Virtual Console: The Most Wanted Comments by Dan Whitehead

SNES Mariokart......online battlemode. If they did that I would never need to buy another game again.

Most sane comment thread I've read in a while. Props!

I think the PS2 Saturn releases were more than likely converted to run specifically on the PS2 hardware rather than emulated. Unfortunately, this would require some effort from the original developers to get the games running on the Wii.

"Cannon Fodder is a good call. Only if it still has the theme tune though."

Damn, that got the tune in my head activated again... ;)

I've got the music from the hanglider levels on the SNES version of Pilotwings in my head. Trippy.

Just realised - We need Kick Off or Kick Off 2 on the Wii along with Sensible Soccer so we can recreate all the playground arguments about which is best

No love for Ultima 4 or 5 for the C64?
It does everything Oblivion claims to, but with more stype (and crappy graphics)

& no chance of playing Chaos? shame!

Sensible soccer on the snes was pretty horrible though. Amiga emulation using the nunchuck would be lovely. Ooh and mouse support using the pointer. I wonder if populous, kick off 2 and lemmings could manage to f'k up my marriage second time round :)

I would love to see Parodius ... and perhaps more Mystical Ninja. I miss Konami making silly games.

The only reason I can see to prefer goldeneye on the VC rather than the XBLA is the sheer amount of competition on the Xbox. Afficionados would lap it up - and a few curious others but it would be largely overlooked. On the wii it would be outstanding.

Generally in two minds about "updating" old classics. Sometimes it feels a bit like colourising an old classic film. But unlike old classic films many games look a bit rubbish on a big screen.

How about FIFA International Soccer on the MD? The only FIFA I actually enjoyed. Scoring Wildly flukey goals from the halfway line never gets old.

Mario Kart 64 is on the Virtual Console, but it's not the original, and the original is the best. No Super Mario Kart is as daft as having no Super Mario Bros.

Never were truer words spoken! I doff my cap off to you good sir!

Though, why no [SNES] Yoshi's Island?

"I miss Konami making silly games."

me too :(
i'd love to see a proper new parodius or goemon game (the latter in english preferably, i played a bit of the DS one but the language barrier got in the way a bit too much). hell i'd even settle for a new twinbee. otomedius can fuck right off.

I believe Wizball is in the offing for a VC appearance at some point...

@Cadence
If you download the ZSnes emulator, and the Super Mario Kart rom you can play races and battlemode online

@Krudster
thats because we're probably all old...
;)

where's sonic and knuckles? and yoshi's island? and megaman x?

SNES Mariokart......online battlemode. If they did that I would never need to buy another game again.

Is there a single VC release that actually adds anything? AFAIK they won't do anything beyond upload the ROM.

How about FIFA International Soccer on the MD? The only FIFA I actually enjoyed. Scoring Wildly flukey goals from the halfway line never gets old.

Neither did running away from the referee when he went to card you and having an endless chase around the pitch :)

Goldeneye I miss thee!

Sonic and Knuckles would be good if they somehow worked in the lock-on feature for the original Sonic trilogy though I don't know how they could do that. Sonic Jam on the Saturn does a perfect job of emulating this anyway so I don't mind.

@ neonemesis: I forgot about the 1st FIFA on the MD, I loved that game! Could do with Madden 92 on the VC as well... Looking back, EA produced a lot of good games for the MD.

And just thought of another for the N64 - ISS 98

how come no "wii is just a waggle fad" posts?

Yeah, Amiga emulation is a must. The pointer would be perfect.

@aine

There were some wonderfully silly Parodiuses ... Pariodii ? on the PSone. Otomedius is a new one on me ...

Forgot about Pop 'n' Twinbee ... *wail*

@krudster
I agree. Just review the next VC game and give it 9 out of 10. Things will return to normal.

April Fools day - do a head 2 head of arcade/console conversions on various platforms ... see who bites

Ea to sign up would be my wish, that would open up loads of awesome Mega Drive (and SNES) titles.

Sonic and Knuckles would be good if they somehow worked in the lock-on feature for the original Sonic trilogy though I don't know how they could do that. Sonic Jam on the Saturn does a perfect job of emulating this anyway so I don't mind.

It's easy to dump the compound ROMs didn't you know? They're just too lazy to do it.

They can keep the NES version of Metal Gear, it's fucking horrendous other than the translation.

'the truck have started moving!'

and the gaurd that proclaims he is going to sleep before nodding off are classics of engrish.

Agree we need the megadrive EA games and the disney games if possible. plus MD micromachines games and virtua racing and how about mega CD and 32x games like sonic CD and chaotix (never played but always wanted to) and sega arcade conversions.

I want Super Mario Allstars. Rather have those than the NES originals, and there's no harm in having multiple versions of one game on the VC. Just look at all the different SF2 varients.

You are aware that Chi no Rondo / Rondo of Blood is available for the PSP, as part of the rather excellent Castlevania Chronicles collection, right? Just making sure...

Oh, and while a Wasteland port would be nice, they would have to rewrite the game from the ground up to make it work on the Wii.

"& no chance of playing Chaos? shame!"

I don't think I could count the amount of hours I spent on that game, even now I will pop on and find a Java version to have a blast. As buggy as hell, but funny when they happened but none-the-less 8 player turned based startagy at it's best!

