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15 September, 2008

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mungolikebeans
15/09/08 @ 16:50
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Yeah but can i listen to my Enya album whilst playing?


PrivateJoker
15/09/08 @ 17:10
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@chufty "Would the 360 version get a 10?"

Lol, the 360 would meltdown if the dev's attempted a port of this blistering masterpiece, and I aint a fanboy, sold my xbox360( which I loved in its day) in March this year as it had hit its peak in my opinion and the PS3 was the only and best option: Blu-ray won the format war, LBP(GOTY without doubt), Home, MGS4, and i must say how the PSN has improved tremendously since I joined in March, the quality thats coming through there is awesome and you'll never see that on XBLA or WiiWare i'm afraid due to their file size limits. There isn't a day where I think, damn it!, wish I aint traded in my xbox like that CNN reporters kid but, he'll grow up one day.
citizenHUNTER
15/09/08 @ 17:17
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If I ever have money and time to play it, then PS3 here I come, finally.
pac666
15/09/08 @ 17:22
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Thank the lord. If Sony have any sense they will advertise the shit out of this. Real True HD gaming..only on PS3
EricHendrix
15/09/08 @ 17:27
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Can't wait. £12 is a steal for such quality.
Ryze
15/09/08 @ 17:34
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PS3LOL

Damn! They got me. I'm a total sucker for WipEout - and with motion controls it's pretty much unmissable.

Unfortunately I'm shit at it but the 1080p 60fps plus motion controls & online play will keep me hooked.

Sony - Psygnosis bailed you out.

Killer app = PS3 purchase.

WipEout 3 will be my first PS3 (PSN) purchase. I'll see when I can buy it on impulse.

I need a new couch and wooden floor first.
Apologie
15/09/08 @ 17:39
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PS3 is the best value for your money, multiplayer for free, great games, blu-ray etc... and, withought a doubt, it's the only truly revolutionary piece of hardware in the market "Cell processor", would you consider revolutionary upgrading your computer??? because that's what the Xbox360 is, a medium spec computer, nothing more... i cant call that new gen.

great review and good game by the way... cant wait to play it.

PS: before someone starts calling me bad things, i must say that im not a fanboy, i have both consoles and like them both... i just happen to logically prefer the Ps3.
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marronthered
15/09/08 @ 17:45
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"they really should advertise the hell out of this game". imo they shud get PSN cards out there before xmas!

i really want this game btw..... you can just tell its gonna be an assault on the senses!

/watches PSN trailer again drooling at the mouth.........
trebell
15/09/08 @ 17:48
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"Lol, the 360 would meltdown if the dev's attempted a port of this blistering masterpiece"

total nonsense.

this looks great but once again you're totally ingoring the facts of what each machine can do and choosing to swallow marketing crap when you make a statement like that. There is little between them and all the evidence has proved that already. I can't believe we still have to read this all this time later.

Back to the game and away from the hyperbole (Real True HD gaming only on ps3.. well this is only on ps3 yes)..

Looking good and a good price. One to get.
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MrED209
15/09/08 @ 17:57
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£12.99? So is this a download game as opposed to an in-store boxed game?
MrED209
15/09/08 @ 17:58
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£12.99? So is this a download game as opposed to an in-store boxed game?
patchbox360
15/09/08 @ 18:01
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Gears of War 2
trebell
15/09/08 @ 18:11
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foxhound: apologies. Was stupid of me.

Back in the real world lets just enjoy a great game.
Apologie
15/09/08 @ 18:13
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@jizz

Cell
IBM, SONY, TOSHIBA
Transistors
(mil)
234
Performance
(gigaflops)
230

Xbox 360
processor
IBM
Transistors
(mil)
165
Performance
(gigaflops)
77

Pentium 4
Extreme Edition 840
Intel
Transistors
(mil)
250
Performance
(gigaflops)
26


you cant argue with that, Cell is revolutionary and can drastically contribute to better A.I and Physics in games... wich makes the Ps3 very untapped in terms of power and much more future proof then any of it's rivals, some designers even say that creating games for Cell is far less complicated than writing for PlayStation 2, they just need some time to adapt... its proven that the average PS3 software, till today, only managed to use 10% of its brain... imagine what will happen in the future.

