Jump to navigation

Table of contents

Page Previous 1 2 Next

Advertisement

World of Warcraft: Questing Self-Help Article

MMO PC Article by Oli Welsh

18 April, 2008

Page 2 of 2. <- Page 1

4. A little role-playing never hurt anyone

We're not asking you to speak Orcish, or indeed ever to do anything that resembles role-play with another player. But everyone should at least try thinking about what's appropriate to their character when it comes to making their questing decisions.

If you're a paladin, make it a priority to scour the earth of demons and undead with the power of Light. If you're a hunter, take time to track down and test yourself against the world's most mythical beasts. If you're a rogue, take an assassination mission and do it properly: sneak past the guards and kill only who you need to.

The rewards for this are partly material - taking class-appropriate quests often leads to class-appropriate loot - but mostly immaterial. You get a stronger sense of who you are and what your place in the world is, a stronger sense of motivation in your questing, and better stories for your time.

5. Ditch the drops

A simple one: where possible - and where it doesn't interfere with your larger goals - avoid quests which require you to pick up a number of "drop X from monster Y". Straightforward kill-counts are easier to track and nine times out of ten, quicker to complete, because they don't rely on invisible, capricious and cruel drop-rates. Drop rates will be the bane of your life when it comes to crafting and reputation-grinding, so there's no need to involve them in questing more than you have to. Which, unfortunately, will still be quite a lot.

6. Get a good quest tracker

'World of Warcraft: Questing Self-Help' Screenshot 3

Another simple one. WOW's quest log is fine, and the automatic quest-tracking is decent, but there's still no substitute for a good third-party add-on quest-tracker. We're partial to MonkeyQuest, ourselves. Basic quest descriptions in tooltips; colours indicating how close to completion you are; the actual levels of the quests themselves; a smart, fast interface; at-a-glance indication of which quests are relevant to your current location; and best and simplest of all, an indication of how many of your quest log slots are full - none of these features are in the game's default interface, and all of them are indispensable to painless questing.

7. Push yourself

The easiest and fastest way through the game is only to do level-appropriate quests - that is, the yellow quests in your log. But it's not always the most fun, nor the best way to learn how to play your class well.

Regularly test yourself against quests that are a little too high-level (only orange ones, mind - red is largely a waste of time, solo). It can be lengthy and cause expensive repair bills, but it's more exciting. The challenge can wake you up out of levelling autopilot, and teach you a lot about how to get out of sticky situations and make the best use of the abilities of your class. It's also entertaining to pick same or lower-level quests, and play them by deliberately taking on multiple monsters at a time.

8. Learn 2 read, noob

'World of Warcraft: Questing Self-Help' Screenshot 4

This could be the hardest bit of advice to follow - we still struggle with it ourselves - but honestly, it's one of the most important.

Read the quest descriptions. Yes, really. We mean it. Not necessarily every word of every one - over time, you'll develop a sixth sense for which ones are worth poring over, and which aren't - but as a general rule, make an effort to read why you're doing what you're being asked to do. The writing in WOW varies from wonderful to terrible - and the majority of it is straight-down-the-line average - so this can feel like pulling teeth. But it's worth it. Characters come to life, situations start to make sense, and quest chains in particular are a lot more fun when you actually follow what's leading you from one step to the next.

Questing blind, without rhyme or reason, effectively makes you a robot or a psychopath. What's the point of being in this world, if you're not prepared to immerse yourself in it a little? We're quite serious about this, you know. And we'll be watching over your shoulder to check. Do it.

9. Don't ever go to Desolace

The clue's in the name. It's ugly, barren, tediously huge and awful. Really, seriously, just don't go there.

Advertisement

Are you excited about World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King on PC?
View Eurogamer readers most anticipated games

Thanks!

Want to comment on this article? Log in, or register!

