Wii Fit Comments by Oli Welsh

@kangarootoo

I think I half answered your question later. As I mentioned, you can usually increase your lean muscle mass about 1 kg per year, so the weight gained you experienced is unlikely to be solely muscle gain. All of the stuff I've said is pretty much rule of thumb though, and there are always exceptions. However, I suspect you'll find you were eating more calories, which usually converts to fat if you're not using them, plus you'll probably have increased the amount of glycogen (carbohydrate) and water your body was storing in order to help it with the additional exercise you were doing.

Its quite a common training strategy to mass up and then go lean, then mass up again then go lean etc.

Great, another thread full of cunts who don't give a fuck about the game, just want to slag of the Wii.

/gives up on Eurogamer

@kanga:
Were you by any chance playing big brain academy in that period?
Maybe your brain just got 8 pounds heavier?...

Ahh bodybuilder types and professional sports/nutritionalists.

Somewhere between learning a bit of science for some mickeymouse course and being in the gym a lot themselves they completely lose track of reality.

Diet, fitness, training and so on are all very individual things. Generally the best advise you can ever give out (over the internet at least) is "Eat right, work out". Other than that, the answer is to stick with whatever works for you.

People who come on internet forums and spout science to try and tell people what will work for them to lose/gain weight or get fitter don't really cut much ice with me I'm afraid.

No offence though.

For some, this game will make them fitter, for others not so much, for others, not at all (as it's left gathering dust in a draw with the rest of their Wii kit).

@JayPee

+1

@AcidSnake

LOL

"Great, another thread full of cunts who don't give a fuck about the game, just want to slag of the Wii."

What game ?

@a.d.venturer

"However, I suspect you'll find you were eating more calories, which usually converts to fat if you're not using them, plus you'll probably have increased the amount of glycogen (carbohydrate) and water your body was storing in order to help it with the additional exercise you were doing."

So in essence you are saying my arse got bigger, but the baggier tracksuit bottoms hid the difference. Nuts.


@JayPee

"Somewhere between learning a bit of science for some mickeymouse course and being in the gym a lot themselves they completely lose track of reality."

Hmmm, I get the feeling that you yourself haven't studied physical development in any way at all. The way you describe "some mickey mouse course" suggests your standpoint is based more on tabloid style bias than actual knowledge. Fortunately the clear absence of actual knowledge means it is unlikely anyone will actually be offended by your post.

The crouch option in most FPSs can at last result in the same pain as in real life.

You can actually get a qualification in PE??
Can you walk? YES
Can you run? YES
Can you differentiate between the two? NO...I mean yes...shit..

Sorry! Failed!

twincoil is right

this IS whats wrong with gaming

But of course it'll sell well, GIMMICKS always do

Nintendo is so amazing!

The Wii has gathered a new breed of casual gamer; the old, women gamers and the mentally ill. I can't see these people doing push-ups on a Wii-Fit-Board.

I wasn't very excited by this until someone pointed out to me the possibilities of this in conjunction with the wiimote and nunchuk. Imagine road rash steering with your weight whilst beating people sensless using the wiimote or a proper boxing sim, this will be huge.

@ kanga

It's based on the fact I have a masters of engineering degree really.

And you may note the way I said "no offence".

The basic arc of my point is that anyone telling people how it is best to lose weight over the internet and then feeling smug about it is absolutely nuts. Everyone has different goals, body types, metabolisms etc. that there is no hard and fast rules except the ones I previoulsy stated.

Feel free to disregard my post (as you say you should), but the fact that you not only replied to it, but quoted its contents implies that the opposite was in fact the case.

"Wanna lose weight? - Do body building or sprinting!" - yeah, sure.

BTW kanga, my post wasn't really referring to you anyway. Your reply to another poster actuall reinforces my point rather than weakens it.

Sold!

@jac

yeah a roadrash type game could be fun i agree

but they'll never make it

instead we'll get weight training or some shit

Interesting how ninty keeps on focussing on 'perfect people' in their pr shots and reduces the actual game exposure to an absolute minimum.

@jaypee

Shit, you're right. I'll stick to uninformed speculation from now on...

