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Xbox 360 beating PS3 by 8m, says MS News

Xbox 360 News by Ellie Gibson

16 January, 2009

Microsoft has said its internal figures show 28 million Xbox 360 consoles have now been sold worldwide - putting it ahead of the PS3 by 8 million units.

The company is also claiming the lead in the US is 7 million, while it's ahead in Europe by 1 million.

The news comes after NPD released sales data for December showing 360 outsold PS3 by 2 to 1.

The Wii is still beating the pair of them, but according to Microsoft, NPD puts the total lifetime spending for Xbox 360 at USD 13.2 billion compared to USD 10.8 billion for Wii. The figure for PS3 stands at USD 6.1 billion.

Microsoft reports that Live now has more than 17 million active members, who have racked up 10 billion hours since launch. The 1.5 million concurrent players landmark has also been hit.

"Our goal for 2008 was to reach new audiences by bringing ground-breaking games and entertainment to Xbox 360," said Microsoft's Don Mattrick. That and making some money, presumably.

"Looking forward, new waves of innovation will extend our position as the global leader in interactive entertainment."

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Les
16/01/09 @ 08:37
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"The company is also claiming the lead in the US is 7 million, while it's ahead in Europe by 1 million."

Minus about 2m or something in Japan adds up to just a 6m lead, doesn't it? Or is Japan no longer part of the world?
Xerx3s
16/01/09 @ 08:41
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Errr, run this by me: they are 8 million ahead. 7 in the US, 1 in Europe. In Japan sony however is 3 million ahead, surely the sum would then be (7+1)-3=5?
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DFawkes
16/01/09 @ 08:42
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I still never trust figures from the companies themselves, since they always seem like they're for shareholders, not us. Nice to see gaming still doing so well though.
lambtron
16/01/09 @ 08:43
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Err Xerxes you might want to take another look at that sum.

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muscleblade
16/01/09 @ 08:43
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Dont forget Australia. Whos leading there?

The_vorlon_man
16/01/09 @ 08:44
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OF COURSE THE BLOODY LIFETIME SPENDING IS MORE FOR THE 360! The Wii has been on the market 1 year less! That and the games are cheaper!


So MS are still ignoring the elephant in the room then eh?


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Xerx3s
16/01/09 @ 08:44
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NINJA-yousawnothing-EDIT!
The_vorlon_man
16/01/09 @ 08:48
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Xerx3s:

If it doesnt fit in with MS boasting credentials, they just ingore it.

Witness: Wii outselling 360 by more than 2:1 over the holiday buying season, and yet MS decide to concentrate on bashing the PS3, which costs twice as much as the 360.


farticusmaximus
16/01/09 @ 08:55
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@The_vorlon_man

We are Tokyo. The Wii is Godzilla! We all know it's trouncing us but the HD console war is much more fun. ;)

Edit: Interesting how they have ignored Japan's figures, when they put so much effort into 'breaking' Japan..
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the_dudefather
16/01/09 @ 08:56
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@tomnol

my enjoyment of games stems from how many copies or consoles are sold

Okami and the Dreamcast suck btw ;P
warbo
16/01/09 @ 09:00
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Les/Xerx3s, the difference in the US and Europe combined being 8 million means that total sales in the other territories must be roughly even.

28 million sold worldwide versus 20 million means the 360 has an 8 million unit lead.
pommak
16/01/09 @ 09:02
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Corporate bullcrap. Would be nice if you could make a separated section for these "news" and hide them away from the main page.
spammage
16/01/09 @ 09:03
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"Les/Xerx3s, the difference in the US and Europe combined being 8 million means that total sales in the other territories must be roughly even.

28 million sold worldwide versus 20 million means the 360 has an 8 million unit lead. "

Yes, as we all know, the 360 and PS3 have sold roughly the same amount of units in Japan.......
Les
16/01/09 @ 09:06
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"Les/Xerx3s, the difference in the US and Europe combined being 8 million means that total sales in the other territories must be roughly even."

Given that for MS Europe includes the modded 360 loving Middle East I seriously doubt that the part of the world that's still left is big enough to compensate for the surplus of PS3 in the third biggest video game market... But who knows.
CreepinJesus
16/01/09 @ 09:06
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@lambtron,

"Err Xerxes you might want to take another look at that sum."

