Wii Sports Resort Comments by Oli Welsh

So, between the extra controller, the Wii balance board, and a pair of MotionPlus extras the PS3 doesn't seem quite so expensive, and after the Wii goes away, it's always SingStar that lasts the whole evening.

Sorry Ninty, I'm becoming less and less convinced by the day. I really wanted to love the Wii but the games just aren't good enough.

So we get 1 free in the box then have to buy more if we want to play it multiplayer?

Plus i take it the will be releasing new Wii Condoms as it doesnt look like it would fit on with the current one.

Will they be makeing Wii Motes with this technology just built in? Because the thought of now havin g to buy a Wii Remote a Nun Chuck and a Cube that should of been there in the first place sounds extremley expensive

I was going to swap my wii for an xbox 360 this week.......argh.. do I, don't I? >

Nice.

As long as they flesh out these games a bit and the remaining few they haven't shown are up to scratch, this is looking good.

Of course, the sooner they get that Motionplus thing working with a Star Wars game, the better. :)

So this WiiMotionPlus dongle thingie is admission by Nintendo that the original Wiimote wasn't accurate enough then? It is in effect a hardware "patch"? ;)

Sounds quite good, but the amount of peripherals that are being added to the Wii is slightly worrying. You going to have to fork out quite a bit if you intend to play this in mulitplayer.

hope they bundle at least 2 in the sports pack

I reckon with the timing of the announcements, Nintendo are going to try and get the motion plus used in clone wars, which ought to be very good. We'll have to see what happens, but it's the obvious choice.

@Doctor_What

I've just thought, with that new microphone that was announced in conjunction with animal crossing, I'm now slightly worried over what someone's going to come up with in regards to a group singing game.

Next Year!!

Wait. Wait. So the motionplus yoke has another port in it's bum that the nunchuck can plug into? It's not one or the other?

At least one good thing to come out of their conference then.

I know 50% of Wii owners will probably buy the game..but it would have been nice to see this given free to every Wii owner(although admittedly it would probably cost them $ 300 million +). I would guess Red Steel 2 will use it.

golf game using Motionplus please!!!!

NintenDoh! finish your hardware design before you release a product next time. Better graphics in the box would be a help too.

Expensive underpowered fad of a console.

I'm not a fan of the massive amount of peripherals (on all platforms) we've been seeing recently, but this one looks pretty decent.

Also, putting 'worldwide' and 'spring' in the same sentence doesn't seem right.

Game of the year 2009! :)

@ bartacus how can you saw the Wii is unfinished hardware?, ninty never said it was going to have next gen graphics, just fun gameplay.

anyway Ms take the crown for under developed hardware, i'm on my second xbox, 1st one went back twice in 24months!!

If it's free with the game then I've no worries.

The Wiimote has been fine for all the games so far, so if this free addition makes it better then I can't really see what the moaning is about.

Once they annouce how much a standalone attachment costs, then we'll see about moaning! ;)

Sounds awesome. I wonder how much the unit will sell for seperately and if Nintendo will manufacture enough to cope with demand.

I was looking at their prototype controller being unfinished. Needing an extra piece to finish the design is poor really it should have been included in the 1st place.

Its all extra expense to support such an underpowered platform.

I hope they include improved versions of the original Wii Sports.

"Also, putting 'worldwide' and 'spring' in the same sentence doesn't seem right."
Haha, I hadn't thought of that yet. :-)

'Sounds awesome. I wonder how much the unit will sell for seperately and if Nintendo will manufacture enough to cope with demand. '

The problem with wii hardware now is the ebay scalpers, I am pretty certain due to them demand is higher as people can't gets thing as they are all on ebay, like most I refuse to pay a penny over what I should be doing.

"it should have been included in the 1st place."

Probably..but it depends if the tech was available at the time....and more importantly the additional costs.
People balked at the original cost of the Wiimote and nunchuk..if the cost of the tech at the time was an additional $20-$30 then it would have really hampered the multiplayer side of things.

What might have cost them $20 -$30 2 years ago ...may only cost $5-$10 now.

Bartacus: The controller wasn't unfinished; it functions perfectly reliably and performs more than adequately with all of the software that has been designed for it. The new attachment is an improvement, not a fix.

Honestly, you speak as though you've never seen a hardware revision before. Did you boycott the original DualShock for the same reason?

Does this hardware provide better motion sensing for existing games or will only new games, designed to use motion plus, benefit from it?

"Whatever magic Nintendo has packed into this mysterious little plastic cube - we have absolutely no idea, and can't get an answer - it works."

It's a gyro.

http://www.invensense.com/news/071508.html

Two questions...
Is the sword game one-for-one entirely, or half pre-canned like the boxing, and does this new controller suffer from gimbal lock like the last one?

Does this hardware provide better motion sensing for existing games or will only new games, designed to use motion plus, benefit from it?

yeah exactly what i been wondering... presumably there's some extra tech in the cube so will be an extra data stream of positional data (rather than just improving the sensitivity of the existing data stream) - in which case only titles written for it will work with it... but i'm only guessing.

Presumably it's going to cause a bit more battery drain to keep the gyro spinning. Shame they didn't just do this in the first place -- accelerometers are insufficient when you have to make guesses based on what gravity seems to be doing.

Balls!

/owns 4 controllers, knows that having only 1 MotionPlus dongle will cause huge arguments.