Comments: 1-36 of 36 in total

Poster
Comment Low-scoring comments hidden. Log in to see them!
mikeck
18/04/08 @ 10:30
#1
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Oh come on...Desolace isn't that bad... ;)
Adam_T
18/04/08 @ 10:32
#2
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Sooooooooo Tempted to pick up my 46 Dwarf and carry him on, loved it while I was playing but just didn't have the free time to justify it.
Gurgeh
18/04/08 @ 10:35
#3
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Don't go to Desolace and...
- miss out on Expert Cooking if you're Horde
- miss out on Mauradon - although these days you'd be lucky to find a group for it
- miss out on Argent Dawn reputation and lore



Scribble
18/04/08 @ 10:40
#4
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Don't go to Desolace unless...
... you're on a PVP server and want to do 30-45 without hitting Stranglethorn Vale.
anomagnus
18/04/08 @ 10:41
#5
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
pointless

dropped back in after the recent patch to speed up leveling

since TBC, azeroth is a ghost land. You'll spend all your time getting to 58 ASAP, and you need not even bother going to more than 6 or 7 zones

wow is like an ever growing tower, as it gets higher and higher, theres less and less at the bottom levels, and all you're doing is climbing up empty and barren stairs, only to get to the top, and find theres another tower there, but this one requires you to walk in circles every day for 5 weeks
mikeck
18/04/08 @ 10:42
#6
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Mauradon is actually worth doing...and when I was playing I got some good items from that area...especially from the dyrad outside the horde village - one quest she gives you for The Underbog I think gets you a pretty swanky choice of items (for around that level at least).
President Weasel
18/04/08 @ 10:49
#7
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Don't go to Desolace and...
- miss out on Expert Cooking if you're Horde (you only really need cooking on one character anyway)
- miss out on Mauradon - although these days you'd be lucky to find a group for it (it's not a very good dungeon and the loot/rewards aren't worth the hassle unless you're a rogue and want the thrash blade)
- miss out on Argent Dawn reputation and lore (who needs the rep? read wow wiki for the lore if you care)

-miss out on a huge, nigh-featureless zone full of mobs who love to aggro on you
-miss out on a huge, ugly zone with the flight point and inn in one corner, most of the horde quests a long run away from the inn and flight point, and most of the quests requiring you to spend ages travelling
-miss out on those bloody centaur quests.

Choose life! Not desolace.
Bitkari
18/04/08 @ 11:02
#8
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
I really do agree with what's written here.

The desire to game the system and level your characters as fast as possible really does defeat the point of the game.

Try to forget that you're slowly working your way up a massive skill spreadsheet and loot table, and you might just enjoy yourself!

The best thing about WoW really isn't the gameplay - it's the world in which the gameplay exists. Enjoy that, and you're really getting the most from WoW.
dudefella
18/04/08 @ 11:06
#9
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Did I miss something? What Argent Dawn lore and rep is in Desolace?
TheDudesRug
18/04/08 @ 11:11
#10
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Been a long time since I was ther but i think Desolace is your first quest interaction with AD. Top left corner by a tower iirc?
Tomnd
18/04/08 @ 11:12
#11
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
i downloaded the quest helper addon, it takes the grind out of grinding and the fun out of the game. Seriously it tells you the route u need to go for all quests and you end up not reading the quest info just kill 10 of these retrieve this guys head. Turns you into a WOW zombie.
gaztech
18/04/08 @ 11:13
#12
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
"Been a long time since I was ther but i think Desolace is your first quest interaction with AD. Top left corner by a tower iirc?"

Yes thats correct :)
Benno
18/04/08 @ 11:32
#13
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
If you want to level up in world of warcraft fast then download questhelper from

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/9...
Katsumoto
18/04/08 @ 11:47
#14
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Heh, got to agree with some people here - i'd much rather do Desolace than Fucking Stranglethorn Vale! I've had some of my best memories in Desolace - I do concede its probably more fun as Horde than Alliance though.
M83J01P97
18/04/08 @ 12:02
#15
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
You know... rumour has it, Desolace is getter a Duskwallow style make over in the near future along with a couple of other areas that can fill entire level brackets.

