Wii Fit

Let's get physical.

Lock up your daughters. And your Mums, and any Dads who've been showing an uncharacteristic interest in muesli and walking since their last check-up. And your girlfriends and wives (or your beer-bellied boys), and their friends, and those other friends that scoff at your hobby and pointedly declaim their preference for a game of footy down the park and a bit of, you know, fresh air.

In fact, just lock up everyone you know, the young and the old, the fit and the fat, the gamers and the ones who won't even play Wii Sports. Lock them up and throw away they key, because Nintendo is coming for them, and once they get them you'll never get to play on your Wii again. And the fact is - not sure if it's a sad fact or a happy fact, but fact it remains - you're probably going to want to play Wii Fit just as much as the rest of them.

Wii Fit was Nintendo's big surprise at E3 this year: a software suite of fitness exercises and physical minigames that works with a new peripheral, currently called the balance board. The board looks like a set of scales: you stand on it, and it uses pressure sensors to detect your weight distribution. We gave Wii Fit a thorough workout at Nintendo's offices recently (or more accurately, it gave us a workout), and thoroughly enjoyed it. But we're none the wiser as to how useful a fitness tool it will actually be.

'Wii Fit' Screenshot 1

Wii Fit makes heavy use of Miis.

To an extent, it doesn't matter. One thing that's always set Nintendo apart is its ability to design hardware that's fun and rewarding to use in itself, and the balance board is a classic example. It's a fantastic piece of kit. It's extremely sturdy, comfortable to use, quick to calibrate, and dumb-foundingly sensitive. The accuracy and speed of its response to the slightest motion, or subtlest shift in your weight, is nothing short of astonishing. Quite frankly, it even makes the Wii remote as it's used in Wii Sports look sluggish and imprecise, and as for the EyeToy, forget it. If the race to create full-blown surfing and skateboarding games for this thing isn't already on, some people need to get fired sharpish.

The demo we played featured eleven minigames in five categories: body tests, muscle stretches, aerobic exercise, yoga poses and balance games. The body tests play elegant little games with simple readouts from the board. One asks you to shift your weight between your legs with ever-increasing accuracy. In another, you have to move your centre of gravity around a square fast, to hit targets. A third tests your balance on one leg - you have to keep a graph tracking your wobbling stature within a range that narrows over time. These are all clever, funny, mercilessly addictive, and great showcases for the hardware.

The balance games are the most videogamey part of the package. Soccer heading was a reaction-test involving frantic lunges to left and right in order to head an accelerating barrage of balls (and dodge flying boots). It was humiliating and impossible, but we played it twice in fits of giggles anyway. The bizarre ski-jump game actually seemed to be a test of our ability to stand up: strangely compelling. In the amazing ball-rolling game, you tilt trays with gentle swaying motions, aiming to drop balls through holes. It's like some perversely brilliant cross between Super Monkey Ball and a roadside drunk-driving test, and we couldn't get enough of it.

'Wii Fit' Screenshot 2

The only games we played were feet-on, but this shot implies the board can be used in more flexible ways.

But this is all the fun stuff. The hard work starts with aerobics - represented in this demo by a rather pointless and embarrassing minute of hula-ing - and gets serious with muscle stretches and yoga poses. These test your poise and endurance in sequences of stretches and contortions (the balance board's bead on your centre of gravity is so precise that it can tell, to an extent, what your upper body is doing). Afterwards, they offer Big Brain Academy-style statistics and advice on where you are strongest, and where you need work.

Perhaps keeping Nintendo's new senior fanbase in mind, Wii Fit definitely seems to favour of a more sedate style of exercise: think yoga, pilates and tai chi. That's not to say it's easy, and you'll really feel the yoga poses in particular. But based on this demo you shouldn't be expecting it to help you shed pounds or gain muscles. It's all about improving your flexibility, muscle control, reactions and strength.

Whether it can do any more than that for you depends on how the game is structured for long-term use, which was impossible to tell from the demo. Sixty seconds of hip-gyration might be a good ice-breaker at parties, but it's not going to do anything for anybody's waistline or cardiovascular health. If Wii Fit can suggest and monitor a well-thought-out workout regime over time - and if the very brief exercises in the demo are extended in the real thing - then it might actually do some people some good. As it stands though, it's the most fun when it's the least like exercise, and not much more than a cunningly-branded novelty, albeit a technically amazing and very entertaining one.

'Wii Fit' Screenshot 3

Nintendo sees familial harmony and good health in this screen. We see wrecked homes and mental scarring.

What Wii Fit will definitely be is huge, with a capital HUGE. Brain Training on the DS cleverly exploited people's insecurities, and sold the idea that games could be improving as well as fun. Wii Sports revolutionised the control interface, and put gaming in a more social and energetic context. Wii Fit takes these two mega-hits, rolls them into one, and throws in a very cool new toy for good measure. Even if it were rubbish it would be a work of uncommon genius, and it's clearly not rubbish.

Pricing has yet to be decided, although we've heard that GBP 50 for a bundle of board and game isn't out of the question, which would be great news. We predict it will fly off the shelves so fast that you'll be lucky to get your hands on one before Christmas. Who knows whether it will make us all fitter in the long run. but one thing's for sure: it will make Nintendo a lot richer.

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  • AlcohollicA #1 5 years ago

    Ooh, first!

    .....meh.
  • NewYork #2 5 years ago

    I'm interested more in the fun aspect than the fitness aspect (a bit like brain training being more about the games than what it can do for your intelligence).

    Sounds like a good laugh.

    And hopefully this will do well enough to warrant further support from other games.
  • CallousB #3 5 years ago

    "We predict it will fly off the shelves so fast that you'll be lucky to get your hands on one before Christmas"

    Isn't it 2008 in Europe?..or do you know something we don't?
  • BM #4 5 years ago

    I'm liking the sounds of this. Not as much as my missus though, she can't wait to get it
  • AcidSnake #5 5 years ago

    Getting one before christmas?
    Wasn't this scheduled for a 2008 release?

    Or did you mean christmas 2008?

    They could have downloadable excercises over wiiconnect...

    Indeed this will be absolutely massive, regardless of quality...

    ...Money fight!
  • woodnotes #6 5 years ago

    It's 2008.