Goldeneye was really really good. But it should be revisited to be able to shoot using the Wiimote or something you can point. Would definitely pay the full price (of max 40Euros ;)) to get this game on Wii, even if not online.

Zerocool does have a point. The wii and the PC have identical architectures after all.

And of course the quality considerations for zsnes are identical to the snes emulation on the VC. As well.

To sum up. Zerocool is a genius and not remotely funny. No matter how he may appear.

set sail for fail! Where in all this is Chrono Trigger?

You can forget about Unirally.

Pixar got the original Snes game successfully removed from the shelves over it's resemblance to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red%27s_Dream

I actually included the story of the court case in that wikipedia article but some twat removed it.

Turok 2!

Goldeneye was really really good.

I disagree. "Really really good" doesn't do it justice. Goldeneye was absolutely the best FPS available on a console when it was released and for a good couple of years after. A true classic.

But, for the love of God, can we please now take off our rose-tinted spectacles and admit that it is actually pretty awful to play in 2008? The frame rate is extremely sluggish throughout, but frequently dips to levels that render the game almost unplayable.

"Nonsense, i have the rom of the game which is ran through Zsnes and it runs perfectly. More PR bullshit from Nintendo and a mis-informed Eurogamer."

Hahaha oh man. Are you serious?

XOR!!! Anyone remember this one? I had it on the Atari ST. I heard there was homebrew gameboy version or something, but I'd love to see it on VC.

As for the Earthbound; did Nintendo release at least one NTSC-only (back then) game for an European VC?

But, for the love of God, can we please now take off our rose-tinted spectacles and admit that it is actually pretty awful to play in 2008?

Apparently there are two categories of people posting here. Some of us actually play those oldies even these days, using original machines and/or emulators. My message for all the rest is: the best of NeoGeo and SNES emulators for PC are far more stable and less demanding than modern 'native' PC games, thus you can test on yourselves 'for free' whether you REALLY have what it takes to play 10+ years old games. Sure, there's nothing wrong with eventually paying for a game you truly enjoyed back in the days, nevertheless playing it now may turn out to be a crushing defeat.
By the way, who didn't play Chrono Trigger, should play it right now. Don't wait for almost certainly somehow raped NDS version.
P.S. I play Shining Force for GBA currently and the rape committed by almost-perfection-fixers is obvious even to me, who have never played the original version.

Ogre Battle 64 should of been in the N64 list, wicked game.

I'm still calling nonsense on the "technical issues with Mario Kart" approach. Even without using zSnes, the game runs fine through an injected .wad file, running in its own channel in the Wii menu screen. Admittedly that might not be the way Nintendo would like to resolve it, but... it still bloody works.

Oh well. Anyone with a modicum of sense (and an SD card) already has Chrono Trigger/Earthbound/Zombies... etc. installed on their Wii using other means. Good job on keeping us waiting, Nintendo.

Jaguar would be great, I still twitch at the thought of Tempest 2000.

There were so many good games for the jag, pity it failed. Also with atari goodness how about Warbirds for the Lynx with all the multiplayer active.

You are aware that Chi no Rondo / Rondo of Blood is available for the PSP, as part of the rather excellent Castlevania Chronicles collection, right? Just making sure...

/me takes out his coveted PC-Engine CD-Rom original, gently strokes it ^_^

"But, for the love of God, can we please now take off our rose-tinted spectacles and admit that it is actually pretty awful to play in 2008? The frame rate is extremely sluggish throughout, but frequently dips to levels that render the game almost unplayable."

Goldeneye is still awesome to play today. I plugged in my N64 not that long ago just to have a bit of a belt at some of the classics, i.e. Lylat Wars, Mario Kart 64, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark etc. As one might expect, I was absolutely livid to discover that my Goldeneye save file had been completely wiped somehow.

Anyway, after winning a hard battle against the strong urge to break absolutely everything I could find, I decided to sit down and play the game from the start and try to see how many of the cheats I could unlock again. Needless to say, I got hooked all over again and my nightmares of 00 Agent Facility have started to reoccur once more :/

Not once have I felt that the game was a let down in any area. It is still just as perfect as it was 11 years ago.

I can't believe the amount of fucking retards in here with the classic "why buy something when you can steal it, DUH".

I cannot believe you actually mentioned Last Blade 2 in that article...
Good on you Eurogamer, good on you!

They also need to put Garou on there as well as some of the lesser known/rarer NeoGeo fighters such as Agressors of Dark Combat, Savage Reign and Kizuna Encounter. The last one especially seeing as how there are only around 10 PAL copies in existence, the last one famously selling in the area of $12,000. Of course, if you emulate then this isn't a problem but still...

I can't believe the amount of fucking retards in here with the classic "why buy something when you can steal it, DUH".

Yeah, buy something not available, champion of justice.
In my opinion Virtual Console ought to be a retro gaming purist's platform of choice, but it looks like Nintendo just don't want all the money people would like to pay them. VC lags behind homebrew emulation in virtually every aspect. 'Technical issues' excuses are extremely unconvincig, considering superb quality of Nintendo systems emulation on other platforms. Not only that - Nintendo still seem to have a PAL problem, which is plain rude nowadays. Thus homebrew emulation is Hobson's choice in many cases.