But then how many times have Blizzard hinted at something which never comes true...
mexalen
18/04/08 @ 12:26
#16
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Well, thats just the way I used to play anyway. But a good read. I am just lucky I am not playing that game anymore for more then 2 years now. Don't bother asking me, why I even read that article. I am bored, that's why...
Thalanos
18/04/08 @ 12:35
#17
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Funny. I have trialed 3 MMOs (SWG, WOW and EVE for the record) and never really found them fun. They were good for 2 days but then I found the repetition incredibly boring. I always wondered whether I was doing something wrong!

...So I read this article to see if I could work out what it was...

Aside for trying to do every quest, I did actually follow all of your other advice. I guess MMOs just are not for me. I will probably never understand how people can spend months playing them without getting bored.
Edited 1 times, most recently on 18/04/08 @ 13:36
Ronan_Crawford
18/04/08 @ 12:42
#18
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
I like point number 9. I tried so hard to do most of the quests there but I felt that it was too big to do without a mount and that the place was just dull.
a8a
18/04/08 @ 12:49
#19
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
-miss out on a huge, nigh-featureless zone full of mobs who love to aggro on you

Lol, have you played the rest of the game? Blizzard has made about 5 beautiful zones... and saturated the rest of the game with barren wastelands. Lets do a checklist (from the perspective of someone who has never played Alliance):

Durotar
The Barrens
Thousand Needles (ok, this one has some features, at least)
Tanaris
Silithus
Desolace
Badlands
Searing Gorge
Burning Steppes
Blasted Lands
Hellfire Peninsula
Netherstorm (so its a PURPLE barren wasteland)
Shadowmoon Valley

Blizzard are good at featureless... its a shame that it makes for some boring goddamn zones :(

For reference, my favourite zones are: Winterspring, Nagrand, Stranglethorn Vale (aesthetically!) and Ferelas.
Edited 1 times, most recently on 18/04/08 @ 13:50
allen
18/04/08 @ 15:19
#20
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
How can you say Searing Gorge and Burning Steppes are featureless. Unless maybe you never played at 60 and never did any of the raids in brm and surrounding lorelol. There is plenty going on there though.
a8a
18/04/08 @ 15:40
#21
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
I didnt say "questless" or "loreless" though... my point was simply that they are aesthetically exactly the same as 80% of the rest of the zones, which gets kind of old... Shadowmoon Valley is just Burning Steppes at level 70.
Stompy
18/04/08 @ 16:17
#22
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
"A long walk isn't a waste of time if you like the sights on the way..."

Are we talking about a real long walk or clicking on a screen?
Whitewalker
18/04/08 @ 16:25
#23
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
I actually stopped playing WOW because of Desolace...if I'd only known then what I know now.

You've been warned - don't go there...
Lov3
18/04/08 @ 16:36
#24
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Good subtitle man :). Peter Sellers, classic. Now to read the article...
Lov3
18/04/08 @ 17:08
#25
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
OK, super nice article :). Here is my take (expansion) on some of the points:

Point 3): There are certain chains that are worth it, and certain ones which aren't. Off the top of my head, the best chains are:

Westfall: the defias quest chains. Well written, not too difficult to complete, and end up with you running deadmines and killing van cleef. Good rewards, good XP, and basically a staple of levelling alliance side. Everyone you meet has probably done this at least once.

Darkshire: Every quest here is absolute gold. Well balanced, good stories, and some dark ghostly goodness! Make especially sure to do the embalmers quest, the Morbent Fel quest (the boss of Darkshire), Mor'Ladim, The story of jitters (the back story of darkshire), and especially The Legend of Stalvan. Stalvan has a lot of walking, but it's dark, and the pacing and writing is superb as you uncover the clues of who stalvan is, and the crime that he committed that haunts his restless soul. The rewards and the end are also good :)

Very little else made an impression on me until the level cap. Give em a shot.