    And as it quite clearly states, this is a very sedate form of excercise, so you aren't going to be losing any pounds with this. So I don't think it'll be the 2008's Atkins diet. Then again, you don't get any cleverer by playing Brain Training but people still fall for that.
  • afghan_jones #7 5 years ago

    If I have to see another fucking Ninty promo shot of some overly-hip, attractive group of yuppies all laughing their way through a Wii game with their designer furniture, bare feet and primary colour clothes Im going to fucking lamp someone.

  • Dizzy #8 5 years ago

    Indeed.. this will be HUGE and sell like crazy.
  • Genji #9 5 years ago

    "If I have to see another fucking Ninty promo shot of some overly-hip, attractive group of yuppies all laughing their way through a Wii game with their designer furniture, bare feet and primary colour clothes Im going to fucking lamp someone."

    Yeah! Nintendo should show us some pictures of REAL gamers!

    ...maybe not.

    ;-D
  • NewYork #10 5 years ago

    "Wii fit, providing gamers with foot fetish pornography since June :)"

    Yes, Nintendo, less of this foot business.

    /hates sofa ads, too
  • robg #11 5 years ago

    "Yeah! Nintendo should show us some pictures of REAL gamers!

    ...maybe not.

    ;-D"

    Indeed, advertising is usually aspirational, not averse.
  • afghan_jones #12 5 years ago

    "Yeah! Nintendo should show us some pictures of REAL gamers!

    ...maybe not. "


    Oh no, didnt want that, I just meant pics of actual games rather than another bunch of shoeless yuppies.
  • Carrybagma #13 5 years ago

    What a stupid idea.
    It's a gimmick.
    It'll never work.
    It's ruining games.
    Nintendo will be out of business within a year!
  • Masakados #14 5 years ago


    Scary.

    Give me a controller, please.
  • RickHard #15 5 years ago

    Mmm... so it's more casual mini-games for the casualy fat/senior/decerebrated gamer... sure, that is gonna sell.
  • Pac #16 5 years ago

    I have often thought it would be great idea to have some interactive fitness machines down the gym to make it a bit more interesting but I don't think this is the answer.
  • AcidSnake #17 5 years ago

    How long before some american slips off the thing and plants his/her head through the TV?

    Headlines:
    "Jenny, 15 years old, 120 KG tries to lose weight, murdered by Nintendo!"

    Also I'd thoroughly wash the board before switching to "hands-on" mode...
  • Tiel #18 5 years ago

  • huxathon #19 5 years ago

    you should have seen the look of delight on my girlfriends face when she saw this.
    nintendo are going to be so rich.
  • afghan_jones #20 5 years ago

    They should use the tech to make actual games.

  • Ranger101 #21 5 years ago

    Whoever it is that has come into Nintendo as it taking them into the peripheral marketing business should get a well deserved raise and a feature in Time Magazine. Genius from a marketing perspective. Fantastic stuff..... shame about it being a bit misleading in the 'fitness' stakes though. But The surfing and boarding applications might prove interesting.
  • Genji #22 5 years ago

    I foresee a Donkey Kong platforming game... controlled by PUSH-UPS.
    Edited by 2 at 22/08/07 @ 11:34
  • Cannibal #23 5 years ago

    I really like the potential in that board thing, could be the next big gimmick.
  • Sebo #24 5 years ago

    @afghan

    Sounds like they actually might use it for games. Wii Fit is just the vehicle for getting the board out there, and a better demographed choice of game to go with this I can not imagine.

    Pity they won't have this out for mario galaxy. Would be great jumping on the board to jump on a koopa troopa.
  • lambtron #25 5 years ago

    "And as it quite clearly states, this is a very sedate form of excercise, so you aren't going to be losing any pounds with this. So I don't think it'll be the 2008's Atkins diet. Then again, you don't get any cleverer by playing Brain Training but people still fall for that."

    That's a flawed interpretation of what kind of exercise promotes weight loss IMHO. Gentle exercise for a long duration is always > short burts of intense activity. Brisk walking for example is much, much more effective than jogging like a lunatic in that regard.

    Full-on cardio vascular exercise is actually rubbish at making you lose weight. It is however (if you're not fit in the first place) a quite amazing way to bring about premature death ;).
  • secombe #26 5 years ago

    Back to the Future Hoverboard game...do it! In all seriousness though, a Tony Hawk game has got to be a potential candidate for this board.
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/07 @ 11:44
  • Cannibal #27 5 years ago

    I wonder if you will see games where the balance board is used simultaneously with the wiimote?

    Imagine a down hill skate boarding version of Road Rash where you have to slug it out while you skate.
  • rashes #28 5 years ago

    @Cannibal

    That sounds like an awful lot of work!
  • NewYork #29 5 years ago

    Could be used for something as simple as crouching in a lightgun game.
  • nickthegun #30 5 years ago

    Thanks christ for that.

    I was getting tired of doing press-ups on my carpet, like some kind of animal.
  • Cannibal #31 5 years ago

    Can't wait to see if the next Warioware game implements this.
  • Sebo #32 5 years ago

    @New York

    Great idea.

    I'm also hoping this board is the answer to the wii's problem of how to get its controls into a football game.

    If it sense your weight then I guess it could sense how fast and hard you are kicking, and you could simply use the wiimote to point which way you want to run.

    Pro Evo Wii!!!
  • gamingdave #33 5 years ago

    How strong is it? Could you actually jump on it?
  • NewYork #34 5 years ago

    Depends if you weigh like a regular person or like a gaming enthusiast.
  • Load_2.0 #35 5 years ago

    nickthegun
    22-Aug-07 11:45:32 Thanks christ for that.

    I was getting tired of doing press-ups on my carpet, like some kind of animal.


    You disgust me. I am all for hover board, light saber, duelling games.


  • Daikon #36 5 years ago

    Some of you commentors don't seem to realize that Japanese people don't wear shoes inside their houses...

    Let's become more culturally aware!
  • woodnotes #37 5 years ago

    I don't wear shoes in my house, but I often wear socks.
  • NewYork #38 5 years ago

    Who the heck does wear shoes indoors, you shoe wearing freak.
  • Hog-lumps #39 5 years ago

    There's a video here showing how it works;

    [link url=http://e3nin.n intendo.com/wii_fit.html
    ]http://e3nin.n intendo.com/wii_fit.html
    [/link]

    Looks okay I suppose!
  • Pac #40 5 years ago

    @lambtron

    Not sure about that. I think the only way to loose weight effectively is a good diet and regular cardiovascular exercise.

