Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II

Hail bonding.

"Alcoholism's a strong word... but we're a rowdy studio," says Dawn of War II's charismatic lead designer Jonny Ebbert, who has just been telling us about how a fifth of them got thrown out of their own Christmas party, and how when they're not being manhandled by bouncers they like to "knock each other out or smash stuff; all kinds of crazy shit". Alright then.

As amusing as it is to hear developers go off-script, it's key to understanding the bullish Canadian developer. The team works hard, plays hard and trusts in one another. And, as a group, exudes confidence in what it is creating.

This is important for Dawn of War II, full sequel to the 2004 Warhammer 40,000-themed action-RTS, as it provides the team with the creative security to reject a bunch of the generic conventions it has slavishly adhered to in the studio's 11-year existence; to remould the RTS as an accessible, inclusive experience, and not just an impenetrable dark art lorded by swivel-eyed hunchbacks with 17 fingers and a PhD in Qwerty. Oli's already covered Relic's bleak account of the state of the genre and plans to give it a good kick up the RTS. Inside the developer's offices in Vancouver, it's time to put these claims to the test.

"PC has been in a bit of a rut; we've done it to ourselves," admits Ebbert, reviving the theme. "We've made it way too freaking complicated and we haven't kept up with other genres." So what to do? Plunder what you can from successful, forward-looking genres, of course. And Relic has distilled this into a three-point manifesto for change: better rewards; no more starting over; making you care about your units. These guiding principles are evident from the moment you fire up the game: before you do anything, you must name your commander. It's a simple, obvious touch, but one that immediately personalises the experience.

The only race that will be playable out of the box on day one is the Space Marines. More are certain to follow via expansions and DLC, but for now Relic wants to deliver the most engaging experience it can across a single narrative arc. Fair enough. Other races come into play in multiplayer. The five-mission demo at Relic offers a solid sample of the Campaign's style, taking in action across two worlds, sprawling squabbles with Orks, the Eldar and numerous jabbering bosses, while laying out the core features. Missions are deliberately short; squads are limited to a maximum of four, each with their own pumped sergeant; resourcing and base-building are jettisoned in favour of bloody rampage; perks and upgrades flood in. It's like watching Match of the Day highlights: all of the exciting bits lumped together, with most of the boring build-up left on the cutting room floor.

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A jet-packed Assault Marine soars above the battle raging below.

Relic says it wants to reward the player, and the rewards come thick and fast. Here the team takes its cue from MMOs. "In massives you get rewarded every 10 minutes," notes Ebbert. "Reward, bam, good job. Somebody's either telling you 'awesome job!', or they're giving you something. So we integrated that into our game." The first notable reward comes right after the short and sweet first mission. Beginning on the planet Caldius, a recruiting colony for Blood Ravens, player forces are tasked with repelling the Ork enemy, driving the filthy, gurning cowards back into a mineshaft and destroying the entrance. Thanks to our stunning heroics we get an improved chainsword and begin to power up our forces. Yippee!

Persistence is essential to the attachment Relic wants us to feel for our squads. The squads you start the game with, you'll finish it with, so it helps if you care. Mercifully, despite what Relic staff do in their spare time, bonding in-game doesn't require 20 pints of Stella and rolling around in the street with a bouncer. Instead it comes through gradually upgrading abilities, like health and melee skills, in-between missions with currency that has been accrued. So the characters not only develop through the narrative (and nifty CGI cut-scenes add a lot here), they also grow in stature according to the way you play the game. And Relic is keen to add that the story itself is not strictly linear: you will have a degree of choice of which missions you choose and where you go in the campaign.

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Has shooting Orks in the face ever looked this good?

In certain missions there are also Stratagems that can be captured. Secure and reinforce these (your enemies will try to seize them back), and they can be used as healing points as well as dispensing items. There's something called 'Blessing of Fortitude' in the second mission, for examples, which offers 15 seconds of invulnerability to all units - rather handy in boss battles.

