Wolfenstein Comments by Tom Bramwell

The last couple of Id games have IMO been relatively boring game wise... doubt this will break the mould.

Really? Thought that Doom 3 and RtcW where a blast!

This one has "MEH" written all over it

Even if RtCW wasn't the greates shooter in sp. The mp was brilliant. As such, I'll buy this for the MP and take a half decent sp experience as a bonus added in.

Killing Nazis never gets boring.

If the online side of this is just a hd makeover with a few new maps etc then I am sold.
I loved the online side on the original xbox, so many sessions lasting until the birds started their dawn chorus it almost ruined me lol

what does MEH stand for? literally. I know it means "shrug off" or something.

game wise. wonder if it's best on PC... hm

It doesn't stand for anything does it? I thought it was the noise one makes when something looks pretty plain. "Meh, looks a bit lame to me"

'Meh' is a meme. The majority of people who use it would never actually make the sound in 'real' life but they copy (imitate, if you will) its use from their experiences online, and so it propagates....just like a virus.

kmittal82 has meh written all over him.

I just wiktionaried it. Apparently Simpsons did it.

Meh = Mostly ennui here.

Wolfenstein 3D was the first FPS I ever played and I've had a soft spot for the franchise ever since. I'm really looking forward to playing this one :)

@Azazel

I do actually, seriously bored at work :D

People who say 'meh' are wankers.

I fall on the Meh side of things.

Incidentally most people do actually go meh a few times a week even if they don't realise. It's the expression we make when a friend, relative or aquaintance says something that they think we will find facinating and we actually couldn't care less about. Example.

Yesterday my sister was excited about hellboy 2 and was telling me all about it. She ended her sentence with the classic "What do you think" and I instinctively simply went "meh..I guess it's ok" actually meaning I could care less as I simply don't think it's going to be a good movie.

Raven really have gone downhill recently :(

@MrWonderStuff

I like your one line philosophy to classify people. Well done!

Hopefully there will be some nice and shiny bluish-plasmathrower thingie for some nasty, colorful eye-bleeding effects :-)

Other than that, it could be fun. Uber Soldats in RtCW were pretty tough (I remember shooting them from behind the corners all the time). Hmm, and usually extra long range combat was generally prefered way of "solving" situations in the game...

Considering id's input and history; why doesn't this game use 'id Tech 5'? What engine does it use??

Soldier of Fortune 2 from Raven was excellent in MP, horrible in SP and I've heard the rumors about SoF3 which I then decided to stay away from.

Ergo: Meh

My girlfriend, who was a big fan of Wolfenstein 3D, went "Meh" over this.

like people who post on eurogamer have girlfriends!

I would like to be more bored at work.

@ThePissArtist

It uses Id Tech 4.

@Snooze

Soldier of Fortune 3 had nothing to do with Raven.

" bettered (perhaps even battered) a few months later by Medal of Honor: Allied Assault"

I'm sorry but I totally utterly DISAGREE in big bold capital letters with that statement. I thought MOH was pants. The collision detection sucked. The multiplayer was laggy, jerky and I kept getting snagged on walls n stuff. RTCW multiplayer on the other hand was a smooth, slick joyous ballet of blood and carnage.

SO TAKE THAT STATMENT BACK YOU BAD BAD NASTY REVIEWER.

the mp on rtcw was and still is one of the best online shooters i have ever played
if this can match that im sold.

I only played the last Wolfenstein on the PC and never played multiplayer.

I seem to only hear good things about it. Do people still play it on live? because I am interested in picking it up for the xbox

meh...

I wish they would revamp Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory aswell...

@MoFo: agreed, MOH:AA also had the most uninteresting ending in the history of games. And the faces were weird. And the AI was annoying (how come they can sit behind crates, stick out their guns and randomly spray the area, but I can't?). And the FUCKING PSYCHIC SNIPER LEVEL is the worst ever example of blatant cheating ever in a game, ever.

MOH:AA was rubbish. RTCW was ace.

Q.E.D.

@stallion185

They did it was called Quake Wars : Enemy Territory - and as much as I really tried to like it I didnt. Great shame and a missed opportunity IMO

Am I the only one who thought RtCF was a good game right up to the point it went all sci-fi? Like Fahreheit, that was the moment I turned off never to play again.....Mind, it did mean I missed out on the MP too, which sounds like was a bad choice by me. Not the first then.


And yes, Eurogamer readers with girlfriends indeed. What a joke. Mines a wife now, which means I don't get to buy half the games I used to be able to :(

Thanks for the info, Turambar.

I wonder why they didn't use Tech 5? Weird.

"Alright, so they've still gone with slow-motion, but then we've seen surprisingly little of that in the FPS genre"

Really? I presume you missed Chaser, Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil, Fear, Fear expansions, Perfect Dark, Project Snowblind, Alpha Prime, Timeshift, Project Origin, Mirror's Edge, Red Steel, Resistance: Fall of Man, Jericho, Max Payne 1, Max Payne 2, Total Overdose, GUN, Call of Juarez, Nitro Family, Painkiller, Sin: Episodes, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, probably many others I can't remember and about a billion mods that used this tired old gimmick. Yeh, I know one or two of those are technically third-person shooters, but since most TPSs are just FPSs where you happen to be able to see your character, that ain't too relevant.

The trick was getting old even by the end of the game which popularised it - Max Payne - yet it's blighted way too many games since. Fear notably suffered, given it had the best AI since HL1, yet this was totally undermined by slo-mo that enabled you to run into a room and headshot everyone before they'd even moved. It reduces combat to a running-in-treacle crawl where aim is the only skill involved (even that is greatly simplified) and thus only provides enjoyment to the vacuous who gawp at how "it looks real cool when I be shootin' them fellers real slow like", rather than enabling battles to develop some pace, depth and excitement. Developers need to ditch this sadly fashionable crutch which they rely on to draw people in with style over substance.

Hmmm... not sure about this. Quake 4 was rubbish so hopefully the id/Raven combination will have pulled their collective socks up a bit since then. I enjoyed RTCW, but it was solid rather than excellent. One to wait for the revews on imho.

I liked Quake 4. Multiplayer was reminiscent, somewhat, of Quake 3 Arena, and the single player campaign was entertaining, if not revolutionary. Certainly more than I expected after Doom 3.