    As you mentioned in your post, premature death from Jogging etc. usually only happens to people overdoing it, when they are not fit.

    I don't think Wii Fit is realy gonna make people fit, so the name is a bit misleading IMHO.

  • Aurifex. #41 5 years ago

    Will be a Wii blow up doll next.
  • peterfll #42 5 years ago

    Even at £50 I bet Nintendo will still make a profit from each unit. They are very clever indeed. Curses for not buying some Nintendo shares 24 months ago.
  • Pike #43 5 years ago

    Wii fit - for those too fat and ugly to show themselves at a real gym.
  • miiiguel #44 5 years ago

    These guys are weirdos.
  • NewYork #45 5 years ago

    "Wii fit - for those too fat and ugly to show themselves at a real gym"

    Nintendo know their userbase!
  • SBfistfun #46 5 years ago

  • T.G. #47 5 years ago

    I think that Wii Fit will be a success. I also think it'll be fun. That is all.
  • Goffee #48 5 years ago

    A song in the vein of Everybody's gone surfing - surfin nin-ten-do is required!
  • a.d.venturer #49 5 years ago

    @pac, lambtron, other people who don't know how exercise and weight lose work

    "Gentle exercise for a long duration is always > short burts of intense activity."

    "Not sure about that. I think the only way to loose weight effectively is a good diet and regular cardiovascular exercise."

    Actually, you're both wrong. The amount of calories burnt during exercise is dwarfed by your body's post exercise consumption of calories (EPOC). This is elevated more by intense exercise, and even more by modifying your body's metabolic rate by increasing your lean muscle mass. Increasing your lean muscule mass by 1 kg is approximately equal to doing an additional 30 minutes cardiovascular exercise every day for free. So body building ~= sprinting > jogging > gentle walking for weight loss. Of course, jogging is still good for cardio vascular (aerobic) fitness. There's also the additional benefits of skeletal insulin uptake that occurs with intense exercise.

    Can't wait for more uninformed people to speak up on this subject.

    [Edit to fix grammar that made me seem less smart...]
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/07 @ 12:31
  • Pike #50 5 years ago

    There are plenty of fat and ugly people about, so sure, the Wii Fit has a good chance to sell just fine.
  • Sebo #51 5 years ago

  • afghan_jones #52 5 years ago

    @a.d.venturer


    exactly right.
  • Daymare #53 5 years ago

    Here's another idea: for those of us lazy ones they could make a sledding game! You just sit and lean:) They could also incorporate wii-motes for, I dunno what, smacking stuff while sledding down! Oh, the possibilities..
  • Sebo #54 5 years ago

    @a.d.venturer

    Man you are clever
  • BadBoyBonner #55 5 years ago

    How do you sell an add-on at a hugely inflated price?

    Simple, change it to a bit of fitness equipment, that isn't really fitness equipment.

    Genius move (again) by Nintendo.

    Almost nobody would have bought it for the hover/skate/snow/surf board game.
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/07 @ 12:28
  • mingster #56 5 years ago

    I actually would have bought it for a snow/surf game if its acurate enough
  • Santino #57 5 years ago

    Pike you keep insisting on saying that people who buy this must be ugly and fat...what the hell is wrong with you? makes you sound like an egotistical pretty boy who spends too much time looking in the mirror. Get a grip man.
  • SniperWolf #58 5 years ago

  • Hog-lumps #59 5 years ago

    To the people saying this isn't excercise;

    Surely it's better for you to jump up an down on a scale for 30mins than to sit there motionless in your underpants, eating pork-scratchings whilst playing pro evo? Or am I missing the point?
  • Pac #60 5 years ago

    @a.d.venturer

    Thanks for the biology lesson. I will adapt my fitness regime accordingly.

    Only next time try not to be so smug about it.

    My point was that Wii fit will not make you fit, or loose weight.
  • SniperWolf #61 5 years ago

    People who call other people ugly are insecure about their own looks, same as people who keep calling everything gay, they are just battling with their own homosexuality.

    Most people who join the army are actually homosexual, but they can't accept it so need to vent there anger by killing other people. That's a well known fact that has been documented.

    Oh yeah Wiifit, sorry went off topic there.
  • mingster #62 5 years ago

    As much as i thought this was such a lame concept to begin with..

    I now believe this will propel Nintendo to absolute ludicrous profitabilty.

    Buy your shares now.
  • Sebo #63 5 years ago

    @Pac

    It will. But perhaps not to any great extent
  • afghan_jones #64 5 years ago

    @sniperwolf

    "Most people who join the army are actually homosexual, but they can't accept it so need to vent there anger by killing other people. That's a well known fact that has been documented."


    Brilliant. I can only marvel at the fantasy world which yu inhabit.

  • Daymare #65 5 years ago

    "My point was that Wii fit will not make you fit, or loose weight."

    If, of course, you wouldn't be on it "whole day" and not eat much;)
  • Pac #66 5 years ago

    @Sebo

    Yes but almost every activity probably consumes some calories. Even typing on a keyboard.

    But I don't call it keyboard fitness 2000

    ...although perhaps if I typed with my toes.
  • SBfistfun #67 5 years ago

    @Sebo

    ahhh sorry misunderstood.

    /pulls up trousers, puts paper under arm
  • a.d.venturer #68 5 years ago

    @pac

    "My point was that Wii fit will not make you fit, or loose weight."

    Actually there's a good chance that it will. The first 3 months of body building don't actually result in any muscle mass gains, simply because you are incapable of coordinating your body well enough to work the muscles hard enough.

    Instead, the rapid strength gains you experience at the start of adopting a weight training program are the result of increased neuro-muscular coordination. The same kinds of neuro-muscular coordination that the Wii Fitness uses.

    The initial weight loss you experience as a part of training is partly the result of 're-activating' under-used muscle groups, and using them more, which results in a higher metabolic rate. For instance, many people find it really hard to activate their rhomboids (muscle group in the middle of the back) without being conscious of them. Once they've done a few weeks worth of back training, these muscles can be activated more easily and correctly used.

    I think you'll find that these initial gains will also be present for people who use the Wii Fitness.
  • lambtron #69 5 years ago

    @ a.d.venturer

    While you might be right, what you're suggesting is somewhat extreme and not viable for the vast majority of people.

