol. He will continue by saying shareholders stuff...
Look how he seeks to talk about how MS is doing horribly, and fails to compare PS3 to PS2..., if thatīs not a huge backstep, I donīt know what is.
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Err?? After 3 years they are about equal as the original XBox. 2 more to go.. I am sure they will probably double that number. Also they are making money on the 360, the original didn't have that "luxury".
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MS is making far more cash of game sales, live subscriptions, and overpriced accessories than they did with Xbox. Even Steve Ballmer was crowing about it.
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edit: you canīt rely on one year start to a difference of more than 2x. Anyway, if I wasnīt late for work I would be on time, right?
/fuck Iīm sooo late/
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"Sony don't really need to drop the price."
0_o
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i'm with dizzy, can't see the positions in the US changing now, all that seems left is whether the Wii can outsell both consoles combined in the US, and what the gap between the 360 and ps3 ends up at.
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Yea.. luckily they also seem to be buying spare games!
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Sales aren't down a huge amount from last September, they declined 7%. Considering the credit crunch is causing a retail recession, and that a system selling title (Halo 3) was released last September, with no equivalent title being released this September, this is hardly unexpected.
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You can do anything with statistics. You just find the good or bad thing to prove your point. Let us try!
Xbox 360
August - 48,750K/week (195,000 total)
September - 69,400K/week (347,000 total)
Sales Increase - 42.36%
PS3
August - 46,338.25K/week (185,353 total)
September - 46,481.6K/week (232,408 total)
Sales Increase - 0.31%
Wow.. I am shocked!!!!
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last Gen Mach 3 is still the casual shavers favourite outselling them both, despite clearly inferior quality.
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Sorry but are you really so far up yer arse that you don't see the absolute irony of your post?
<a href='http://192.20.225.55/tts/speech/dd03d98331fa 4e4658b476a0ac7b27ca.wav'>On suggestion of xkcd</a>.
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The Gobi dessert is wetter than the Sahara dessert. Still, they're both desserts.
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PS3, the big console that couldn't. Shame.
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Making a comment on that is just WAAAAY too easy.
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PS3 is bye-bye now.
See you next heneration, sony !
Or...NOT !!!
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Gobi Dessert? I've not tasted that one is it really dry...?
You complete cretin you deserve banning for that spelling offence.
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Next Heneration rumrum444? Its that like hentai in HD?
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xbotx? - It's the PS3 owners who are whining.
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ROFL.
Self inflicted headshot?
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mingster,
give this guy a break, ok?
itīs just that i just arrived in UK from....Mexico.
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I think the positions are set, it's all just about numbers now.
I find quite amazing that the PS2 still equalls the PS3 in sales. That must be a little depressing for Sony, although I guess it's all money.
The PSP continues to sell well. So why no games? I was thinking of getting one for going on holiday next month so I could get some movies for the flights and stuff as well as a game or two. I might just get a GP32X or something similar instead.
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PS3 owners should be happy with third place and just enjoy their console for what it is, the war is over, go play your games.
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Yeah, correct. It's a drop of over 35% compared to last year. Why journalists just print quotes without even checking them is beyond me...
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O_o
Even though the PS3 is the only console I actually own I see no sense or logic in what you are saying.
For example the who point of a price cut is to boost sales and keep the hardware moving. It doesnt matter what the reasons are or how you twist numbers, fact is the 360 is outselling the PS3, and the Wii is spanking them both. End of.
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something that you predict is going to happen cannot, by definition, be a fact. and that's a fact.
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The X360 is doing substantially better than the XBox based on current life spans. As you can see in this graph the X360 has sold about four million more than the Xbox given the same sales period. However, it has yet to overtake the Xbox's lifetime sales total.
Despite all the negativity surrounding PS3 sales, this graph shows that their sales are very similar to the PS2, which I am sure is of much comfort to Sony. However, as you can see the PS2 benefitted from a substantial seasonal sales spike. I'm not convinced the PS3 will see the same jump and I'd expect to see it start to lag behind the PS2 over the next year.
The last graph surprised me slightly. It shows lifetime sales of the three current gen machines and obviously the Wii is head and shoulders above the rest. However, the PS3 and X360 sales are remarkably similar. Their first years sales are practically identical and the general trend for both are in line. The implication being that both machines are selling equally well, the X360 simply had a years head start.