Early missions, bosses aside, begin fairly low-key, spacing out the enemy onslaught as you make yourself comfortable at your command deck. But by the end of the demo, your squads are dug around the walls of a capital building, flanked by numerous AI units, defending it against a multi-faceted Ork onslaught. It's like a mini Battle of Helm's Deep, intense, dramatic and very easy on the eyes. Dawn of War II ditches the old engine and uses the one that powered Company of Heroes. And it shows. The dark fantasy of 40k is recreated in fine detail. Individual unit animations are bursting with personality; and the sense of being caught up in brutal combat is heightened by the incessant chattering and screaming from your own squads and foes, over the general cacophony of war. Each of the bosses we encounter has several mouthfuls of deliciously dry abuse they taunt you with, which only adds to your desire to shred them into a thousand tiny cubes of singed flesh.

Before long you will have more than the four-squad limit at your disposal. Then it's down to your own tactical choice which you choose - but it's handled neatly via a drag-and-drop menu pre-mission. By far our favourite is Thaddeus and his Assault Marine Squad. These jetpack-powered bad boys, once given a target, blast into the air and descend in unison, wreaking havoc as they plunge into the enemy. Satisfaction guaranteed.

While single-player is heavily weighted towards uncluttered, streamlined action, those hankering after more traditional RTS fare are catered for in multiplayer. "Some publications have mistakenly said there's no base-building in the game, there's no resource gathering," says Ebbert. "That's not true - it's still in multiplayer." This is the result of one of the most significant design decisions Relic has taken: to treat the single- and multiplayer components largely as separate games. Once more, it's all to do with the push to move the genre forward and broaden its appeal.

Ebbert credits Infinity Ward for being the first developer to deliver a game - Call of Duty 4 - that successfully tackled this issue. "They came out well after we started development, but they were the first to release and say, you know, f*** it, they're two separate games. And no-one objected. That's kind of the approach we took: multiplayer is for the more traditional. You need resource-gathering, you need base-building as a pacing mechanic." Yet even here, accessibility is the watchword. Dawn of War II multiplayer must achieve the tricky twin aims of satisfying veterans of the series while encouraging newcomers to take the plunge online. To facilitate the latter, the team has invested a lot of time in its three-versus-three Team Battle mode, which is what we play. Believing that straight one-on-one scraps intimidate less experienced gamers, co-op elements and teamwork have been built in to ensure everyone can have a blast.

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Units are rendered in excellent detail, as is the blood they spew.

Unlike the Marine-focused campaign, multiplayer offers a choice of four races: Space Marines, the Eldar, Orks and - making their long-awaited DoW debut - Tyranids. Crucially, after picking a race you must choose a hero to lead your assault. Each race has three heroes, representing different classes. Only the Space Marines are available during the playtest though. They have: Force Commander, with the formidable melee skills of his single-player counterpart; Apothecary, exclusive to multiplayer, which is the healer unit, swift to revive fallen comrades; and Tech Marine, again multiplayer-only, who knows his way around a tool kit, able to construct defences, reinforcement points and turrets.

This differs from, say, the Commander Trees of Company of Heroes, since you make the decision before entering the fray. And your choice defines your role on the battlefield. Beyond that, the territory is familiar. There are three types of strategic point scattered across the maps - Power, Requisition and, in a nod to Company of Heroes, Victory - that you have to capture while seeking to overwhelm the enemy. You can go all out to grab Victory points gradually to erode your foe's resistance. Or you can go for broke and annihilate their base for an instant win.

Progression also features in multiplayer, although unlike the Campaign, it only lasts within a single session. Heroes can be levelled up to a limit of level 10; boosting tactics include killing an opposing hero and reviving a teammate. A level-10 Force Commander, Relic assures, will "kick the ass" of one at level 1. As you'd expect, really. Meanwhile, customisation of heroes here happens during battle - with war gear becoming available as you harness more requisition and power.

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The engine that powered Company of Heroes is big on bangs.

The handful of games we squeeze in are riotous. Battles see-saw tantalisingly; and it's reassuring to note that even when one side is staring defeat in the face, some elegant manoeuvring can quickly turn a fight on its head. During intense, crowded encounters it's sometimes difficult to make out what is going on beneath the flaming, billowing carnage, but it's hard not to admire the pyrotechnic tour de force on display. Company of Heroes might have to defer to realism, but with Dawn of War II Relic seems intent on using the engine to pump out the biggest, most absurd fireworks display you've ever seen. And it looks fantastic. With people of all skills involved, Relic's point is made. Win or lose, the action in this brief taster is spectacular enough to satisfy you in its own right.