    Most men put weight on their gut first. Hence people who are otherwise thin who have a beergut. For losing weight from this particular area with minimum impact gentle sustained exercise is absolutely the best option.
  • SniperWolf #70 5 years ago

    And about this Wiifit stuff, I lift weights five times a week, not to get big, just to keep the weight off and look super sexy, if you want to keep fit, exercise and don't eat a load of crap, it's not rocket science.

    Wiifit is just playing on people's fears, that's why it will sell. As a exercise product it's a load of bollocks probably. I expect Nintendo's next game to be some sort of pregnancy test that involves placing the Wiimote in your beaver. Nintendo are just exploiting people with all this brain and fitness stuff.
  • NewYork #71 5 years ago

    "Pike you keep insisting on saying that people who buy this must be ugly and fat...what the hell is wrong with you? makes you sound like an egotistical pretty boy who spends too much time looking in the mirror. Get a grip man."

    Who ate all the pies.
  • Daymare #72 5 years ago

    I can already see the headlines: "LOCAL FITNESS CENTERS/RETIREMENT HOMES OFFER WII FIT EXERCISE!"
  • Santino #73 5 years ago

    "Who ate all the pies."

    Most definitely not me thank you very much, i just don't like the sound of people with big egos talking bollox.
  • Hog-lumps #74 5 years ago

    Nintendo are just exploiting people with all this brain and fitness stuff.

    Although it might inspire people to take a healthier attitude in other aspects of their life (i.e not just in front of the telly) - Especially if the board (as it appears in one screenshot) plots your body-mass index with time.......?
  • Waldo #75 5 years ago

  • a.d.venturer #76 5 years ago

    @lambtron

    "While you might be right, what you're suggesting is somewhat extreme and not viable for the vast majority of people.

    Most men put weight on their gut first. Hence people who are otherwise thin who have a beergut. For losing weight from this particular area with minimum impact gentle sustained exercise is absolutely the best option."

    Come back to me when you've got a physical education related qualification and actually have some ability to speak in an area you appear to currently know nothing about.
  • woodnotes #77 5 years ago

    Thing is, I got to the gym most nights now, when I get home I generally have dinner and then get stuck in to some decent games.

    I'm not going to want to go to the gym, have dinner, and then play THIS. And it's not a suitable alternative to the gym either. So for gym-goers I don't see the point, and for people who don't go to the gym and want to lose weight, this is going to be pretty useless for them anyway.

    It'll still sell millions, like that other pointless game, Nintendogs.
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/07 @ 12:54
  • Arnold__ #78 5 years ago

    And the dumbing down and lowering of gaming standards continue.

    No doubt the sheeple will buy this in their millions. Alhtough the sales figures should be compared to all those other cheap, useless ab rollers and thigh trimmers and bun toners which are sold on dodgy tv shopping channels.

    Proper nutrition, regular excercise and supplementation is the only way to lose weight.
  • woodnotes #79 5 years ago

    The funniest thing is on the Wii Fit video, that older guy does a few sit-ups, then gets up and has to wipe a load of sweat off his face. I mean, come on. He needs to turn the heating off.
  • NewYork #80 5 years ago

    Wii Fit: Not for gym goers.

    OMG.
  • lambtron #81 5 years ago

    "Come back to me when you've got a physical education related qualification and actually have some ability to speak in an area you appear to currently know nothing about."

    Well excuse me!

    /prostrates self before greater being.

    I just don't think increasing your lean muscle mass by multiple kgs is a realistic target for most people.
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/07 @ 13:03
  • NewYork #82 5 years ago

  • Arnold__ #83 5 years ago

    @ a.d.venturer

    "For losing weight from this particular area with minimum impact gentle sustained exercise is absolutely the best option."

    Pal, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. There is no such thing as spot reduction. Hence the popularity of lipo suction, the only way to spot reduce. A calorie controlled diet and strict cardio and resistance training regimen will remove fat gradually from all over your body.
  • Geowolf #84 5 years ago

    @Cannibal "I wonder if you will see games where the balance board is used simultaneously with the wiimote?

    Imagine a down hill skate boarding version of Road Rash where you have to slug it out while you skate. "


    You mean like a waterskiing game with the board as your skies and the wiimote acting as your rope handle to the boat (Don't know what you call it).

  • miiiguel #85 5 years ago

    Nintendo you're a video-games company!

    Gamers of the world unite.
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/07 @ 13:14
  • Load_2.0 #86 5 years ago

    I would like to remove massive fat deposits from my enormous wang.
  • miiiguel #87 5 years ago

    completely out-of-the-blue:
    We could use a Blue Dragon review.
  • a.d.venturer #88 5 years ago

    @ Arnold__

    "@ a.d.venturer

    "For losing weight from this particular area with minimum impact gentle sustained exercise is absolutely the best option."

    Pal, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about."

    I think you'll find I was quoting someone else there... agreed that spot reduction doesn't exist.
  • Arnold__ #89 5 years ago

    Ah I see. My apologies then a.d.venturer!
  • afghan_jones #90 5 years ago

    @Load "$"

    Stop rubbing butter all over it then.
  • Twincoil #91 5 years ago

    "I'm liking the sounds of this. Not as much as my missus though, she can't wait to get it"

    THIS is what's wrong with gaming today.



    And that's MR. Asshole to you.
  • Devious_Droid #92 5 years ago

    Soooo..... I'm guessing the supporters of fun fitness videogames all went out and bought Eye Toy Kenetic then? No? Anyone? Oh, right, it wasn't a Wii add-on....
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/07 @ 13:20
  • a.d.venturer #93 5 years ago

    And if we're going to have a wildly off-topic discussion about diet and exercise, I'd usually recommend that someone starting a resistance based program actually increase the number of meals they eat...

    But that's neither here nor there...

    @lambtron: You can usually increase your lean muscle mass about 1 kg per year, so agreed that it requires a lot of dedication. I disagree with you that it shouldn't be a realistic target. I think a year of regular of regular resistance training (3 times per week) is a realistic target for most people to be able to achieve. Of course, once they get on 'the path', they're unlikely to want to stop after a year. If the Wii Fitness gets them 3 months into it, then more power to Nintendo.