@xerx3s

It's quite amazing how Nintendo's marketing department has gone from utter sh''t to pure brilliance in the space of two years.

Practical advise rather than sanctimonious, smug "I have done a course" knowledge would have done, but whatever floats your boat. I'm sure the first thing you would say to a 50 year-old woman, who is 60lb overweight and has bad hips would be:

"The amount of calories burnt during exercise is dwarfed by your body's post exercise consumption of calories (EPOC). This is elevated more by intense exercise, and even more by modifying your body's metabolic rate by increasing your lean muscle mass. Increasing your lean muscule mass by 1 kg is approximately equal to doing an additional 30 minutes cardiovascular exercise every day for free. So body building ~= sprinting > jogging > gentle walking for weight loss. Of course, jogging is still good for cardio vascular (aerobic) fitness. There's also the additional benefits of skeletal insulin uptake that occurs with intense exercise.
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[Edit to fix grammar that made me seem less smart...]

Christ, eat better than you currently do, get some cardio and if possible some resistance done each week. End of story, no qualifications are needed for those of us not considering the 2012 Olympics. Most people know to take it easy and see how their body reacts, those that don't, well, that just improves the gene pool!

JayPee, ok lets hear it, how much do you bench?

By the way, this is what Arnie would tell the 50 year old woman - in his own words

"The greatest feeling you can get in a gym or the most satisfying feeling you can get in the gym is the pump. Let's say you train your biceps, blood is rushing in to your muscles and that's what we call the pump. Your muscles get a really tight feeling like your skin is going to explode any minute and its really tight and its like someone is blowing air into your muscle and it just blows up and it feels different, it feels fantastic. It's as satifying to me as cumming is, you know, as in having sex with a woman and cumming. So can you believe how much I am in heaven? I am like getting the feeling of cumming in the gym, I'm getting the feeling of cumming at home, I'm getting the feeling of cumming backstage, when I pump up, when I pose out in front of 5000 people I get the same feeling, so I am cumming day and night. Its terrific, right? So I am in heaven."

@Arnold_


Yeah, no matter how many times I hear that quote, it cracks me up everytime. the guy is a legend.

Track and Field on this would be a great way of keeping fit!

@JayPee

"It's based on the fact I have a masters of engineering degree really"

How can you in a single sentence decide that your masters degree makes you more informed than a professional nutritionist? Can you even name the training and resulting qualifications that exist in the physical education career path?

I've studied engineering as it happens. Not right through degree level (I started a mechanical engineering degree, but then quit to do something else) but I studied physics and maths to A level standard. I must have missed the bit where we covered biology too ;)

And writing "no offense" after being offensive (patronising in this case) is hardly some leveller. "No offense, but" are often exactly the words that preceded an offensive statement.


Anway, I thinik we are splitting hairs a bit here. I don't see that what you have written since actually disagrees with a.d.venturer. Both of you seem to have slightly difference versions of the old "calories in - minus calories out = get fat or get thin" statement (I really just thought it was that straight forward, seems not).

You just seem to dismiss him based on his tone (which I did myself initially, but he's chilled out now). You also accuse him of being high brow ("I'm sure the first thing you would say to a 50 year-old woman" etc), but you yourself dismissed him without any fact, and then responded to further prompting by telling me about your degree. Cut of the same "superior" stone you two are. Maybe thats why you aren't getting on.

A more ridiculous games forum you will struggle to find.

Context?

@kangarootoo

I think the qualification JayPee might be refering to is Sport Science.

And I've always thought it was a bit micky mouse too to be honest.

But in the same breath I would also agree that my degree in English and Masters in I.T. are a bit Micky Mouse also.

But then again I don't claim to have vastly superior knowledge to the rest of the forum as a.d.venturer did earlier.

I couldn't care less about this if i tried and believe me i've tried.
I get exercise already - I don't want or need this to be part of my hobby.
Pressing buttons and maybe moving my arm a bit is all the exercise I want out of my games.

I keep reading you calling this a "game" this is no game, it's a "made in Taiwan" kind of toy.

"One thing that's always set Nintendo apart is its ability to design hardware that's fun and rewarding to use"

/looks at virtual boy. adjusts neck brace.

