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WarHawk Comments by Richard Leadbetter

30 August, 2007

It's a battlefield out there.

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Azazel
30/08/07 @ 15:23
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No no Draqule your right with Bioshock..its more a 9 than a 10.

/ponders the difference between 9 and 10
mingster
30/08/07 @ 15:29
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So i'm still in the dark about...

how the vehicles / planes handle
how many vehicles there are
how well does the sixaxis work

any one know?

rashes
30/08/07 @ 15:30
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@Azazel

lets not go there.... it's an emotive one....
oldergamer
30/08/07 @ 15:33
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I gotta say this review is a tad sterile... The 8/10 tempts me but I'm afraid I'll get bored after a few hours. How does this compare to playing Resistance online, which is the only MP experience I have so far? Better?
JediMasterMalik
30/08/07 @ 15:36
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Better I'd say, and alot more variety, vehicles, turrets, and ground combat, it all works well imo.
S.J.Rogers
30/08/07 @ 15:40
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No PS3 for me yet then..!

Will stick with 360 and wait fro CoD4, UT and Halo 3...
Weezer
30/08/07 @ 15:44
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Those pics don't look a whole lot next-gen to me.

TheGrandChappo
30/08/07 @ 15:48
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@S.J Rogers

You've made the right choice! I bought a PS3 at launch and hardly use it! Of course when the quality games start rolling in it im sure it'll rack up the hours!

Still, traded RFOM & Motorstorm in for Bioshock last Friday and lovin' it.

Will download Warhawk tonight
El_MUERkO
30/08/07 @ 15:57
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Will download it tonight I think, hopefully Sony will sort the subaccount issue and it'll be fine :)
kangarootoo
30/08/07 @ 16:03
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@Weezer

I never base my opinion purely on stills. Motion blur, frame rate and just general pace of movement all effect how things appear in the end. Burnout for example looks nice in stills, but looks amazing when moving. MotoGP looks a bit flat in stills, but looks ace when moving because it never drops frames. Warhawk looks very good when its hoofing about the place, nice smoke effects, nice explosions, good frame rates. Its worth seeing it running if you can before making a descision.
Kenshin001
30/08/07 @ 16:12
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Only read good reports of this game by people who have actually played it. What with Resistance already, this, COD4, Haze, UT etc all this year there is going to be a virtual feast of online multiplayer goodness.
BiscuitBase
30/08/07 @ 16:18
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"PS3 in good game shocker!!!"
zuljin
30/08/07 @ 16:18
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@mingster
"how the vehicles / planes handle"
Good responsive, all very different. All have own strengths weaknesses.
4x4 - very fast / skiddy / easy to tumble over with (3 to a jeep)

tank - slower, packs a punch, good for clearing mines, with a buddy sporting a rocket launcher it is a very good comb (2 to a tank).

Warhawk - very fast, only takes 2 rocket launcher missiles to take out though, so quite fragile. Fantastic for darting across map stealing opponent flag when they are just about to capture yours! (2 to a plane)

"how many vehicles there are"
Warhawk / tank / 4x4. Then you have MG turrets, flak cannons, and missile launcher turrets - not strictly vehicles, but very useful since unlimited ammo.

"how well does the sixaxis work"
Mmm. Personally not my thing, I guess some people would use it, just like the Motorstorm SIXAXIS controls are funky, but I'll stick to normal buttons for now anyway.
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malarky
30/08/07 @ 16:59
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Where's the euro servers? Having to play with transatlantic pings is shit.
Scimarad
30/08/07 @ 17:01
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Was playing this on split-screen earlier on - Huuuuge ammounts of fun!

Two or more on the same console VS the online hordes is just amazing...
macksed
30/08/07 @ 17:11
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i know it shouldn't, but this game makes me really really really tempted to spend what i've saved for uni and get a ps3 :S
JediMasterMalik
30/08/07 @ 17:21
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@BiscuitBase - After Resistance, NG Sigma, EG5, Motorstorm, and SSHD of course!
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oldergamer
30/08/07 @ 17:21
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I have a mental map of the games to play this year and it's making me feel a little embarrassed: Bioshock, Warhawk, Metroid, Halo 3, Ratchet, Mass Effect, etc. I am truly ashamed.
belziah
30/08/07 @ 17:38
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@WaxBrazillian

why? I mean, just why?