What's more, a further "massive reveal" on multiplayer is coming soon, Ebbert reveals. Presumably that will include a look at the announced but yet-to-be-seen co-op campaign. For now, Dawn of War II impressed us at first glance, and has impressed us again at first play. It's pure action-RTS and some may baulk at a few of the simplifications - change is often as feared as it is welcomed. Either way, it's intoxicating stuff. But Relic knows all about that.

Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II is due out for the PC in spring 2009.

Comments (64) Latest comment 3 years ago

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  • Jigglybean #1 3 years ago

    I cant wait for this. I just hope it isnt dumbed down too much from the original, which I loved
  • spimmy #2 3 years ago

  • mingster #3 3 years ago

    Some publications have mistakenly said there's no base-building in the game, there's no resource gathering," says Ebbert. "That's not true - it's still in multiplayer." This is the result of one of the most significant design decisions Relic has taken: to treat the single- and multiplayer components largely as separate games

    read the review properly spimmy you nonce.
  • TriggerHippie #4 3 years ago

    Dumbed down? Have you even read the article?
  • Zander #5 3 years ago

    Hurray up already. Although I am also concerned about the dumbing down and how far these rpg elements are creeping into the game. Still Relic haven't disappointed before so I am sure it will be amazing.
  • jonfon #6 3 years ago

    No Base Building :)

    This sounds more like the 40k I used to play than DoW 1 which was a bit odd with all its Base Building. This sounds closer to the original tabletop game. Plus it gives it a strong distinction from Star Craft 2.

    *edit : Oh there is base building in Multiplayer? Drat!

    Not sure I like the idea of the campaign being Marines only though :(
    Edited by 1 at 20/11/08 @ 11:55
  • the_dudefather #7 3 years ago

    looks good, wonder what the multiplayer will be like
  • rudedudejude #8 3 years ago

    I AM FEAR INCARNATE!!!

    LOVE the voice acting from DoW, sending my FC in with a squad and ripping up shit was highly satisfying. Hope they have kept the awesome voices.

    Looking forward to this like hell, will be upgrading my system for it.
  • TriggerHippie #9 3 years ago

    I don't understand how people are reading the addition of game mechanics from Company of Heroes with a dash of RPG as dumbing down. Really, is base building the hallmark of a complex RTS? :S
    Edited by 1 at 20/11/08 @ 12:06
  • JediMasterMalik #10 3 years ago

    Sounds brilliant, but yeah I want more campaign stories :(
  • rudedudejude #11 3 years ago

    Let them get the engine updates complete and perfect ... then come the narrative and campaigns, possibly through expansions.

    It's nice to see an RTS that just isn't the fisher price C&C3 engine rehashed.
  • Evolution #12 3 years ago

    Original DoW campaign was marine only wasn't it?
  • spekkeh #13 3 years ago

    I grew tired of RTSes ten years ago, but this games look awesome. If it manages to sufficiently change the genre, I might buy it.
  • Snidesworth #14 3 years ago

    So, we're getting real time Chaos Gate single player and old fashioned, proper RTS multiplayer? Sounds good to me.
  • anomagnus #15 3 years ago

    fuck yea baby, i cant wait for this!
  • Iora #16 3 years ago

    If you have played Company of Heroes or watched one of the demostration videos of this game then you'll know it isnt dumbed down. You can't tank rush you way through this.
  • BobsUncle #17 3 years ago

    Is that all your strength can muster?
  • paketep #18 3 years ago

    Shouldn't it be Dawn of SecuROM? :(
  • BobsUncle #19 3 years ago

    Build routine 752 initiated.
  • BobsUncle #20 3 years ago

    ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS!
  • BobsUncle #21 3 years ago

    We'll be all sneaky like.
  • BobsUncle #22 3 years ago

    Even in death I still serve.
  • BobsUncle #23 3 years ago

    I'm da biggest so I'm da boss.
  • Zander #24 3 years ago

    Please, no more kicking!!!
  • Zander #25 3 years ago

    Knowledge is power, hide it well
  • Zander #26 3 years ago

    What are your needs
  • Zander #27 3 years ago

    @TriggerHippie

    The guy said he thinks things are too complex as they are, hence why it sounds like (we haven't said it HAS been dumbed down), it is getting a dumb down. Also I don't need to be told I am awesome every 5 minutes by a computer game. I am not that insecure!!!