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Yeah those xbots are all defensive in a comments thread about selling more consoles than the PS3.
Secretly they're all wishing the 360 was selling less than the PS3 and that they'd paid more money for the console to play fewer games a year later.
Not that I agree with them, but I think you've mistaken gloating for defensiveness.
Now fuck off you troll.
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"Not true"
Yes it is no matter how much you dont want to believe it. Maybe MGS4 can turn things around for MS
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This will be very interesting to follow.
The price reduction promo combined with a large selection of games is getting to the EU gamermarket
Sony can't permit themselves a price reduction...not yet.
Im still surprised that they sell a lot of ps2's. Is this good ? Personally i don't think so. ps2 will eventually die and sony needs to convince a lot more ps2 gamers to go with the ps3. Trade-in action will do huge.
its better to have one winning horse than 1 that is dying and 1 that is losing
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Except the 360 everytime it overheats.
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I do hope that Sony survive as we (consumers) need the competition in the market.
It must be worrying for Sony that the PS2 is still outselling the PS3 with regard to Madden and other titles in the US.
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Plus Sony didnt have to set aside $1bn like MS, so they'll probably end this generation having made more money. MS will be disappointed with those sales having cut their margins.
Quoted from NPD
"Additionally, software sales for PS3 experienced year-over-year growth of 130% with 1.72 million units sold."
As for lacklustre catalogue, that is purely subjective. Because PS3 doesnt have GOW, Halo and Viva Pinata its shit? Most PS3 owners will be happy with Wipeout HD, SOCOM, LBP, Motorstorm 2, Resistance 2, Valkyria Chronicles, plus an excellent port of Bioshock, not to mention the numerous third-party games coming.
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This is probably part of the problem. Sony reached a whole new audience of casual gamer with the PS2 (and partly the PS1). This lead to them selling millions of consoles. The downside? Those very people are still very happy to play Madden, Fifa or Singstar on their PS2.
Personally I can't see the next Wii being a success either as my mother in law is quite happy (although she's actually not using it anymore) with what she has.
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Considering their are people buying the PS3 as a games machine, and their are people buying it a BD player, and their are people buying it as a games machine/BD player, the PS3 should be selling far more shouldn't it? Especially compared to something that is just a games machine.
You lot can't have it both ways. You can't spout value for money yada yada yada and then use it's price as a reason for lower sales figures than the competition.
The fact is, since launch the PS3 has been the BD player of choice for many people. The PS3 sells on TWO fronts and the figures are what they are - last month the 360 sold more than the PS3. End of.
I mean come on, if you took away the people that buy PS3's as BD players sales would be even less. That's not good news for a games machine is it?
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Any money made off Blu-rays has been a bonus for Sony.
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yeah i can see it outselling and generating more revenue than halo, what a dickhead.
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I'm almost.....ALLLLLLmost starting to believe that the 360 might just outsell the PS3 this generation. Still a few years to go, but I didn't expect them to be this far ahead as they are even at this point. I agree with others that in the US the race is all but a done deal, though.
Who gives a shite about Wii sales anymore? They sell a ton no matter if any games are coming out or not. Sales are driven by a different force.
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Way over 300K is a good number in a dry month for games.
I think they'll beat that in October based on some big releases and then do 1M+ for Nov/Dec (cumulative!).
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Not because of the Wii anyway.
The DS has deserved it's success but thanks to clever marketing strategies and a competitive price point the Wii has totally oblitirated it's competition.
I am looking at this situation though, as someone who has grown up with "games for gamers" and don't really get the whole mainstream popularity of Wii software.
Kudos to Nintendo for pulling themselves back from the disappointment (sales) of the N64 and Gamecube but to do so in a way which seems to be totally against what Nintendo used to stand for leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
It's a sad day when you almost feel sorry for two mega corporations like Sony and Microsoft.
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The PS3 is doing "ok" but I think they're going to really feel the heat this holiday season when the 360 and Wii are selling consoles by the truck load and they're still doing "ok". Sales are good enough, and despite being beaten by the other two, they're probably doing as well as anyone can expect. They're digging themselves a giant hole if they want to come in anything but last this gen, though...and I don't know if "being the most expensive" is such a great excuse anymore given their entry point is the same as the 20 gig 360 was for quite a while.
