XBLA vs. PSN vs. WiiWare/Virtual Console Comments by Dan Whitehead

Id agree that PS3 definatley has the best quality to crap ratio by a mile.

Thought you might of also mentioned sony are the first and still only to offer box product level games on there service.

Apples vs. Oranges vs. Bananas!

Oranges. Obviously.

I'm going apples. I don't like mushy banana bits and oranges are full of stringy gak.

How can you comment ont the quality of PSN without mentioning Warhawk or Wipeout!? Shit article.

What a pile of cr*p

Nintendo makes me pay for games I already bought in the past, and played an finished in the past.

360 has amazing stuff, but also lots of horrible stuff.
Sony has less on offer, but the quality is good. And you've got really big games on there (Warhawk, Quest for Booty, Burnout Paradise). As a gamer, you should own a 360 and a PS3, and you should pick the best of both to fill your gaming days.

This VS stuff is just fanboy ammo. Racism within the console world...

Typical ADF response, cant see past the usual pro-apple bias on here.

a PLEA to ignore rumrum... if you check his posting history, you'll see he's a bit of a tube.

Sony, it seems, is still on the fence here. The PlayStation Store hasn't yet found its killer app; the must-have game that drives every PS3 owner to dust off their credit card.

ha ha ha... umm Wipeout?

Shit article.

I've used all 3, and they're all good. I'd probably agree that XBLA just edges the others out - I enjoy browsing the store more, and have quite a few really good games on it. Or I should say had, since I traded it in. The good thing is when I eventually get another I can just sign-in and redownload no problems.

I think wipeout is a killer app for PSN, whoever doesnt shouldn't play games !!!

But on the whole the 360 does have the better downloadable games ............. for now but as sony allow any size for PSN games i think they will start producing some amazing stuff in the future !!

Sony, it seems, is still on the fence here. The PlayStation Store hasn't yet found its killer app; the must-have game that drives every PS3 owner to dust off their credit card.

Warhawk. Shit article.

As I've only got a 360 at the moment, I can only comment on its Marketplace.
The imminent new facelift has come at just the right time, I was getting kind of sick of trawling through the (now rather bland looking) different menus and sub-menus, not just for the Arcade titles but for the demos, themes, whatever.
I can't argue that quality wise it's really finding its feet now, it still gets the odd mega turd, but it certainly has its fair share of classics.
And the pricing is occasionally waaaay off, charging 800pts for a game that is renowned for being shite is just wrong.

I'm well biased obviously, but having stuff like Wipeout, Siren, Burnout, GT5p and Warhawk as part of your download catalogue is a pretty massive plus. Out of all the downloadable titles you can get, this is real high quality stuff production wise.

Intriguing to hear Bomberman and Bionic Commando name dropped as keystone titles as they are cross platform? Or have I got that wrong...

Be interesting to see what the future holds because there are some great titles to come, more Pixeljunk stuff, Fat Princess, GTI Club, Savage Moon. What needs addressing is as mentioned, the bizarre PSone catalogue. Every now and again, something pretty crappy is dropped onto us. I'd rather have Xenogears than Kula World please.

PSN and XBLA both have their good points, Virtual Console could be great but the pricing puts me off and I don't see anything on Wiiware that's worth getting excited about right now.

I'd agree with tis - xbla just edges it - early on it was poor, but microsoft have really got their act together. Shame the pricing is a bit steep, I agree that sony have got that right - i couldn't believe it when i found the psone games on there for £3.49 each! puts most of the other console's downloadable titles to shame...
Sony have really focussed on quality, but i think that disappointing feeling every thursday is harming that a bit... there's nothing worth going into the shop for!
I don't have a wii although I already own all the classic nintendo games so sound like it would be largely redundant for me.

I should point out that this feature was written before Wipeout HD came along, and I'd now say that it provides the "must have" title the PlayStation Store needed.

I think Wipeout HD is worth a mention.

And the fact that Sony seem to be testing the 'full game' water by offering Burnout Paradise for 24 quid.

You should probably update the article then surely? :)

surprised Sony doesn't release more Ps1 games, like they have on the Japanese and US store

guess there must be licensing problems or something

Ooh, is that a patch?

Was this written before Wipeout came out? No mention of Warhawk, Tekken DR, Everyday Shooter,Flow or Eden either. Utterly bizarre. Also Bionic Commando is on PSN too. Seeing as you mentioned it as one of the 360s must haves.