    I have played non base build rts games before (Soldiers Heroes of WW2 is brillant) so no its not the hall mark but what do you replace it with??? Hopefully something good, we'll see....
  • General_Zod #28 3 years ago

    A moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy.
  • knightmt #29 3 years ago

    It sounds quite quick which is a plus, I often get stuck in rts for days.
    Good work, will see what happens.
  • gmjapan #30 3 years ago

    A Space Marine only campaign in the original hit a bum note with alot of people. Surprised to see them repeat that.
  • Azazel #31 3 years ago

    I'm sure they'd be only too happy to include a non-marines SP campaign. Providing everyone is happy waiting an extra 6 months.
  • BobsUncle #32 3 years ago

  • BobsUncle #33 3 years ago

  • Zander #34 3 years ago

    Sanity is for the weak!
  • Turrican #35 3 years ago

    While I'm sure the single player will be great (and much better than the original SP before they turned the expansions into Risk games), we have to remember that playing a game where you slowly construct a base and build up a force is appealing to a lot of people (like me), and not a sign of fear because Relic are trying something new.

    I think the key question Eurogamer should have asked was whether the multiplayer mode can be played against the AI, as many people don't actually like to play other people all the time (for isntance, I can pause the game and come back to it!!).

    I found with the original DoW it was the skirmishes against the AI that had me coming back for more, I hope this allows the same.
  • BobsUncle #36 3 years ago

  • kangarootoo #37 3 years ago

    ""Alcoholism's a strong word... but we're a rowdy studio," says Dawn of War II's charismatic lead designer Jonny Ebbert, who has just been telling us about how a fifth of them got thrown out of their own Christmas party, and how when they're not being manhandled by bouncers they like to "knock each other out or smash stuff; all kinds of crazy shit". Alright then."

    Not a good opening. There is nothing more cringe inducing than hearing slightly nerdish people talk about how "mental" they are, just because they got pissed once and nicked a Batman movie poster out of a bus stop shelter window.

    "Knock each other out or smash stuff..."

    "Do you really knock each other out?"

    "Well, no."

    "Thought not."
  • Zander #38 3 years ago

    @Turrican

    Totally agree. Also I am too shite to play against people so I'll be hoping for the same skirmish mode.
  • Schiraman #39 3 years ago

    @BobsUncle: actually that's a misquote, if you listen carefully you can hear the Dreadnaught's ultimately carefree spirit bubbling through: "Even in death I still surf."

  • Ryuken #40 3 years ago

    "I found with the original DoW it was the skirmishes against the AI that had me coming back for more, I hope this allows the same. "

    I wouldn't be surprised if skirmish is actually the most played option of all RTS games.
    Edited by 1 at 20/11/08 @ 13:35
  • BobsUncle #41 3 years ago

    @Schiraman, listen closer and you'll hear the smug Librarian say

    Knowledge is power, I did well.



    (c) Antoine David, 2005 ish (Zander?)
  • Zander #42 3 years ago

    @kangarootoo

    Haha so true. "Look at me I drink beer so i must be cool right!?"

    Anyway the Police want you to return that Batman poster :-)

  • Gastrian #43 3 years ago

    I'd rather one good storyline to play than twenty crap ones. Thats what annoyed me about the last expansion, even in the Capital missions there was no storyline to speak of and made playing each race samey and boring.

    Also if there's no base building and you have a pre-selected number of units with RPG elements does that make this a Real-Time Tactics game as opposed to a Real-Time Strategy?
  • Zander #44 3 years ago

    Yep, to Antoine the Librarian was just some smug bastard self congratulation himself all the time. But then what did Antoine know, all he built was scout squads...
    Edited by 1 at 20/11/08 @ 13:47
  • Laxy #45 3 years ago

    EG, haven't you gone a little overboard with those screenshots? I doubt anyone here has a 6000x4000 pixel monitor.
  • glaeken #46 3 years ago

    Walk softly and carry a big gun

    Nice to see I am not the only one who loved the voice acting on the first game :)
  • rudedudejude #47 3 years ago

    Of course they'll be a skirmish mode guys, every RTS since red Alert has had skirmish.
  • Tetragammatron #48 3 years ago

    How can they dumb down an RTS that never even had the S in the first place?
  • BobsUncle #49 3 years ago

    I wonder if anyone here knows what an army of scouts looks like? Probably not becuase you'd have to be an idiot to build one, or play with a spaz who did.