Err... YOU might want to take another look at that sum.

Edit: now, I see the edit he did... sad face.
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bioreit
16/01/09 @ 09:10
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@ CrrepinJesus

Welcome to the world of comments-editing. Thanks for stopping by.
Xerx3s
16/01/09 @ 09:10
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You see, nobody saw a thing

/disappears in a puff of smoke
DjFlex52
16/01/09 @ 09:11
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Witness: Wii outselling 360 by more than 2:1 over the holiday buying season, and yet MS decide to concentrate on bashing the PS3, which costs twice as much as the 360.

@The_vorlon_man

So now the PS3 is twice as much as the 360? Just last week Sony was claiming the 360 was more expensive than the PS3.
Boy oh boy.....talk about spinning out of control ;P

At least MS has someone to bash....poor Sony, they're on bottom so who can they bash?
El-Dev
16/01/09 @ 09:30
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Playstation3 has sold 20m in just over 2 years while 360 has sold 28m in over 3 years.

If Sony sell more than 28m in a 3 year period will it still be "EPICFAILSONYLOL" or do people not take logic and simple maths into consideration?
interceptor
16/01/09 @ 09:37
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Remember folks, companies make their money from selling software. The consoles themselves are often loss-leaders.

Fact is, as well as having a bigger installed userbase in US and Europe, 360 owners are buying more games.

Also, considering how totally dominant the Playstation brand was in Europe last gen, this is an impressive achievement by MS.
des
16/01/09 @ 09:43
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The gap is getting bigger,interesting...
NotSoSlim
16/01/09 @ 09:48
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Has the 3 million lead i Japan been ignored? or am i missing something?
Petulant_Radish
16/01/09 @ 10:09
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Japan is a lie.
NotSoSlim
16/01/09 @ 10:09
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Ok thats the reason then
Negotiator
16/01/09 @ 10:12
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Good news, good news, you see Sony are in big trouble they lose shit loads of money every time they sell a PS3. Bleeding money that they can't afford, MS on the other hand make money on the 360 plus at the moment the 360 is outselling the PS3 worldwide.
Widge
16/01/09 @ 10:12
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All companies are going to publish stats that show them in the best possible light. Quite why we get all miffy about it month in month out is a mystery. Perhaps our comprehension gets wiped each month so each time its like a whole new world of fresh outrage.
NotSoSlim
16/01/09 @ 10:15
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Negotiator

Sony do not lose shit load they should break even by march which is when the 45nm chip should be ready.
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El-Dev
16/01/09 @ 10:17
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"MS on the other hand make money on the 360."

Bullshit.

The only reason they are claiming to make a profit is because the wrote-off $0.5bn that it cost them for all the extended warranties to cover their faulty product.
CreepinJesus
16/01/09 @ 10:34
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@NotSoSlim

45nm.. not mm :) A 45mm chip would be stone-age computing!
NotSoSlim
16/01/09 @ 10:44
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''45nm.. not mm :) A 45mm chip would be stone-age computing!''

lol and edited
warbo
16/01/09 @ 10:55
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NotSoSlim: "Has the 3 million lead i Japan been ignored? or am i missing something?"

No, PS3 hasn't even sold 3 million in total there yet. The difference is ~1.85 million. Xbox 360 has an 8 million unit lead wordwide.

Japan lifetime to date numbers from MediaCreate:

PS3: 2,711,226
360: 860,788



sneetch
16/01/09 @ 10:57
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In related news Microsoft's dad is bigger than Sony's dad and is a pilot!
farticusmaximus
16/01/09 @ 11:08
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@sneetch

Yeah but Ninty's mum can beat up both their dads together! ;)

I've seen her beat the dust out of carpets. The tattoos on her arms and slight hint of moustache give the game away..

NotSoSlim
16/01/09 @ 11:10
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warbo

That means its about 6 million then as the article mentions nothing about Japan. Numbers do not add up
spudsbuckley
16/01/09 @ 11:33
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Do the numbers that MS published include the amount of consoles they had to send out to replace the ones that broke down on people? Do they count them as sales as well?