I suppose it must take your mind off being felched by the local vagrant(yes, we know you call him Dad but to the rest of us he's "pissy Bob")

Go play one of the wonderful 9/10 games us "poor" PS3 owners dont have and stfu
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JediMasterMalik
30/08/07 @ 17:40
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@oldergamer - That sounds like a good list to me. :)

Though you're missing SMG and Uncharted.
BootLace
30/08/07 @ 18:02
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Just had a quick go on this. Was a little annoyed initially when trying to join the SCEE servers; there's an irritating delay between selecting a server and it telling you it's now full. I was probably just really unlucky it took so many attempts, but once I got in, have to say it is really good fun. It's more of a back to basics Battlefield (kept reminding me of Codename Eagle), with a sort of arcadey feel that makes it easier to get into. Hopefully that won't hurt it's longevity.

Still, good couple of weeks for gaming, let's hope it carries on.
Ryze
30/08/07 @ 18:25
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Hey - it's good!

Wowzers.
JYM60
30/08/07 @ 18:41
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EG clan. Space for 15 more.

See forum, unless you're a wierd tardy troll. In which case, there is no forum. :)
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dryden555
30/08/07 @ 19:08
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only 5 maps total though? Did I read that right? You can scale a map down for fewer players but sheesh that's cheap.
oldergamer
30/08/07 @ 19:38
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@Jedimastermalik

Left those two games out so the list wouldn't look too long... they are must-plays, too.
smelly
30/08/07 @ 20:19
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Sounds good.. now gimme ratchet and clank!
smelly
30/08/07 @ 20:20
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>"PS3 in good game shocker!!!"

it's only been out 6 months!

Give it a break.
warzin
30/08/07 @ 20:51
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Hardly, it's nearly a year since its proper release and that was delayed by many months. I like the PS3 but lets stop making excuses.

But the myth it has no good games gets boring about as boring as the 360 is only good for FPS and racing games myth.
Dr.Mott
30/08/07 @ 21:08
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Or the myth about the Wii having no games. No wait, that one's true...
Monkey-Wizard-Ken
30/08/07 @ 21:23
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The PS3 has a good game!, shocking :)
Even more shocking, this game was very nearly canned.
DanC89
30/08/07 @ 21:29
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It's feckin' good.
jynxce
30/08/07 @ 21:45
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Now this is rich. The game has no bots & 4 less maps than Shadowrun on the 360, but scores a full 2 points higher. Try to be a little more subtle next time...
caligari
30/08/07 @ 22:03
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Smelly poverty stricken kids in 'I'll diss what I can't afford' shocker!!!

:)
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30/08/07 @ 22:46
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Richard Leadbetter: Thank you for highlighting the DRM issue, it has stopped me from buying the PSN version of the game and since I'm missing the 'fun launch period' I might not bother with the game at all.
Darren
30/08/07 @ 23:13
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Wow, what a surprise that Warhawk should turn out to be so damn good. Downloaded it earlier in less than an 40 minutes and have only had a few goes on it but it's bloody good fun for a multiplayer-only game and the graphics, whilst artistically simple, are superb, running fast and smooth no matter how much is going on. Perfectly priced at £20 in my opinion, if it'd been any more then it would likely have passed me by.
Darren
30/08/07 @ 23:15
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jynxce - "Now this is rich. The game has no bots & 4 less maps than Shadowrun on the 360, but scores a full 2 points higher. Try to be a little more subtle next time..."

