X360 vs. PS3 Face-Off: Round 12 Comments by Richard Leadbetter

@frostcircus: please continue this research! i need to know (:

Ha ha ..... Nameless! I wondered whether youd recognise the old tag!

@johnnybrn - Yes its seems that is the case - I shall take my impartial rule breaking self and remain silent in future whilst lovingly enjoying my options! lol :))

juuken: "Give the 360brats more to cheer about, why don't you?"

Please don't try and turn these comments into a spin-off of N4G, keep crap like '360brats' over there, thanks.

I have most of the usual Comment Page Monkeys ignored and it was (almost) acceptable in here for a while, with people discussing the technical aspects of the comparisons, but there are more coming to take their places it seems.

@ Arbiter

My housemate's boyfriend owns a game shop in town, so yes, I have access to both, although I have yet to play the full retail copy of GRID. However, I played the PS3 demo and witnessed screen tearing on a par with PGR3 and Richard said that the retail copy evidenced the same problems as the demo - and seeing as he provided video footage of what he witnessed, I am inclined to believe him over a forumite who regularly bemoans Eurogamer as being biased against the PS3 (MGS4 review comments stand out as recent examples) and whinges about 360 fanboys (often justified, though).

With regards to the swearing, I have no problem with swearing in and of itself, when it is appropriate - but your use of it smacked of someone who was far too emotional, especially as it was over what percentage the screen tore on a PS3 title. Out of all the things to get so upset about you have to resort to swearing, this really shouldn't be anywhere near the top of the list.

But I guess that's fanboys for you - obviously, saying anything which may in any way denigrate the name of whichever vast multinational corporation to which they have sworn allegiance, is a sin which can never be forgiven, nor forgotten.

Edit: Typo-wurms, eating me grammer.

I would like to request less fanboys (including myself), and more cats. The Bourne Cat-spiracy, WoW: Wrath of the Cat King, the Virtual Cat-sole, Battlefield: Cat Company, Super Cat Bros. Brawl, Happy tree Cats and Ticket to... Cat. They practically write themselves. Badly, I realise, but there are plenty of reasons for more cats.

@Darren
"Why do people care so much about Achievements?"

It's not about points or completionism, but well structured achievements can genuinely add something to a game. So that when you complete a game normally you should still have some tracked targets to attain. If a game just does points for getting to a certain point it more or less misses the point.

The Gamerpoints are a bit silly in that they aren't consistent. Each game has to give away 1000 points so a dev who bothers to be creative ends up giving away less points for something where a lazier dev can end up just spliting the points over a couple of achievements you'll get automatically for completing the game.

@ DFawkes:

Cat of Duty 4: Modern Catfare
Alone in the Cat
Metal Cat Solid: Cats of the Patriots
Mario Cat
Cat Theft Auto

I for one welcome our new feline overlords.

I can' believe I missed Metal Cat Solid. I'm ashamed of me right now. Alone in the Cat sounds a bit dodgy though. "In" the Cat? A vet sim of some kind I suppose.

You forgot about Soul Catibur IV. And GTA: Liberty Kitty Stories.

And Purrfect Dark.

"I can' believe I missed Metal Cat Solid. I'm ashamed of me right now. Alone in the Cat sounds a bit dodgy though. "In" the Cat? A vet sim of some kind I suppose."

Either that or Animal Farm has gone interactive DFawkes :)

@ DFawkes (guess I need to make that clear now, or as a response to Arbiter, I'm making even less sense than usual!)

I see it as an existential exploration of what it truly means to be a feline in today's canine-centric, Pedigree Chum-obssessed world, where the rights of innocent cats are trampled on in order to preserve the current status quo, as they are blamed for everything from stealing human owners from existing dogs; flooding veterinary practices the length and breadth of the country, preventing elderly dogs from receiving the cataracts treatments their years of loyal companionship entitle them to; and driving up the prices of Bakers Complete as they place an ever-increasing demand on Britain's already beleaguered pet-food industry.

Or, you know, it could be that infamously pitch black level from Counter-Strike.