Point 5): When monsters are 1-2 levels lower than you (i.e. still yellow, but you outlevel them) these quests are an xp goldmine. Do them. You can kill 50-60 of the buggers in 20 minutes or less. The more drops you need to get, the more regular the drop rate, and the less frustrating the quest is. 10 drops or more is ideal.

Point 6): http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/9...
Probably the best mod i've ever had for WoW. It just points you in the direction you need to go, and off you trot. It even adjusts itself for when to go back to town, when to take a griff, and what to do when you get there. When you're questing with friends, you can see everyone's objectives together on your map so you know exactly what everyone is doing where. Super good.

Point 9): Never go to desolace.
Edited 1 times, most recently on 18/04/08 @ 18:11
Setaro
18/04/08 @ 18:00
#26
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Desolace is actually one of my favourite zones. It has a beautiful bleakness about it, and an all-pervasive sense of death/decay, plus everyone should visit the Kodo graveyard.

Ride through Desolace at night and it's one of the most silent, eerie places in the game.
Aragorn!
18/04/08 @ 18:42
#27
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
The thing about Desolace is that unless you go via Feralas, not only is it hell to do on foot, you have to do one of the most boring walks in Azeroth via Stonetalon to get to it.

Having said that if you want to get the Scarlet Monastery quests then Desolace it is...
AOFanboi
18/04/08 @ 19:17
#28
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Don't tempt me back, devils.
Smog
18/04/08 @ 20:35
#29
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
And don't spend your entire WOW sessions with Thottbot open in a number window telling you how to do the quests before you've actually read the quest yourself
teknohead
18/04/08 @ 22:33
#30
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Write about something interesting like, I don't know, ANYTHING BUT WOW.
Eraysor
18/04/08 @ 23:08
#31
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
LightHeaded. Best addon ever.
Atropos
19/04/08 @ 11:06
#32
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Too true. I always hated the obsessive way of playing WoW, or any MMORPG for that matter. Instead, I'd use my rogue to do seriously hard red quests, often sneaking through an entire area without fighting once. It was very inefficient, but the sense of accomplishment was huge. And it was cool to be have Quest-reward daggers way WAY above my paygrade. I highly recommend the rogue for fun Questing in WoW.

Similarly, I never got above level 18 in EverQuest. I figured out I could make a whole lot of money buying bone-chips cheap in the newbie-areas and sell them at ridiculous prices to lazy hilh-level necromancers... So I became a full-time bonechip-dealer. It was silly, stupid...and fun!
Edited 1 times, most recently on 19/04/08 @ 12:10
Fleeties
19/04/08 @ 16:00
#33
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Alot of the zones are just as bad as Desolace, anything west or south of the Barrens really.
Psyclapse
19/04/08 @ 20:56
#34
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
This guide is aimed at people who have already played WoW once. Nobody who was new to the game would need to be told to take things slowly and enjoy the journey. When I first played WoW, the month it was released in Europe, I played it slowly because it was a new game and that's what you did with new videogames - enjoyed them.

Only the people who get obsessed with the game and its mechanics, or long-time players need to be told to take things slowly. But they can't. You only get to lose your WoW virginity once. You only get to watch a classic movie once for the first time. Everything after that is a faded glory.

My advice for new WoW players is this: Don't read forums. No matter how often people tell you to get this or that mod, or to play like this or that, ignore them. Resist. Because the instant you start playing like them you're not playing like you. You're playing a system, not you.

Be yourself.
evilbert
19/04/08 @ 22:36
#35
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Everytime I read one of these articles I'm tempted to whip out the credit card and resubscribe. Then I force myself to turn off the computer instead and walk away. I now have the credit card in hand and the mouse pointer hovering over the start button.

When I click that mouse will I hit Turn Off Computer or All Programs\World of Warcraft...?

Should I play or should I go? :)
Trikk
20/04/08 @ 03:38
#36
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Anyone having trouble questing, grinding or leveling in WoW needs to immediately kill themselves in the most painful way possible.

Comments: 1-36 of 36 in total

Want to comment on this article? Log in, or register!

X View gallery