Yes, the Ps3 is not an upgrade, it's revolutionary both in format (blu-ray) and in architecture (Cell Processor), not a fanboy, just stating facts here, and it's withough a doubt the only nex gen product in the market.
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Calgon
15/09/08 @ 18:37
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*shakes head in disbelief at some of the most ill informed comments Ive seen on EG*

This isnt any technical landmark at all its a game thats 60fps at 1080p... even on the PS3(dont even start on the 360), theres very little to be amazed about, the shots are even taken in a photo mode... where are the usual comments about it being missleading OR the graphics being simplified to acheive high framerates at a high res? Oh its a Sony exclusive? gotcha ;)

Apolol is still the most amusing "technical expert" in gaming I see and whats this "before anyone calls me a fanboy" OMG!!!(I almost spat my tea out)... posts still full of complete bullshit statements but the funny kind of bullshit which no one in their right mind beleives or takes seriously, so I geuss thats why some people "tololerate" him.
bonker
15/09/08 @ 18:37
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"Strange that the first game to tempt me into getting a PS3 is an £11 quid downloadable game. "

Prolly cos, shock, horror, it's not a shooter ...
holsty101
15/09/08 @ 18:37
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"tjlazr - I tried listening to my brother's pendulum album in the car yesterday. My head nearly melted soI swiftly retreated to the safer realms of 90's rock. Hey ho."

IMO Pendulum are the drum & bass/electronica equivalent of a manufactured boy band/pop idol style lowest common denominator cheesy as all hell POS.

Try albums by these bands

4 Hero (2 Pages/Creating Patterns/Play With The Changes, dance albums with *gasp* real musicians)
Leftfield (Leftism)
St Germain (Boulevard)
David Holmes (Bow Down To The Exit Sign/The Free Association)
Orbital (In-Sides/Live at Glasto)
DJ Shadow (Endtroducing/The Outsider)
Roni Size/Reprazent (New Forms/Return To V)
Underworld (Dubnobasswithmyheadman/Second Toughest In The Infants)
LCD Soundsystem (Sound Of Silver)
Rae & Christian (Northern Sulphuric Soul)

15 years ago I only used to listen to rock/metal, but there's a lot of (IMO) good dance music of various styles out there, you just need to know where to look for it ... and not start with/judge a whole genre on (IMO) shite like Pendulum.
Apologie
15/09/08 @ 18:38
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Calgon

your very welcome if you want to argument, but saying pointless/stupid things like that is sad, very sad.
miiiguel
15/09/08 @ 18:41
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ok, it's understandable, while one had to wait 2 years for a 9 game, and the oppurtunity to say "the powa of the c3ll!", that thing that was supposed to power from fridges to cell phones.

Anyway, it's also funny to hear that one prefers "da c3ll" because that is "next-gen" not because of what it really does (or don't), but I'll take note of that, soon a next-next-gen will spawn, the speech will change by then.

"Prolly cos, shock, horror, it's not a shooter ... "
You forgeot to say "or racing"... oh wait...!

I can't see the Apolol's messages, but "before calling me a fanboy"...., and don't believe the "I own both", because I know the guy and he doesn't.
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Calgon
15/09/08 @ 18:45
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Id give it a whirl if I had the console is it anywhere near worth buying a PS3 for?... Not a chance.

Then again even LBP has failed on all accounts to interest me beyond taking a good look after asking myself "whats all this fuss about LBP about lets see" and then it was like oh thats it? Again might be worth a try but worth me buying a PS3 for? Not seeing it at all personally.