I forget which.

Cat Of War
Cats In Conflict
Cats of The Old Republic
Cat Racer
Ninja Cat - Black
Cats Of Rage
Cat Band....


I could go on for hours, more cats EG we demand it!!!!!

@ bioreit

You're right it's hard to be a cat today but I think they can hold their own against the canine fanboys.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkLjtxLx-...

@ Arbiter

I'm aware that you weren't swearing at me - I was merely highlighting that your evident exasperation revealed a too-high level of emotion over something that really shouldn't boil your blood to that extent.

I agree that I cannot speak of first-hand experience of the full game. However, all I can do until I can arrange to do so is reiterate that Richard has provided video evidence of what he claims, as well as using some very expensive kit to extract said evidence.

You, on the other hand, seem hell bent on defending the PS3 version of GRID, as it seems to me that you have interpreted this as an 'anti-PS3 attack' on Sony, perpetrated by Eurogamer.

I personally think that EG do a fantastic job, especially considering we get this site for free and therefore see no contradiction in my pointing things out and even occasionally defending them in certain instances. Even more so because we actually get to communicate with the team - the personal touch, if you will.

Sony, on the other hand, couldn't give a monkeys what you think of them - neither do Microsoft and neither do Nintendo (by and large, although they have undoubtedly realised the profits to be made in occasionally pandering to the fans).

I guess I'm just bemused by this undying, fanatical devotion to a gargantuan company...

Oh, and

Cat Driver: TIBBS

;-)

@bioreit
Suprisingly in-depth answer to my yabbering. I'll stick with my implied bestiality sim.

Here's some more for no reason apart from splitting up the serious posts and of course bigging up the cat love (but not in the way I just said). Apologises for any that've been done.

Cat of Judgement (like the PS3 game, but with a cat staring intently at the cards)
Devil May Cat
Cat Turismo
Guild Cats
Iron Cat
Singcat
Star Wars: Cats of the Old Republic
Oblivion: The Shivering Cats
World of Catcraft

Catmand and Catquer: Cat Alert
Descent: Catspace
Cat Wars: X-Cat vs. Cat-Fighter
Grim Catdango

Where is the Super Street Cat 2 HD remix love?

Cat Life 2: The Ginger-Tom Litterbox
Feline Fantasy VII
Cat of Juarez
Cat Recon: Advanced Dog-Biter

The Orange Cat box.....

Kitty of Heroes
God of Paw
Feline Rider
Sam & Manx
Mortal Tomkat
Crazy Tabby
Pussy Squad
Moggy Harvest - kinda tenuous, but the only alternative I could come up with was Moggy Biscuit :/

Mortal Tomkat, classic :)

Time for the big cats:

Master of Olion (Engrish ftw!)
Tigger Wing
Legend of Zelda: Lynx Awakening
Too Puman
Ikacougar
Leopardy City Stories
Gundam vs Cheetah Gundam
Ace Bobcat 6

I really must have something better to be doing...

Sony lost again - what's new!

Feline Fantasy Cattics
Mickey Mouse: Cat of Illusion
Street Cat II
Turok: Cat Hunter

The Catfather : The Game
Culdcat Saga
Kat Fu Panda
Viva Catata
Banjo Catzooie : Cats & Bolts

i have to say that i really dont give a shit which console gets +2 fps or slightly brighter textures, its just nice to see the games running as vids. gives you a good feel of what the game is like to play, i think you should introduce gameplay footage into your reviews!
good stuff as always eurogamer.

Please stop with these pointless fucking articles. Say the differences in the review or just stfu about it.

I really want one of these to come out as a huge win for Sony now - just to see if the same people turn up and whinge about these articles being pointless...

"If we're talking about stupidity. I have friends who are on their fifth 360 due to faulty hardware. Now THAT'S stupid if you ask me. I learned after number 3."

Wait, are you actually implying that you ever had a 360? I presume you had a ps2...

We Love Catamari
Moggowind
Pawtal
Fleadom Fighters
Halo Pussycat How Are You Today

It's time for today's Spot the Troll/Sensible Person Being Sarcastic competition!