    Nearly as cool as that army of dreadnoughts and Terminators.
  • Iora #50 3 years ago

    "By my bloody hand"
  • the_dudefather #51 3 years ago

    Command and conquer hijack!

    I GOT A PRESENT FOR YA

  • Doctor_Hellsturm #52 3 years ago

    Yes eg, please bring some meat on the skirmish single player next time around. Unsocial people have buying power too. BTW: Hillarious Batman-comment.
  • mull #53 3 years ago

    I agree, I think it's a shame they're going traditional with the multiplayer. It'll still be great, though, I'm sure.
  • kangarootoo #54 3 years ago

    "Anyway the Police want you to return that Batman poster :-) "

    SHIT!
  • sneetch #55 3 years ago

    @kangarootoo
    "Not a good opening. There is nothing more cringe inducing than hearing slightly nerdish people talk about how "mental" they are, just because they got pissed once and nicked a Batman movie poster out of a bus stop shelter window."

    Ah, but it's not just that, they also have two traffic cones, a "Danger: hard hat area" sign and this flashing amber light they took from some roadworks! Man, they're completely crazy! You never know what they'll do next! Woooo! Spring Break! Wooo! Etc.

    I'm not convinced about the single player campaign, it sounds more like Dungeon Siege than an RTS. I like the "no base building" thing but I don't like the sound of only controlling 4 squads, particularly because in all the demo videos I've seen so far a marine squad is now, apparently, only 3 guys. I just don't think that it'll have the same epic feeling that the first one did. With only 13 marines (including the commander) I don't think we'll see those awesome tyrannid horde shock-attacks that I first envisioned when I heard they were in the game.

    Still, we'll see.
  • rudedudejude #56 3 years ago

    I can't really think of Relic ever making a poor game in the past before.
  • Tzetrik #57 3 years ago

    @ BobsUncle

    "@Schiraman, listen closer and you'll hear the smug Librarian say

    Knowledge is power, I did well."

    Actually it's "Knowledge is Power, HIDE it well."
  • jetsetdemo #58 3 years ago

    Warhammer 40k with No base building, the way it should have been from the start.

    All about points and how to spend them well!
  • darc #59 3 years ago

    "Alcoholism's a strong word... but we're a rowdy studio," says Dawn of War II's charismatic lead designer Jonny Ebbert, who has just been telling us about how a fifth of them got thrown out of their own Christmas party, and how when they're not being manhandled by bouncers they like to "knock each other out or smash stuff; all kinds of crazy shit"

    I'd like to fill out an application? :)
  • kuzanagi #60 3 years ago

    They do not have a prayer...
  • Gnort #61 3 years ago

    I wasn't sure about the new direction Relic was taking with this game, but each new preview makes me feel like it is absolutely the best thing to do with the series.

    My current PC barely runs Dawn of War I, but this game might tempt me to finally get a new one.
  • Kua #62 3 years ago

    SC2 + DOW2 = 'sploded head!
  • oupe #63 3 years ago

    "Alcoholism's a strong word... but we're a rowdy studio," says Dawn of War II's charismatic lead designer Jonny Ebbert, who has just been telling us about how a fifth of them got thrown out of their own Christmas party, and how when they're not being manhandled by bouncers they like to "knock each other out or smash stuff; all kinds of crazy shit". Alright then.

    See it next year in a crappy Discovery documentary series! When gamemakers go bad!
  • BobsUncle #64 3 years ago

    @Tzetrik

    That was a joke in response to Schiramans comment of

    @BobsUncle: actually that's a misquote, if you listen carefully you can hear the Dreadnaught's ultimately carefree spirit bubbling through: "Even in death I still surf."

    I see it flew way over your head. Never mind.