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Ignored.
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That's a 'guarantee' that I'm personally gonna call you on when ur wrong ...
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Spin spin spin... "look PS2 hadnt sold that many either at this point in time... and then it shot up... this gen is going the same way" wtf theres no better word than deluded for you people(living on past glory)... there will be no dreamcast type death to leave a massive hole for PS3 to fill, there will be no dropping of EAs support, no clinging on to 3rd parties just because Sony think they own the console industry... its an even share this time around as far as thats concerned. There is no excuses about MS' console being too big or the control pads in comparison to Sony's and most importantly there was no WII last gen(first place was still for the taking at that point).
Face facts Sony fanboys the dynamics of this generation are completely different to last... you can wishfully speculate that the 360 is on the decline(unconvincingly I might add) but I really do feel more people are interested in the 360 and it will start to outsell the PS3 more consistantly from Nov on through the next year(cheaper Blu-ray drives could even force PS3 sales down a little)... if MS manage to keep the momentum going through next christmas thats this gens results settled.
The position that looks clearest right now is first place and thats the Wii, which Im glad for, finally Sony have been unseated may even end up a clear 3rd place which might teach them a lesson.
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"Why isnt the headline:"Wii beating 360 in US"?
Eurogamer, you blatent fanboy baiters. "
They're doing good. You always pop out of nowhere with something stupid enough to make me laugh. I give u my word i didnt even read ur next posts. I Just saw ur name over and over like always so yeah. They are baiters and you always go for it which makes perfect sence.
The fact that 360s sell more than PS3s isnt good for the simple fact that a console starts selling at a high point and starts going low.The thing is that Sony wont see bigger sales till the first price drop. Now MS was smart enough to dro their price instead and good for the consumer anyways and the gamer so good the all of them anyways.
Now for those sad posts like mentioning still the RRoD etc i mean its been so long, dont they ever get tired of saying it over and over? At least for some1 like me that has an xbox since day one and has been more than happy enjoying this gen's games while he was waiting for a PS3 more than a year while i was playing games that he did afterwards with worse graphs with many examples that we all know, its just makes them sound too pathetic to me.
Anyhow. I can't wait to wait for the NEXT gen consoles now. Hope i dont have to wait MS prove it will be in about 9 years cause of them and i get something from Nintendo or MS instead while Sony is droping price on their PS3...
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Plus Sony didnt have to set aside $1bn like MS, so they'll probably end this generation having made more money. MS will be disappointed with those sales having cut their margins. "
FFS, how many more times? MS don't give a flying fuck about money this gen, they want market share such that in future gens, they are the guys making cash out of their brand alone, as Sony and N have been doing for the last decade+.
Also, 3rd party devs also don't give a flying fuck about 'proportional' sales, they care about total sales only, regardless of reason. There is no "yeah but no but yeah but it did really well *considering* ......." for them.
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17-Oct-08 11:12:17
The PSP continues to sell well. So why no games? I was thinking of getting one for going on holiday next month so I could get some movies for the flights and stuff as well as a game or two. I might just get a GP32X or something similar instead.
The PSP has loads of great games and is my favourite gaming system and you should definitely get one.
As for the current US sales figures the real sad thing for me is seeing a console with last gen technology and hardly any good games selling in such huge numbers.
I really fear the success of the Wii could result in both Sony and Microsoft going down the same road in the next gen and catering for the casual crowd.
PS3 and 360 fans should stop fighting and unite against Nintendo the true enemies of gaming.
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What if you own a Wii and a Hi res is everything console?
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Lower sales than last year, despite being cheaper than the Wii, and no killer exclusives until November, - it's deseration!
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The 360 is already a success, you should be worrying about MS hitting the ground running with the 720 already in testing stage.
The PS3 is in trouble, Sony thought they would have 50% of the DVD market by the end of 2008, Blu-Ray has 2%.
Even without the Blu drive, Cell is nowhere near what it was cracked up to be. Now they tell us wait til the latter half of a new 10 year plan.