That's right, it's Shaka. Thanks everyone for playing, have a good night, wherever you are.

Richard Leadbetter is really the biggest so called professional fanboy ever!!! really who else talks like that besides true fanboys..lol

And lol at the quake compare-quote-''Perhaps more pertinent to the actual gameplay, long-range fog is extensively pared back on PS3.'' ...LOL you cant be serious!!!!

And same with the grid, looks so bad that he has to slow down and zoom in the vid to tell...LOL!!!!!!

Catan

Cat of Duty: World at Roar
Soldier of Feline
Sid Meower's Pussies!
Halo: Catnip Evolved
Spray Wars: Enemy Territory

@shaka: politics is for you. an ability to totally ignore facts and spin spin spin.


you're a natural.

@Arbiter - Playing Dead Rising via VGA or HDMI @ 1360x768 are we? Try dropping the resolution down to 1280x720 and the "unholy amount of tearing" you're referring to will be substantially reduced to only occasional tearing as it is with component video @ 720p. I found this out by playing with the resolution settings.

These articles are dire. How many times do we need this guy to tell us 'the 360 version is better, but they're basically the same'. Give it up?

another day of euro 360gamer love towards everything 360

lies lies lies.

time for staff who have unbiased opions to come and work for you and not m$ puppets

"time for staff who have unbiased opions to come and work for you and not m$ puppets"

Sooo... does the tinfoil hat come included in the PS3 box these days?

I'd really prefer a controller with rumble myself.

Where is the famous and advertise ps3 POWER??? It seems its all a marketing trick... XBOX once again rules

@banfoi

You are so bitter. Its very obvious you know. Cant afford a 360???

360 versions are better...

but hey once there are must have titles (other than metal gear) on the ps3 I will get one...

since I am assuming at one point the 360 will start showing its age...

bigger problem is one of my best friends just bought a ps3 and I have a 360!

cruel world! I think I will stop talking to him now ;)

Since when is that a big problem? Having read an article that states an opinion that some games are better on 360? That's not a probelm, it's a solution! You go to his house and play MGS4, he comes to yours and play Tenchu Z (perhaps not the best example but stilll my favourite game on 360).

Now neither of you has to buy both consoles but can still play the exclusives! Unless you actualy stop speaking to him, in which case it could be, as you say, a problem. But keep speaking and I think you'll come out with more numerous exclusives AND have acccess to the PS3 ones \o/

EDIT: Sorry, can't have post without bad cat puns.
Cat-bert
Catadroid
Super Catio World
Lylatcats
Koudelcat
Vagrant Caty
Bishi Bashi Caty
Microsoft Cat Simulator
Kingdom Cats
Dynasty Furriers
Time Cat-sis
Catworm Jim
Cats (Worms, but with Cats)
Lord of the Cats Battle for Middle-earth 2: Rise of the Cat King

Someone e-mail me, when they get used to programming for the ps3, all that cell power going to waste.

3rd party devs, abit of advice, try using the spu's. It works alot faster. doh/

"Someone e-mail me, when they get used to programming for the ps3, all that cell power going to waste.

3rd party devs, abit of advice, try using the spu's. It works alot faster. doh/ "


Hehehe, what a gloriously stupid piece of posting there. Thanks mate, you brigtened an otherwise boring afternoon!

/wanders off chuckling to self.

igot ps3 version mt got xbox version and they both have screen tear and to be truthfull ps3 versioN looks more superiour thats y game trailers were saying the ps3 version they were showing was 360 version cos ps3 looks superior iam getiing pissed off with euro slagging ps3 theres nowt on 360 THAT can touch drAKE MOTORSTORM AND MGS4 AND HAS FOR MULTI PLATFORM RELEASES BEING BETTER ON 360 LOL COD BETTER ON PS3 EVEN GAMESPOT SAID IT BATTLEFIELD BETTER ON PS3 BURNOUT PARADISE PS3 HAS CAUGHT UP 360 IN AMERCIA AND JAPAN IN FACT ITS SELLING MORE IN THEM 2 REGIONS WHAT WIV RESISTENCE 2 KILLZONE LITTLE BIG PLANET ALL 360 GOT IS GEARS 2 WHICH SINGLE PLAYER WAS BORING BUT GRT IN MULTI PLAYER THIS GAME LOOKS LIKE MORE THE SAME