I still say alot rides on how well GT5 is recieved that game is a big one for Sony if that doesnt turn things around for them then it could spell trouble... not to mention the budget being spent on it, killzone 2 also has alot riding on it but marketed well it will sell regardless of the quality/bad reviews.
Rash'
15/09/08 @ 18:45
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miiiguel Last time I check both Burnout and CoD4 9s and on PS3...
tobsen
15/09/08 @ 18:45
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Horray for Sony! This will be the racing game of all racing games this generation :P
Calgon
15/09/08 @ 18:46
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Apologie sorry but stick to what you know... your comments regarding hardware are laughable to anyone with more than a basic understanding of them.
bonker
15/09/08 @ 18:51
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"Cell
IBM, SONY, TOSHIBA
Transistors
(mil)
234
Performance
(gigaflops)
230

Xbox 360
processor
IBM
Transistors
(mil)
165
Performance
(gigaflops)
77

Pentium 4
Extreme Edition 840
Intel
Transistors
(mil)
250
Performance
(gigaflops)
26 "

If only flops made games ...
Rash'
15/09/08 @ 18:51
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Calgon, Just as you're personnally inclined to not "get" LBP, I'm personnally inclined to say that until 360 has a game that matches this graphical fidelity I can't believe 360 can match it. But I'm happy to be proved wrong... not by technical mumbo jumbo, but by the games that are produced.
miiiguel
15/09/08 @ 18:51
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@Rash', I meant exclusives. Anyway..., this almost made me fork for a PS3, but then *someone* remind me of Apolol and minions. Thanks a lot... :/
GamesConnoisseur
15/09/08 @ 18:52
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I was very heartened to see a great score for WipEout HD and certainly a must buy and another reason to MUST own PS3 certainly (other than LBP, MSG4 and Blu Ray for me!).

I sighed heavily when seeing the usual techno quote guy dissing X360 and say PS3 is supreme being or similar. We know PS3 certainly have a lot of potential and it innit this a shame that its took PS3 this long to make its point so resoundingly clear?!

Uncharted, Motorstorm, Rachet & Clank are few other exclusive that PS3 would be glad to own but certainly not head or shoulder above that of the other exclusives on other consoles. LBP and WipEout HD and perhaps MSG4 are certainly more interesting of the titles out now or coming imminently.

Hard Rain are one other title that I think would be a real feather in the cap for Sony but still some times away.
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Rash'
15/09/08 @ 18:52
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miiiguel, Let me direct you to Stardust then...
soviet_
15/09/08 @ 18:53
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About time the Grand Overlord "Cell" showed us something worthy other than MGS4.

Very nice though
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Miths
15/09/08 @ 18:58
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"I'm no fan of dance/rave/whatever kids call it today music; but this game fits that genre so well. "

I wouldn't be caught dead just listening to the music in this game on my stereo/iPod (though I would have had a different opinion ten years ago), but for me it also fits the game (playing WipEout Pulse on the PSP at the moment) really well.
But custom playlists is certainly a nice option to have - and also one it would really only be reasonable to expect more games to offer than is currently the case.
15/09/08 @ 19:00
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@Calgon...

This isnt any technical landmark at all its a game thats 60fps at 1080p... even on the PS3(dont even start on the 360), theres very little to be amazed about, the shots are even taken in a photo mode...

Im not disagreeing with you mate, just interested in what you mean by that.
Calgon
15/09/08 @ 19:00
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Rash' you are taking the piss right? Its already been done just not in the same way... most of the workload is spent on acheiving the framerate and resolution... its not like its doing more, theres not alot of textures and theres not alot of geometry... there is NO reason to beleive this cant be done on 360... "dont give me your technical mumbo jumbo = I will cling onto things I know not to be true aslong as I am able to".

It doesnt even look that special anyway... and thats just looks, technically the only impressive things are 1080p at 60fps... you wouldnt even admit it short of the exact game being ported to 360. Is this because like Apolol because you prefer to live in denial about PS3 being more powerfull? Is it because it was one of the reasons you justified the cost of the console and without it you'd feel like a bit of a jackass? Perhaps, I dont really care I just find some of the things said here absurd you dont even need to know much about the consoles to see theres alot of bullshit in this thread thats been imprinted by Sony's shameless marketing tricks/lies.
Rash'
15/09/08 @ 19:08
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Calgon, There's hasn't been that much for you to come in spouting your opinionated backlash. Most on here have been praising the fantastic game and price. Whether the game looks special or not is certainly a matter of opinion and yours, it's plain to see, is in the minority.
Calgon
15/09/08 @ 19:08
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DaemonB Photomode you mean?