It's all the more embarrasing for Sony, since the Japanese PSN store has tons of PS1 games on it. Could gotten Sony a few more brownie points here. However, I agree apart from the interface and pricing, XBLA is clearly the best.

Its a shame, we won't ever see any classic PSone games that never made it to the UK from overseas via the store. Not unless region coding is abandoned and we can grab them for the US. Can't see anyone working on localisation on titles that old. Still no excuse for no FF7 etc from Square though! If they shove out Ergheiz instead I'll cry.

@DanWhitehead

Just a suggestion, but pointing that out might have been best done in the article? Was released over 2 weeks ago.

We know the answer now, of course, but it's interesting to note just how quickly this once-fanciful notion has become the accepted norm

Oh no it hasn't...

360 closely followed by PS3 at the moment. Apart from lost wind, the Wii is a bit crap at everything. Instead of Wii60 it really should have been PS360 as the console duo to own.

As I own all three I can honestly say the Wii is now a dust ball awaiting the next mario or zelda game. Whenever I go to the shops to buy a game I rarely if ever even look at the Wii version of anything.

If they shove out Ergheiz instead I'll cry.

Widge May Cry. It has been released at least on Japanese PSN. I don't know who that'll effect other areas. But it may be indicitive.

If you ask me, the clear winner here is the consumer

the psn has nt found its killer app? so apperently warhawk and wipeout don't exsist? or gt5p? and bionic commondo is also available on psn! sony sits awkwardly betwwen the 2 others because its undate is on thurs? whys that awkward? pathetic xbox bias again im affraid

I've never played anything so disappointing in my life. Probably up there with Sword Of Mana on the GBA and KOTOR on Xbox in my "most disappointing games ever" list.

"As a gamer, you should own a 360 and a PS3, and you should pick the best of both to fill your gaming days"

Ive tried that but honestly didnt find the time. Damn there are still many 360 games and xbla games i want to play but never will. Its better to consentrate on the platform you prefer imo.

I chose to have two 360s instead, one for each TV so that i can play games whenever i have the time.

W-w-w-what?!? WipEout HD isn't a killer app for the PS3's PS Store? :?

It is in my book... :)

Yeah, sorry Dan but you've lemoned yourself proper there. It's not as if WOHD was a surprise, or the fact that it was going to be essential - these hallowed pages said so themselves months ago.

Other articles get an edit for a typo. I think this one needs a serious rework. Or I can summarise:

Sony: too few games overall, though much less crap, and a solid stock of brilliance, and cheap into the bargain. Demos optional. Getting better fast, and the library of PS1 needs to be exloited NOW.
Xbox: A set of great games drowning in a sea of sh*t. Aging/solid interface about to be improved. Costly. Hamstrung by download limits and lack of standard HDD. Standard demos. On a roll, perhaps complacent.
Ninty: Trading on past glories. Shit interface. Shit value. Whoo - SD card storage sometime in De Foutyore. Must try harder.

Result: tie betweeen PSN and XBLA. PSN must contunue it's improved form. XBLA mustn't rest on it's laurels. Ninty needs a kick in the man sacks.

"As a gamer, you should own a 360 and a PS3, and you should pick the best of both to fill your gaming days"

Ive tried that but honestly didnt find the time. Damn there are still many 360 games and xbla games i want to play but never will. Its better to consentrate on the platform you prefer imo.

I chose to have two 360s instead, one for each TV so that i can play games whenever i have the time.

i have to agree with you here, though my choice of system differs, i dont have the time nor money to commit to more than one system, hence why my wii sits collecting dust.

Dan Whitehead:
As this is a website why did you not re-write a two week old article before uploading it?

Magazines have editorial deadlines. Here's a free tip. You don't.

Honestly Eurogamer, if the guy is this lazy then replace him with a Pole. They'll work twice as hard for half the money.

P.S.
Best gaming dlc choice for your money? Itunes AppStore. Amazing value

Another person here surprised at the omission of WipEout HD. I'm addicted to gaming all over again and there's not a night elf in sight.

Well, if we're going to get bitchy about what they didn't mention, I'll toss in a few things that made my XBLA experience fantastic (besides GW2 and Braid):

Pac Man CE
N+
Mutant Storm Empire
Ikaruga
Rez HD
Zuma

I've played the headline games on a friends PS3 and there's some good ones there too, but I still think 360 has the edge. Super Stardust and Everyday Shooter are good games, but in the shooter space I still prefer GW2, Ikaruga and Rez personally. Warhawk isn't my cup of tea though, I don't play a lot of online multiplayer games (too old and not enough time to practice). Wipeout looks great though. All depends on what you like I guess, although in my experience 360 owners tend to own more XBLA games than PS3 owners own PSN games, so maybe that's an indication of the relative success so far.