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Being understood. It's great. Try it.

tnt_2008

Acually playing Battlefield is just that bit better on 360: color depth, frame rate, loading, texture is just better on 360. MGS 4 what is so special about the graphics (i'm about 3/4 way through - I think!) ?...haven't seen anything to me that confirms this can't be done on 360 - even many games on 360/PS3 that have come before MGS 4 do look better (I'm not talking about the cut-scenes).

Fable 2, Too Human, Alan Wake, Banjo & Kaziooe, Splinter Cell Convection, Alan Wake, Forza 3, Halo Wars, Cry-On..just a few exclusives to 360 - and yes Gears Of War 2. It's amazing how you convince yourself that Killzone 2, Resistance 2 will be 2nd coming when in fact they were both 1st games shit fps. And aren't they sequels too!

What are you talking about! I played Drake - and was not over impressed by the graphics. Very good for a PS3, but nothing that proves the PS3 is more powerful then 360. Oh! Killzone 1 was SHIT. Resistance was a poor mans fps (though PS3 has limited choice so claim this is the best in the world), and the graphics were just plain average.

I do have both console and so far have only played 5 games on PS3 - MGS 4, Motor Storm, Drakes Fortune, Rachet & ClanK. I have Tekken 5 for online...Also have a 360 with - Halo 3, Dead Rising, Half Life / Portal (better & cheaper on 360 ) Gears Of War, Flatout, Call Of Duty 4 (better on 360), Ghostr Recon AW 2 (much better on 360), Guitar Hero, Virtua Fighter 5 (cheaper, online and looks/ plays better on 360), Virtua Tennis (same reason as VF 5), Vina Pantna, with classic games now in HD downloads like: Ikargai, Rez etc.

The point is for games,Variety, online, graphics - framerates - price (games) - downloads - exclusives - pc/360 games - multiformat - THE WINS EASILY.

actually it was said even on this site or vidoe gamer that battlefield better on ps3 i think that thetwo big gamsites ign and gamespot said they are identical also forza 3 lol if its anything like forza 2 or should i say forza 1 cos that what it looks like lol what with its realsitic damage model lol watch what happens when gt5 gets released and every 1 proclaims it to be the most realstic driving sim ever rember u heard it hearwe got gt5 which graphically at least blows forza oh and by the waysplinter cell is multi format and how long have we waited for the mythcial alan wake lol banjo kazooe lolgod of war mt god warof gonna piss on gears as for killzone game spot ign and all other major sites are saying it has got the best graphics ever seen on a console so wel will have to wait andseeabout gamplay but things look promising and has for too human read videogamer 247 its suposed to be shit halo wars lol dont ya remeber halo 3 the worst fps i have played in yrs i mean for a triple a title dont make me laff resistence2 gonna rock and if fable is like the 1st which i purchased for xbox its gonna be shit and as for ghost recon cod sorted that prob out and drake has got better graphics and gameplay the queers of war truth the the truth is after a massive head start ps3 is out selling 360 in amercia and japan for such a shit console its done well and if its so shit y u by 1 lol u make me laff u idiot oh and mgs4 only the second biggest selling game in history which all other reptible game sites regonsize as a fantastic game i could give u so many quotes from numerous sites saying graphically it is the best looking game out there on console and internet is freee ill say that again internet free with new update which rivals xbm lol so lets get it right mt oh and i forgot that my console is reliable as well and heres the clincher if u got the money and aint a peasent and can a afford a 50 inch lcd wiv surround sound can apreciate its a blueray player as well oh and by the way truthfull cod 4 fact is superior on ps3 check most gamesites for proof off that lol cant wait till u see god of war rain on ure sad parade