Well since this isnt gameplay circumstances a lot of processing power and time is free'd up from things that would otherwise be eating up processing time and bandwidth. Even if it is a little different in this game in that regard... theres almost always post processing effects and Anti-Aliasing added to the capture = Its not like a direct screen grab when someones sat playing it(what you'll be seeing when you sit down and play it).

Anyway I've grown tired of the never ending sillyness of it all regarding console X vs console Y... some fanboys really need to beleive what they want to beleive theres no discussing it with them its useless.
Calgon
15/09/08 @ 19:11
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Rash' hang on I never said it doesnt look good, it does... I just said its not some landmark on its technical merrits because theres very little reason to beleive that. You yourself stated you beleive this is a game the 360 cannot acheive? That is pretty amusing and exactly the sort of comment I was talking about.
Rash'
15/09/08 @ 19:11
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Calgon, I'm curious to hear why you feel so compelled to come into these threads like a sour grape trying to dampen everybodies enthusiasms.
Rash'
15/09/08 @ 19:14
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Calgon, I'm was being fractious as you remarks regarding LBP were completely unrelated to topic and unnecessary.
ThePissartist
15/09/08 @ 19:20
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"Lol, the 360 would meltdown if the dev's attempted a port of this blistering masterpiece"

What, a PSP game in HD?
Calgon
15/09/08 @ 19:21
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Calgon, I'm curious to hear why you feel so compelled to come into these threads? like a sour grape trying to dampen everybodies enthusiasms.


I didnt I was going to write a pretty sensible post(which I got around to) but reading through the fanboy comments I felt the urge to leave the thread not before pointing out what was wrong with those comments.

I rarely post in PS3 threads(check my post history and see for yourself) and now I remember why. Really I never bashed the game in anyway just gave my opinion of it, someone who visits 360 threads as often as you do will know compared to any 360 release this thread would cause confusion... "where are the trolls???" would be the question on everyones mind.
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Rash'
15/09/08 @ 19:22
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Calgon wrote: "Rash' hang on I never said it doesnt look good, it does..."

Well let me quote your earlier post then shall I?

"It doesnt even look that special anyway... and thats just looks"

So which is it?
Dizzy
15/09/08 @ 19:23
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>£12.99? So is this a download game as opposed to an in-store boxed game?

Both.... it actually is PSP version in HD.
Calgon
15/09/08 @ 19:25
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Rash' so a game that doesnt look special cant still be a game that looks good?

By special I mean exceptional which the visuals are not, its about what one would expect from a HD wipeout game if you ask me.
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Rash'
15/09/08 @ 19:26
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Calgon, And from there on in continued to feel "urged" to return? Oh, come on. I rarely see you on these pages but more often than not you have very little in the way of positive things to say on the PS3 threads.
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trebell
15/09/08 @ 19:28
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presumably the reviewer is well aware why most games aren't doing 60fps at 1080p though?

it's all about resource balance and where they have a lot more to spend that on then those 2 aren't possible.
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Rash'
15/09/08 @ 19:29
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Calgon, You aked where are the trolls, well a few have just chimed in.

How about this for technical achievement: it's a DLC. Definately not possible on 360.

/Tongue firmly lodged in cheek
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ThePissartist
15/09/08 @ 19:31
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PSP game in HD - it's gonna be 1080p@60fps.

I still want the game.
Aname
15/09/08 @ 19:33
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Ah, have to laugh at "PSP game in HD" comments. Isn't that like saying Halo 3 is an Xbox game in.. Oh no, that was sub-720p wasn't it.. You get my drift.
Widge
15/09/08 @ 19:34
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Apart from the fact that its been reworked from the ground up as opposed to ported and upscaled...
Ryze
15/09/08 @ 19:35
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@Apologie

JUST FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK OFF.
ThePissartist
15/09/08 @ 19:35
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lol@Aname

A PSP can't do Quake 3, but if Quake 3 was ported to a PS3 (or 360!) it'd be in 1080p@60fps (at least).

It's a perfectly valid point to make.

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