Why no mention of the lack of storage space for Wii downloaded games... or the mess up that Sony had with early PSone games like Medievil and Spyro 2... causing them to withdraw them and the latter has still not reappeared, much to my disappointment.

A nice article though... to my mind the PS3 offers the best service with a nicer selection of top quality games that actually feel like "proper" games, perhaps thanks to the larger file sizes allowed, something that clearly affects the 360 and Wii more. The Wii is the most disappointing for me, mainly because I feel many of the games are overpriced but also because the lack of storage space has put me off downloading them... I really cannot be bothered with copying stuff too and fro from the Wii's internal memory to an SD card and back everytime I want to play a game.

P.S. Will someone sort out the size of the damn "Edited by" text!!! Does it really have to be in bold and twice the size of the normal text?!? Sheeeesh!

I agree with most posters here that right now, the PS3 is ahead. 360 not too far behind, but definitely behind. Wipeout HD, Burnout Paradise, Warhawk, Quest for Booty, Siren, Gran Turismo, and then there's the host of great smaller yet (often) original games (Fl0w, LocoRoco, Super Rub-a-Dub, Velocity Bowl, Parachute thingy, Tekken 5, better EyeToy games, etc. - a vast range of quality and originalstuff), these days it also gets the multi-platform stuff (yes, including Bionic Command c.s.) and add typically much better value for money and being able to view prices in real currency. In fact, most podcasts and websites recently site PSN as an absolute standout feature of the PS3, like in the 1up yours podcast even this weekend, and fairly unanimously so too even when they are generally more pro-360.

@ DanWhitehead

Fair enough; this article was clearly written some weeks back, but it should have been updated to consider Wipeout HD. Just a few lines, a mention of it and removing the comment that PSN is lacking that killer app would have covered it.

For those commenting, I think perhaps the likes of GT5P, Burnout Paradise and Warhawk were not considered was because they are not available solely on PSN. Whilst I don't necessarily agree, I can see why the writer may have taken this point-of-view.

Also, I find it beguiling why Sony hasn't added more of its PS1 classics to PSN - stuff like Rollcage, Colony Wars, Alundra and G-Police would go down an absolute treat. Further, there is a host of classic Psygnosis games which need bringing back (Barbarian 2, Shadow of the Beast, Discworld), which is just puzzling as to why they haven't yet. There must be very few licencing issues in the way.

It's a bit odd that the article doesn't mention how XBLa will soon allow users/indi developers to post their games. Surely such an awesome feature is worth mentioning? Sure, 99% will be complete shit but there is bound to be a pc indi dev that makes an awesome game for it.

Oooh Angry Internet Men are out in force for this. How dare you suggest that console x has a superior selection of tired re-releases than console y. RAARGHH!

Also, I find it beguiling why Sony hasn't added more of its PS1 classics to PSN - stuff like Rollcage, Colony Wars, Alundra and G-Police would go down an absolute treat.

G-Police has been on PSN for quite some time. Rollcage, however, needs to be on there ASAP.

I'm sure that G-Police is available to download from the PSN... and possibly Colony Wars too, although I may be mistaken...

And I, for one, would not like to see ports of games like Shadow of the Beast on the PS3 despite the fact I bought it for the Amiga as it was a very pretty looking, technically impressive (for its time) but ultimately horrible game totally lacking in any real excitement or gameplay. The music was nice though.

"PSN doesnt have its defining game".

Dunno when this article was sritten, but its incredible there is no mention of Wipeout HD which is one of the best racing games this generation, and only costs £12. Then you have GT Prologue and Warhawk too. All 8/10+ quality games.

I'm pretty sure Shadow of the Beast, or one of its sequels, was also impossible to actually complete without using a cheat code. I watched the animated intro disc more than I played the game, I know that much.

"Wah wah wah the PS3 didnt 'win', go rewrite the article until it wins or I will cry."

Grow up.

@Arwin: You're seriously putting up Super Rub-a-Dub and the EyeToy games as pro arguments for the PSN? Hmm. fl0w was an pretty demo looking for a game IMO - nice idea, but not something I'd personally pay money for. I haven't played it but Quest For Booty got pretty mediocre reviews. If we start pulling those kinds of examples in, XBLA has a ton of mediocre stuff out there ;)

Lol @ people posting a list thinking that that automatically makes it the best. Why don't you make a counter list as well?