    Btw: While I'm all for weight training, if you think us as a games community is a sad and pathetic community, try meeting some of the hard core gym junkies out there. High prevalence of depression, teenage acne, social misadjustment, anger issues, short-man syndrome etc that makes gamers look like paragons of the community.
  • Razz #94 5 years ago

    Another win for Nintendo! :))

    YATTA!!!!
  • afghan_jones #95 5 years ago

    "Soooo..... I'm guessing the supporters of fun fitness videogames all went out and bought Eye Toy Kenetic then? No? Anyone? Oh, right, it wasn't a Wii add-on.... "

    Good point.

    although, eye toy kinetic wasnt actually fun.
  • aabyssx #96 5 years ago

    Does EG have a fitness & healthcare division, too?
    What the next article? Stomach muscle trainer review from tvshop? o_O
  • gamingdave #97 5 years ago

    Did any of the people complaining that it isnt a game, that its pointless blah blah blah actually read the article, where they exclaimed how much FUN it was?
  • kangarootoo #98 5 years ago

    @a.d.venturer

    "Can't wait for more uninformed people to speak up on this subject. "

    So that you will presented with another fantastic opportunity to be superior? Grow up.

    "[Edit to fix grammar that made me seem less smart...]"

    Lol. Irony.


    "Actually there's a good chance that it will. The first 3 months of body building don't actually result in any muscle mass gains, simply because you are incapable of coordinating your body well enough to work the muscles hard enough."

    Really? My personal experience suggests otherwise, but I'm always open to learning. When I started training again my body weight increased by about 8 pounds within three months. Now I assumed that was muscle mass, because if anything my body fat reduced (actually, it probably didn't change much, but rather became less apparent). The weight that I could lift certainly increased over a three month period, and I assume that increased circulation or whatever isn't responsible for a significant increase such as that. Is the fact that I was returning to training rather than starting from nothing perhaps a factor here?

    This is actually a proper question, as you seem to know a fair amount about the subject (still no excuse for being childishly big headed about it mind).


    Edit: Ah, read on in your post regards muscle strength increases. Fair enough. I'm still not clear on where the weight gain came from though. Did I simply imagine that it occurred over a shorter period of time than was the case perhaps?
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/07 @ 13:34
  • afghan_jones #99 5 years ago

    @gamingdave

    the first go on a totally new piece of hardware is always going to be, with people laughing and messing about, but pulling this out every morning to try and actually get fit is going to be as much fun as 'Jade Goody's Salsacise'
  • mcmothercruncher #100 5 years ago

    "...you'll be lucky to get your hands on one before Christmas"

    For the love of God Nintendo- NOT A-FUCKING-GAIN!!



    And, truest thing ever- Six-packs are made in the kitchen, not in the gym.
    You can all have that little pearl, no charge ;)
  • a.d.venturer #101 5 years ago

    @kangarootoo

    I think I half answered your question later. As I mentioned, you can usually increase your lean muscle mass about 1 kg per year, so the weight gained you experienced is unlikely to be solely muscle gain. All of the stuff I've said is pretty much rule of thumb though, and there are always exceptions. However, I suspect you'll find you were eating more calories, which usually converts to fat if you're not using them, plus you'll probably have increased the amount of glycogen (carbohydrate) and water your body was storing in order to help it with the additional exercise you were doing.

    Its quite a common training strategy to mass up and then go lean, then mass up again then go lean etc.
  • Pac-man-ate-my-wife #102 5 years ago

    Great, another thread full of cunts who don't give a fuck about the game, just want to slag of the Wii.

    /gives up on Eurogamer
  • AcidSnake #103 5 years ago

    @kanga:
    Were you by any chance playing big brain academy in that period?
    Maybe your brain just got 8 pounds heavier?...
  • JayPee #104 5 years ago

    Ahh bodybuilder types and professional sports/nutritionalists.

    Somewhere between learning a bit of science for some mickeymouse course and being in the gym a lot themselves they completely lose track of reality.

    Diet, fitness, training and so on are all very individual things. Generally the best advise you can ever give out (over the internet at least) is "Eat right, work out". Other than that, the answer is to stick with whatever works for you.

    People who come on internet forums and spout science to try and tell people what will work for them to lose/gain weight or get fitter don't really cut much ice with me I'm afraid.

    No offence though.

    For some, this game will make them fitter, for others not so much, for others, not at all (as it's left gathering dust in a draw with the rest of their Wii kit).
  • Pac #105 5 years ago

  • miiiguel #106 5 years ago

    "Great, another thread full of cunts who don't give a fuck about the game, just want to slag of the Wii."

    What game ?
  • kangarootoo #107 5 years ago

    @a.d.venturer

    "However, I suspect you'll find you were eating more calories, which usually converts to fat if you're not using them, plus you'll probably have increased the amount of glycogen (carbohydrate) and water your body was storing in order to help it with the additional exercise you were doing."

    So in essence you are saying my arse got bigger, but the baggier tracksuit bottoms hid the difference. Nuts.


    @JayPee

    "Somewhere between learning a bit of science for some mickeymouse course and being in the gym a lot themselves they completely lose track of reality."

    Hmmm, I get the feeling that you yourself haven't studied physical development in any way at all. The way you describe "some mickey mouse course" suggests your standpoint is based more on tabloid style bias than actual knowledge. Fortunately the clear absence of actual knowledge means it is unlikely anyone will actually be offended by your post.
  • evilboo #108 5 years ago

    The crouch option in most FPSs can at last result in the same pain as in real life.
  • milhous #109 5 years ago

    You can actually get a qualification in PE??
    Can you walk? YES
    Can you run? YES
    Can you differentiate between the two? NO...I mean yes...shit..

    Sorry! Failed!

  • andromeda #110 5 years ago

    twincoil is right

    this IS whats wrong with gaming

    But of course it'll sell well, GIMMICKS always do

  • Razz #111 5 years ago

    Nintendo is so amazing!
  • Sid-Nice #112 5 years ago

    The Wii has gathered a new breed of casual gamer; the old, women gamers and the mentally ill. I can't see these people doing push-ups on a Wii-Fit-Board.
  • Jac #113 5 years ago

    I wasn't very excited by this until someone pointed out to me the possibilities of this in conjunction with the wiimote and nunchuk. Imagine road rash steering with your weight whilst beating people sensless using the wiimote or a proper boxing sim, this will be huge.
  • JayPee #114 5 years ago

    @ kanga

    It's based on the fact I have a masters of engineering degree really.