... yet Warhawk costs half the price of Shadowrun and plays a lot better!!! ;)
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30/08/07 @ 23:17
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Darren: No need to argue when it is a blatant troll attempt.
allen
31/08/07 @ 00:46
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i propose a new scoring scheme. the more maps and bots you have the closer you are to 10. its the only fair way.

off topic: warhawk is jolly good fun, shame the drm is a bit over the line but i'm only account user on my ps3 so not a huge worry for me. they could have done it differently though.
Vandrius
31/08/07 @ 01:42
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Richard (reviewer), your choice to ramble on about DRM on the downloadable version was too much. You dragged the DRM ramble against Sony over FOUR PARAGRAPHS on a ONE page review. I'm sorry, but that isn't good reviewing, and you shouldn't have dragged it out past one para. Its a valid point, but not worth spending half the review on.

Please take that as constructive criticism.
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31/08/07 @ 01:47
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It's a terrible decision that only highlights the issues of the PSN service.

The Game allows you to play 4 player splitscreen online but these players are not allowed their own profiles and they act as guests on your main account. No stats will be tracked for them.

The inconcistency of allowing 4 player splitscreen but then not allowing the other profiles on the console to play deserves no defense from anyone.
3william56
31/08/07 @ 04:52
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I don't see what the DRM fuss is about. How many people here are really affected by this in practice, not in whatif theory? Really?

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Thought not. Quit whinging.

Back to the game please.

Question: does the restriction on accounts also make sure (a) you can permanently ban idiots without them turning up under a different name every 3 seconds, or (b) good players causing havoc in the lower ranks by continually slumming under a low ranked account? Sounds like a good thing to me.

Jeez, didn't think I'd ever say this, but the IGN review is better - points out the major weakness is spawn site camping (why no temporary invulnerability after respawn so you can get to cover, as has been standard in 1P shooters since the 80s??), lack of tutorials (really need an option to have a 1P practice game with even just static targets to get to grips with the controls before heading out into the jungle of the interweb) and lack of bots. Will download this weekend, but know I'll be getting my ar$e handed to me quick sharp - hope it doesn't ruin the game.
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31/08/07 @ 05:17
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Uhm I could have sworn there was a temporary invulnerability in the beta.
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Virvel
31/08/07 @ 06:31
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I downloaded this game yesterday and it is great! Spent all night playing it and cant wait to get online again tonight.

But it IS very similar to battlefield and even to Tribes1 from 1998...

And all the rambling about the PSN download being restricted userwise.. I dont get it, its not like it costs alot of money, and who REALLY is affected by this? I would say well over 90% are not affected by the restrictions, and those who are can either buy two online viersions, or pay twice the price for the blueray disc.
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31/08/07 @ 07:09
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I'm affected, anyone who has several accounts are affected. Anyone who has a family sharing a console is affected.

Especially since this is a ranked game and that you are pretty much leveling up one character while playing.

If several profiles aren't supported you cannot level up several characters and you cannot have different skins and so on.

So the PSN version is for loners.
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31/08/07 @ 07:11
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It's a ridiculous decision to limit it to one account. It would be enough if it works pretty much like it does now (1 activation at a time) but that the activation is global for the console and not just that particular profile on the console. Maybe they don't have the framework for it?

Maybe they should fix that.
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31/08/07 @ 07:11
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Remember: This should not affect my judgment or any others of the game. The game is good. But Sony are behaving like arses in this particular case.
Les
31/08/07 @ 07:20
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How's the online community for this game (for as far as you can tell in this early stage)? What’s put me off of playing online games so far are the trash talking little fanboys that typically play online games.
kali_mist
31/08/07 @ 07:37
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Les Said:How's the online community for this game (for as far as you can tell in this early stage)? What’s put me off of playing online games so far are the trash talking little fanboys that typically play online games.

I played a few hours last night; there is not much talking so you would not really notice the wankers.
If you want a few games add my psn: mlennon
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31/08/07 @ 07:43
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The Beta had some trashtalking americans on the SCEA servers. Strangely it was better on the unranked servers.
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31/08/07 @ 07:59
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Yes, there are some invulnerability when you spawn. At least I think it is, you are at least invisible for a couple of seconds.

The only negative I found so far is that it's damn hard get into the ranked games. Either they are full or the game so ;)
But do think you can't join mid-game? And when you try it says game is full..
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