I keep reading you calling this a "game" this is no game, it's a "made in
Taiwan" kind of toy.

Oh, you've played it then?

"The demo we played featured eleven minigames in five categories... These are all clever, funny, mercilessly addictive, and great showcases for the hardware."

Sounds like a game to me.

EDIT: And it always entertains me no end that gamers who do the digital equivilant of running around playing soldiers or playing with toy cars slag off games that might be, y'know, fun. GYAC - Games are childish things no matter what genre you play.

I don't really care whether it will lose me weight because I am 10 stones but this will be great fun anyway.

Think about all the possibilities.

Tiger Woods 2009 - Optional balance board option which takes into account the position of your feet in taking your shot.

Tony Hawks - Use the Wiimote to balance with your hands whilst your feet balance on the board. Move your balance to turn etc. AMAZING THIS WOULD BE!

FPSs - Use the balance board to peek round corners and to duck.

This could lead to some amazing experiences. But the hardcore 13 year old 360 gamer will dismiss it all as shit, condemn Nintendo for not being a games company, and continue shouting shit on Live. Each to their own.

I agree, it's potential in games in conjunction with the Wii remote is massive.
How about using the board to control forward, backwards, and strafing in First person games?

Oh who gives a SHIT if it is a game or not. This is about the oldest AND the most pointless argument, and it always comes up whenever someone develops something a little bit imaginative.

"Its not a game" is actually levelled as some kind of critisism! I might as well compain about a trifle because its not a cake. Its still a nice tasty trifle, wtf is your problem? If you don't like trifle because of the cherries or if you don't enjoy playing Wii Fit because its repetative, then fair enough, but don't try and dismiss it on some utterly pointless "ballet is not tennis, ergo its shit" type bullshit.

If there is one thing that will annoy me more than a pointless critisism, its an often repeated pointless critisism. Next thing you know someone will say "this is euroGAMER, and this isn't a game, so why is it on the site?" at which point I will hire killers and send them to the writers house with instructions to make it last.

humm, don't need to get mean, I just think Nintendo is delivering too many gimmicks, and no games.
I love their RPG's, where are they ?

Considering how most of the people in this thread are 360 fangirls telling us how crap this is.. There's been a hell of a lot of posts about it hasnt there?

Must be a market after all...

But, but I play computer games because I'm too fat and lazy to do any other hobby, this seems to be defeating the purpose.
I'm sure this will appeal to a big group, and once again I have to congratulate the big N on trying something original, but personally it all looks a bit shitty to me, and is something I'll never use. I mean, playing Wii fooking bowling for 10 minutes sprained my back, and had me bed ridden for weeks, this would literally kill me.

Put rumble in it. Downhill skating/snowboarding game. Winner.

Could dance games be done with this? It wouldn't quite be DDR obviously, but there must be some way.

there's a funny spoof of nintendo's promo for this device on youtube. someone simply changed the voiceover.

Flipping flip I want this! The wife'll use it once, Ill use it twice, itll never be stood on again but I blooming want it!

captainrentboy: you must be a "360 fangirl" then

Yes, that must be it.

Me too..., yet to know if that's good or bad still...

Yeah, judging from the last E3 presse conference of Nintendo, it's gonna be HUGE.

Not for me, because I'm a little fat... *hmpf*

ah a 360 fangirl is a bad thing.. the definition of one : is anyone who doesnt own a wii, and owns a 360 - but is a little insecure about their purchase after seeing how well the wii is doing. And subsequently feels the need to post in every single thread about a wii game/peripheral telling us how crap the wii is.

Thus whenever an article like this appears, hundreds of 360 fangirls come crawling out of the woodwork.

Another good sign of a fangirl is one who, upon being told he is a fangirl by someone who owns a wii suddenly gets all defensive and says that person is a "nintendo appolgist" and that person is one of the worst trolls on the board - totally oblivious to the fact the person was responding to the 360 fangirls trolling in the first place.


As for this peripheral.. cant see the point.. console add-ons rarely work well.. if it had come with the wii.. maybe.. but cant see it working myself.

what about a person that simply digs games regardless of the box and feels a bit funny when a games company that he used for 12 years turns something else, can he apply?