    And you may note the way I said "no offence".

    The basic arc of my point is that anyone telling people how it is best to lose weight over the internet and then feeling smug about it is absolutely nuts. Everyone has different goals, body types, metabolisms etc. that there is no hard and fast rules except the ones I previoulsy stated.

    Feel free to disregard my post (as you say you should), but the fact that you not only replied to it, but quoted its contents implies that the opposite was in fact the case.

    "Wanna lose weight? - Do body building or sprinting!" - yeah, sure.
  • JayPee #115 5 years ago

    BTW kanga, my post wasn't really referring to you anyway. Your reply to another poster actuall reinforces my point rather than weakens it.
  • orakio #116 5 years ago

  • andromeda #117 5 years ago

    @jac

    yeah a roadrash type game could be fun i agree

    but they'll never make it

    instead we'll get weight training or some shit
  • Xerx3s #118 5 years ago

    Interesting how ninty keeps on focussing on 'perfect people' in their pr shots and reduces the actual game exposure to an absolute minimum.
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/07 @ 14:44
  • a.d.venturer #119 5 years ago

    @jaypee

    Shit, you're right. I'll stick to uninformed speculation from now on...
  • Sebo #120 5 years ago

    @xerx3s

    It's quite amazing how Nintendo's marketing department has gone from utter sh''t to pure brilliance in the space of two years.
  • JayPee #121 5 years ago

    Practical advise rather than sanctimonious, smug "I have done a course" knowledge would have done, but whatever floats your boat. I'm sure the first thing you would say to a 50 year-old woman, who is 60lb overweight and has bad hips would be:

    "The amount of calories burnt during exercise is dwarfed by your body's post exercise consumption of calories (EPOC). This is elevated more by intense exercise, and even more by modifying your body's metabolic rate by increasing your lean muscle mass. Increasing your lean muscule mass by 1 kg is approximately equal to doing an additional 30 minutes cardiovascular exercise every day for free. So body building ~= sprinting > jogging > gentle walking for weight loss. Of course, jogging is still good for cardio vascular (aerobic) fitness. There's also the additional benefits of skeletal insulin uptake that occurs with intense exercise.
    ...
    [Edit to fix grammar that made me seem less smart...]
  • mcmothercruncher #122 5 years ago

    Christ, eat better than you currently do, get some cardio and if possible some resistance done each week. End of story, no qualifications are needed for those of us not considering the 2012 Olympics. Most people know to take it easy and see how their body reacts, those that don't, well, that just improves the gene pool!
  • Arnold__ #123 5 years ago

    JayPee, ok lets hear it, how much do you bench?
  • Arnold__ #124 5 years ago

    By the way, this is what Arnie would tell the 50 year old woman - in his own words

    "The greatest feeling you can get in a gym or the most satisfying feeling you can get in the gym is the pump. Let's say you train your biceps, blood is rushing in to your muscles and that's what we call the pump. Your muscles get a really tight feeling like your skin is going to explode any minute and its really tight and its like someone is blowing air into your muscle and it just blows up and it feels different, it feels fantastic. It's as satifying to me as cumming is, you know, as in having sex with a woman and cumming. So can you believe how much I am in heaven? I am like getting the feeling of cumming in the gym, I'm getting the feeling of cumming at home, I'm getting the feeling of cumming backstage, when I pump up, when I pose out in front of 5000 people I get the same feeling, so I am cumming day and night. Its terrific, right? So I am in heaven."
  • afghan_jones #125 5 years ago

    @Arnold_


    Yeah, no matter how many times I hear that quote, it cracks me up everytime. the guy is a legend.
  • Spydez #126 5 years ago

    Track and Field on this would be a great way of keeping fit!
  • kangarootoo #127 5 years ago

    @JayPee

    "It's based on the fact I have a masters of engineering degree really"

    How can you in a single sentence decide that your masters degree makes you more informed than a professional nutritionist? Can you even name the training and resulting qualifications that exist in the physical education career path?

    I've studied engineering as it happens. Not right through degree level (I started a mechanical engineering degree, but then quit to do something else) but I studied physics and maths to A level standard. I must have missed the bit where we covered biology too ;)

    And writing "no offense" after being offensive (patronising in this case) is hardly some leveller. "No offense, but" are often exactly the words that preceded an offensive statement.


    Anway, I thinik we are splitting hairs a bit here. I don't see that what you have written since actually disagrees with a.d.venturer. Both of you seem to have slightly difference versions of the old "calories in - minus calories out = get fat or get thin" statement (I really just thought it was that straight forward, seems not).

    You just seem to dismiss him based on his tone (which I did myself initially, but he's chilled out now). You also accuse him of being high brow ("I'm sure the first thing you would say to a 50 year-old woman" etc), but you yourself dismissed him without any fact, and then responded to further prompting by telling me about your degree. Cut of the same "superior" stone you two are. Maybe thats why you aren't getting on.
  • Sebo #128 5 years ago

    A more ridiculous games forum you will struggle to find.
  • kangarootoo #129 5 years ago

  • Pac #130 5 years ago

    @kangarootoo

    I think the qualification JayPee might be refering to is Sport Science.

    And I've always thought it was a bit micky mouse too to be honest.

    But in the same breath I would also agree that my degree in English and Masters in I.T. are a bit Micky Mouse also.

    But then again I don't claim to have vastly superior knowledge to the rest of the forum as a.d.venturer did earlier.
  • Chim_chimma_nee! #131 5 years ago

    I couldn't care less about this if i tried and believe me i've tried.
    I get exercise already - I don't want or need this to be part of my hobby.
    Pressing buttons and maybe moving my arm a bit is all the exercise I want out of my games.
  • miiiguel #132 5 years ago

    I keep reading you calling this a "game" this is no game, it's a "made in Taiwan" kind of toy.
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/07 @ 16:40
  • RazorObsession #133 5 years ago

    "One thing that's always set Nintendo apart is its ability to design hardware that's fun and rewarding to use"

    /looks at virtual boy. adjusts neck brace.
  • Hog-lumps #134 5 years ago

    I keep reading you calling this a "game" this is no game, it's a "made in
    Taiwan" kind of toy.