:D
Sunyavadin
16/01/09 @ 11:35
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PS3 - 2 million lead over 360 in Japan, 0.5 million in Europe
360 - 6.5 million lead over PS3 in US

Total: 4 million lead worldwide for 360.


Putting it only 23 million BEHIND the Wii.....
Petulant_Radish
16/01/09 @ 11:49
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El Dev,

Just because Microsoft wrote off a large debt does not mean that they do not make a small profit on each unit sold, because they do, whether this balances their books or not is a different matter though I have a feeling you may wish to pay attention to the words ‘wrote off’.
Raz76
16/01/09 @ 12:04
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There are parts of the world that aren't America, Europe or Japan, too...
sneetch
16/01/09 @ 12:07
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@farticusmaximus

You still would though, admit it. ;)
spudsbuckley
16/01/09 @ 12:11
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There are parts of the world that aren't America, Europe or Japan, too...

Yeah but they're irrlevant in terms of their impact on console sales.
The_vorlon_man
16/01/09 @ 12:14
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farticusmaximus:

Oh of course. All the fanboys own HD consoles, so it's more likely that they'll get reams and reams of internet arguing about it.

Wii owners tend not to 'do' forums.

Raz76
16/01/09 @ 12:19
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There are parts of the world that aren't America, Europe or Japan, too...

Yeah but they're irrlevant in terms of their impact on console sales.


I dont think they're completely irrelevant. Actually my guess is Microsoft figures that its lead in the rest of the world outside these markets is big enough to offset the PS3 lead in Japan.
farticusmaximus
16/01/09 @ 13:11
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@sneetch

Hehe, any port in a storm mate. Any port in a storm. xD
bonker
16/01/09 @ 14:30
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"modded 360 loving Middle East"

What??
ronuds
16/01/09 @ 16:13
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You all realize that more than 3 countries exist, and MS obviously isn't commenting on them because the #'s are so small? But added up I'm sure they could come to a couple million.

If I were MS, I wouldn't compare the 360's sales to the Wii's either. I reject the notion that just because they're both consoles means they appeal to the same audiences - which these two SO OBVIOUSLY do not. Not to mention but their sales don't seem to be in any way in correlation with one another, which you would think might be the case of two directly competing products? But you keep bragging to yourselves, it's fun to watch....especially because you're a 1 person band, seeing as not many people who are serious enough about games to visit gaming forums really care much about the Wii.
DjFlex52
16/01/09 @ 16:15
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MS are putting a brave face on how well they are doing, because its certainly not the runaway success they would have hoped for.

@retibra

You're kidding, right? MS lost the last generation by over 100 million consoles and now they're putting on a brave face for outselling the PS3 by 8 million this generation? How could they have expected a runaway success against the beast that WAS Sony?
This is exactly what they hoped for.....even better, imho....considering that early on they had bigtime hardware failures.
Sunyavadin
16/01/09 @ 16:21
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@ Raz76
There are parts of the world that aren't America, Europe or Japan, too...

Yes, but 360 and PS3 sales are roughly equal for South America, Africa, Australia, and the others when you total them up. And I didn't want to highlight that the Wii is also outselling them both by a rather serious margin in them too.
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16/01/09 @ 16:31
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"Yes, but 360 and PS3 sales are roughly equal for South America, Africa, Australia, and the others when you total them up. And I didn't want to highlight that the Wii is also outselling them both by a rather serious margin in them too."

Since you seem to be the only person in the entirety of the universe to have these figures, mind sharing them? Or, dear God, please don't tell me you're going by something like vg chartz who has no better access to the numbers than you or I (unless you're someone in the industry who has insider info.)?

Also, the Wii's #'s are insignificant to Sony and MS except for those who want to trash MS for boasting about good sales. They aren't direct competitors and I'll go to my grave believing that (mostly because it's true...looking at business models, etc.).
VampiricEye
16/01/09 @ 17:07
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ronuds: "You all realize that more than 3 countries exist..."

Since when did Europe become a country?:)
Raz76
16/01/09 @ 17:08
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@Sunyavadin

"And I didn't want to highlight that the Wii is also outselling them both by a rather serious margin in them too"

What has that got to do with anything I was saying? A lot of people seemed to think there had to be a flaw in the numbers reported by the article, and I was just pointing out that it wasn't necessarily the case.

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