Nice captions to the pics, especially the first one. made me giggle a bit

Wii MotionPlus is what we were promised, what we expected, what we wanted all along. It's what the Wii remote was always supposed to be

After convincing everybody that that's what wii did the first time, though, I think they'll have trouble taking the line

"Yeah, but last time we exaggerated a bit, this is real motion sensing, that'll be 60 quid, please, plus 25 for a second MotionPlus sensor"

Wii Fit was an easy sell, just like the Wii was originally, it was easy for the casual games buying public to understand. This, though, and the potential compatibility issues between future games that support it, require it or neither are just going to make people confused. I think its take-up will be more akin to the zapper than to Wii Fit.

And the mini-games that come with it sound quite niche and dull, apart from the fencing.

Fucking frisbee throwing? An extra plug in bit for frisbee throwing?

I'm a fan, but they're talking me out of it very quickly indeed. I'm not up for this at all, so I think I'll put the pennies towards a PS3.

@ Mentalist(air)

It's free and they've not announced all the games yet.

I'm not saying it's the second coming of Christ, but some the misinformation spouted in these comments is laughable.

Interesting... any half-decent remake of the fantastic Waverace would make me buy a Wii on the spot.

Unoriginal b*stards, copying Nintendo like that.

Oh.

Lets hope they FINALLY release Wii Airplane in this package. The Island this game is based on (and used in Wii Fit) was made years ago; I am getting fed up of having to run round it, flying would be much nicer!

Come on Ninty share the goods.

Wii Airplane links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG201q53b8U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xctEPmZMNg

Sounds like a case for operation .M.E.H.

It's free

It's not, ONE is bundled with the game, at $49.99.

Which probably works out at £40 for Wii Sports Resort in the UK (same as Mario Kart), but that could mean extra motionplus-es will be anywhere from £10 to £35. I'd guess £19.99.

I'm not saying it's the second coming of Christ, but some the misinformation spouted in these comments is laughable.

There are issues with multiple controller types already for Wii without bringing in a distinction as subtle as what motionplus represents. Just look at the balance board / no balance board dichotomy on that bollock-whipping skiing game.

Nintendo are obviously looking at the great success they've had with Wii games that bundle new control methods with them. I just think this might be a step too far.

I would imagine £9.99 is the ceiling price for this to become mass market. £4.99 would be great but as Nintendo have rarely (if ever) sold anything at a loss it's not as likely at that price point.

Really depends on the cost of the Gyro chip, which has been out for a couple of years now and used in applications such as cameras to avoid the "shakes"; hence it will (or should) still allow the handset to vibrate.

I find it amusing how some here are insinuating this tech should have been there to begin with, like the tech was viable to such a commercial extent. Honestly, I despise some of these fickle posters. I agree however that now the tech is more feasible, there should be a concerted effort to make it standard.

I find it amusing how people constantly shoot down whatever Nintendo have up their sleeve next without playing it/getting close to it. The DS was written off against the PSP, the Wii was written off against everything (boy did those 2 Cubes taped together comments grate after a while), Zelda was written off as a Cube port (like that makes any difference to the enjoyment of a game), Mario Kart was written off due to the bikes and for a potentially crippled online mode etc, and ends up having a rather genius and rock solid online mode that appears to be immensly popular. Attach rates get ripped to pieces despite titles for Nintendo systems (many exclusive) pretty much dominating worldwide charts week on week. And my favourite one, the Wii written off for not having 'traditional' games for the 'veteran' gamers, despite many Wii titles offering the exact sort of gameplay found in THE original games such as high score gaming, multiplayer gaming and simple, fun concepts.

I sense a concern amongst many so called 'hardcore' gamers that 'their' industry is being changed beyond recognition and eaten up by the casual masses. A place like this is always going to have a very skewed vision of the market as a whole, and the general opinion here seems to be about as accurate as the so-called analysts in the long run, and of course on the interweb people never admit they were wrong.

I'm not Wii-motely bothered what Nintendo do; to me this is the last Resort.

Nice find Manic Marvin - how the hell did you get that when the mighty EG has to guess ?

/adds kudos

Nice find Manic Marvin - how the hell did you get that when the mighty EG has to guess ?

/adds kudos

@Doctor_What (quote)
"So, between the extra controller, the Wii balance board, and a pair of MotionPlus extras the PS3 doesn't seem quite so expensive,"


Remember.. this is just and ADD-ON to EXISTING controllers..

They're NOT making you buy a whole new controller with the extra thing built in...

*cough*rumble*cough*

"I sense a concern amongst many so called 'hardcore' gamers that 'their' industry is being changed beyond recognition and eaten up by the casual masses."


I'm a hardcore gamer.. and I *AM* concerned.

You hardly ever see "proper" hardcore games like mario anymore.. it's always mainstream shit like grey shooters (which can be completed with no real effort) and football games.

Spill.

@smelly

How long have you been around the industry?

Because I've been playing for something like 20 years and can't ever remember the level of quality and variety of choice being so high.

@secombe

You are a wise man.

K-Project: "Fucking frisbee throwing? An extra plug in bit for frisbee throwing? I'm a fan, but they're talking me out of it very quickly indeed."

Your reasoning here is both sound and logical, because it is quite clear that Nintendo spent millions of dollars' worth of R&D on the MotionPlus attachment solely for the purpose of accommodating this frisbee-throwing minigame, and it will never be used for any other games ever again.

Sid Nice: "I'm not Wii-motely bothered what Nintendo do; to me this is the last Resort."

I quite like that one, actually. :)

>Because I've been playing for something like 20 years

then you'll know that modern games are unchallenging rubbish :-)

"Whatever magic Nintendo has packed into this mysterious little plastic cube - we have absolutely no idea, and can't get an answer - it works."

It's a gyro.

Maybe if the Eurogamer staff were threatened with a gyro once a fortnight then they might work a bit harder. :)