    Oh, you've played it then?
  • Pac-man-ate-my-wife #135 5 years ago

    "The demo we played featured eleven minigames in five categories... These are all clever, funny, mercilessly addictive, and great showcases for the hardware."

    Sounds like a game to me.

    EDIT: And it always entertains me no end that gamers who do the digital equivilant of running around playing soldiers or playing with toy cars slag off games that might be, y'know, fun. GYAC - Games are childish things no matter what genre you play.
    Edited by 3 at 22/08/07 @ 16:55
  • declaration #136 5 years ago

    I don't really care whether it will lose me weight because I am 10 stones but this will be great fun anyway.

    Think about all the possibilities.

    Tiger Woods 2009 - Optional balance board option which takes into account the position of your feet in taking your shot.

    Tony Hawks - Use the Wiimote to balance with your hands whilst your feet balance on the board. Move your balance to turn etc. AMAZING THIS WOULD BE!

    FPSs - Use the balance board to peek round corners and to duck.

    This could lead to some amazing experiences. But the hardcore 13 year old 360 gamer will dismiss it all as shit, condemn Nintendo for not being a games company, and continue shouting shit on Live. Each to their own.
  • GingerNathan #137 5 years ago

    I agree, it's potential in games in conjunction with the Wii remote is massive.
    How about using the board to control forward, backwards, and strafing in First person games?
  • kangarootoo #138 5 years ago

    Oh who gives a SHIT if it is a game or not. This is about the oldest AND the most pointless argument, and it always comes up whenever someone develops something a little bit imaginative.

    "Its not a game" is actually levelled as some kind of critisism! I might as well compain about a trifle because its not a cake. Its still a nice tasty trifle, wtf is your problem? If you don't like trifle because of the cherries or if you don't enjoy playing Wii Fit because its repetative, then fair enough, but don't try and dismiss it on some utterly pointless "ballet is not tennis, ergo its shit" type bullshit.

    If there is one thing that will annoy me more than a pointless critisism, its an often repeated pointless critisism. Next thing you know someone will say "this is euroGAMER, and this isn't a game, so why is it on the site?" at which point I will hire killers and send them to the writers house with instructions to make it last.
  • miiiguel #139 5 years ago

    humm, don't need to get mean, I just think Nintendo is delivering too many gimmicks, and no games.
    I love their RPG's, where are they ?
  • smelly #140 5 years ago

    Considering how most of the people in this thread are 360 fangirls telling us how crap this is.. There's been a hell of a lot of posts about it hasnt there?

    Must be a market after all...
  • captainrentboy #141 5 years ago

    But, but I play computer games because I'm too fat and lazy to do any other hobby, this seems to be defeating the purpose.
    I'm sure this will appeal to a big group, and once again I have to congratulate the big N on trying something original, but personally it all looks a bit shitty to me, and is something I'll never use. I mean, playing Wii fooking bowling for 10 minutes sprained my back, and had me bed ridden for weeks, this would literally kill me.
  • LazyDan #142 5 years ago

    Put rumble in it. Downhill skating/snowboarding game. Winner.

    Could dance games be done with this? It wouldn't quite be DDR obviously, but there must be some way.
  • dryden555 #143 5 years ago

    there's a funny spoof of nintendo's promo for this device on youtube. someone simply changed the voiceover.
  • miiiguel #144 5 years ago

    captainrentboy: you must be a "360 fangirl" then
  • captainrentboy #145 5 years ago

    Yes, that must be it.
  • miiiguel #146 5 years ago

    Me too..., yet to know if that's good or bad still...
  • captain-future #147 5 years ago

    Yeah, judging from the last E3 presse conference of Nintendo, it's gonna be HUGE.

    Not for me, because I'm a little fat... *hmpf*
  • smelly #148 5 years ago

    ah a 360 fangirl is a bad thing.. the definition of one : is anyone who doesnt own a wii, and owns a 360 - but is a little insecure about their purchase after seeing how well the wii is doing. And subsequently feels the need to post in every single thread about a wii game/peripheral telling us how crap the wii is.

    Thus whenever an article like this appears, hundreds of 360 fangirls come crawling out of the woodwork.

    Another good sign of a fangirl is one who, upon being told he is a fangirl by someone who owns a wii suddenly gets all defensive and says that person is a "nintendo appolgist" and that person is one of the worst trolls on the board - totally oblivious to the fact the person was responding to the 360 fangirls trolling in the first place.


    As for this peripheral.. cant see the point.. console add-ons rarely work well.. if it had come with the wii.. maybe.. but cant see it working myself.
  • miiiguel #149 5 years ago

    what about a person that simply digs games regardless of the box and feels a bit funny when a games company that he used for 12 years turns something else, can he apply?
  • Khab #150 5 years ago

    Oh dear. They are going to take over the world, aren't they?
  • pantbash #151 5 years ago

    Beats mixing with those sweaty inbred's who frequent the gym...
  • Tonka #152 5 years ago

    smelly. You should try and tone down that sexist streak you have. And you constant troll baiting is turning every Wii thread into the Golden Gate.

    Just read some sales charts and cool down a little.
  • kangarootoo #153 5 years ago

    @smelly

    First off, everytime I see you level the fanboy/girl insult at someone, I just think "ironic, is what that is".

    Second, you actually seem to be using the term "girl" as a way of adding weight to an insult! Now I seem to recall from some thread ages back (where I probably accused you of being a bonkers kid) that you are about my age (I'm just into my 30s). If that is the case, you really have no excuse for that sort of attitude. Girls are better than video games, FACT (unless you are a straight girl, a gay bloke, or just love chocolate more than life, in which case make the appropriate substitution as you see fit).
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/07 @ 22:24
  • Tonka #154 5 years ago

    cue smellys "But I'm a fan of VIDEOGAMES not a MANUFACTURER" spiel
  • betahoven #155 5 years ago

    Post deleted at 09:36:16 17-12-2011
  • Santino #156 5 years ago

    "Hey guyz, Nintendo just announced a new peripheral at GDC. The Wii Ironing board. It's going to be totally awesome cos you can use your wiimote like an iron and it's just like doing the ironing, but you're not actually removing creases from clothing or anything stupid like that. It going to be HUGE!!!1 "

    u dont have a gift for comedy do you? i wouldn't go quitting the day job...
  • Xerx3s #157 5 years ago

    ah a 360 fangirl is a bad thing.. the definition of one : is anyone who doesnt own a wii, and owns a 360 - but is a little insecure about their purchase after seeing how well the wii is doing. And subsequently feels the need to post in every single thread about a wii game/peripheral telling us how crap the wii is.

    It must be easy to reason like that. Has it ever occurred to you that with the number of fantastic games on the way, they are anything but insecure about their choice? Apparently it isn't allowed any more to say something looks shit when it's on the wii. To have scepticism towards new tech gadgets (with boxes full of them gathering dust in the closet).
    But hey, according to you that makes me a '360 fangirl' so it can be dismissed right?
  • Brianstorm #158 5 years ago

    But smelly has a point, more wii threads get spoiled by fans of other consoles than any other format, change is a strange thing, some people embrace it, while it destroys others....
  • Carrybagma #159 5 years ago

    Not really. 360 and PS3 based threads get just as buggered up as Wii threads - often with Ninty fanboys like smelly doing the stirring. But - hello! - it's a comments thread!

    Having said that, the nature of 360 fanboy attacks is changing. There's a note of despair about them recently, almost certainly caused by fear of second place. Some cling to Bioshock and Halo3, thinking one or both will propel their beloved console to the top of the sales pile, but neither will. Ok, Halo3 will do some good, but not enough to stave off the advance of the hated giimmick. Even the lowly PS3 will outsell the 360 within a couple of years. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

    :o)
  • messiahtj #160 5 years ago

    STUPIDIEST PERIPHERAL/GAME EVEEEEEEEEEER!!!!!! NINTENDO IS FUCKING RETARDED DOINT THIS SHIT.
  • Carrybagma #161 5 years ago

  • Razz #162 5 years ago

    I wish Benyoncé would fly through my window and make sweet love to me
  • DjFlex52 #163 5 years ago

    "I wish Benyoncé would fly through my window and make sweet love to me"

    hmmm, Benyonce.....Is that Beyonce's brother?
  • Brianstorm #164 5 years ago

    I wish Beyoncé would fly through my window and make sweet love to me on my wii balance board...


    Fixed...
  • Kryon #165 5 years ago

    /Kryon Comedy Club.


    Carrybagma comes home from school and enters a conversation with his dad :

    Carrybagma - "Hey dad, I just lost my virginity today!"

    Dad - "Well done son, that's my boy!"

    Carrybagma - "I've just got one question though dad"

    Dad - "What's that son?"

    Carrybagma - "When will my arse stop hurting?"

    BADUM-TSHHhh!
  • Carrybagma #166 5 years ago

  • Rodney #167 5 years ago

    @ lambtron on the first page of comments.

    You are right cardio is useless for losing weight but lower intensity cardio such as walking which is still cardio/aerobic is even less efficient.

    the most effect weight loss exercise is so intense it makes you nearly puke. it punches your metabolism in its face and increaeses EPOC/resting metabolic rate/ lean body mass.

    doing wii fit for an hour each day is burn probably the equivlant to one bowl of cereal so restricing your daily diet by 300 calories each day would probably be just as effective as wii fit for 7 hours a week.
  • pascalaki #168 5 years ago

    A was reading an article on the Amiga computer
    It seems they invented a device similar to Wii Fit around 1985 for the Atari VCS,
    the Amiga joyboard

    http://ar stechnica.com/articles/culture/...
  • Kryon #169 5 years ago

    @pascalaki

    Nice find, so not only do Ninty charge £179 for a glorified Cube with a light gun, they also rip off 20 year old Amiga peripherals and call it 'innovation' ... Wiilol
  • smelly #170 5 years ago

    Kryon : I presume you're a 360 owner. So as you're "wiilol"ing.. can i join in?

    Did you know that the wii has now outsold your beloved machine worldwide.. WIILOL!!!!

    Or perhaps as you're going on about ripping things off.. I seem to remember seeing a controller on a certain console which looked exactly the same as the buzz controller? WIILOL!!
    Edited by 1 at 24/08/07 @ 02:55
  • Kryon #171 5 years ago

    Yes Smelly me old chum, I am a 360 owner, believe it or not, I'm also a Wii owner so I'm partly responsible for the amazing sales figures the Wii has achieved. The area in which you and I differ is that I don't have brand loyalty to Ninty (or anyone else). I love the 360 because of the games I enjoy on it, I mock the Wii because as of yet there are no games I enjoy on it (and the system with extra wii-motes etc cost me a hell of alot more than my 360 did) and won't be until Smashbros comes out (whenever that's sposed to be) and because it gets up the noses of genuine fanboys like, erm you:) so let me sing you a little Friday morning song!

    Monday, Tuesday, Wiilol days! Wednesday, Thursday, Wiilol days! The weekend comes, the Wiilol bums, smelly all night n day!

    /Fonzy "aaayyeee"
  • Carrybagma #172 5 years ago

  • afghan_jones #173 5 years ago

    Kryon wins, smelly loses and goes home to cry bitter salty tears into his threadbare Super Mario bros duvet.
  • Carrybagma #174 5 years ago

  • smelly #175 5 years ago

    "Not really. 360 and PS3 based threads get just as buggered up as Wii threads - often with Ninty fanboys like smelly doing the stirring."

    1. I own a 360, so why am i not allowed to post in threads about games i own/play?
    2. Show me one thread where i've "stirred"

    Every wii thread ends up with all the 360 owners telling the world "the wii is shit, it's a kids toy, yadda yadda.

    That's not the same as someone posting in a thread about halo (for example) and saying he didnt like it (i dont)
  • Kryon #176 5 years ago

    "Show me one thread where i've "stirred" "

    BUAHAHAHAAHAHAHA...cough..hahahah...heh heh...uh-hum....

    Comedy Gold mate, seriously five stars for effort!
  • Grayvern #177 4 years ago

    @ rodney.

    Actually an hour a days walking combined with healthy eating can lead to healthy weight loss, I was 13 stone 7 and I'm now 9 stone it took me 4 months.

    Studies also show that prolonged low level exercise like walking is far better for you than short high intensity exercise, think an hour of walking compared to 20 minutes of running.

    High intensity work outs loose you weight by gaining muscle which require more nutrients to maintain.

    But if your saying that the balance board wont loose you weight your probably right because its too stationary.