Velvet Assassin Comments by Steve Hill

I was thinking this looks reasonable until I read his favourite stealth game was Manhunt. I wasn't really much of a fan, I like my stealth forgiving.

Still, stealth and WWII might work. We'll see.

"Morphine Mode" - Rewarding drug use?

The BBFC is NOT going to like that. 18 certificate right there.

the idea of a ww2 stealth game is nice.
we'll see about the execution.

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""Morphine Mode" - Rewarding drug use?

The BBFC is NOT going to like that. 18 certificate right there."

They'll like it a hell of a lot more than the Aussies censors will. The poor bastids down there will probably have to import this one and risk being sentenced to death if they get caught, or something.

Amusing how Morphine apparently has magical powers. Looking forward to hearing more about this one.

I don't know why, but I'm intrigued by this. It must be something to do with the sexual frisson implied by the title.

Or maybe I just want another No-One Leves Forever.

Looks interesting, i'm not sure i like this idea of "Morphine Mode" though, running around in a nightie stealth killing people sounds a bit....... lame.

Can we please stop making WW2 games please?

I'm so bored of killing Nazi's.

Maybe they should do a WW2 racing game to just cap it all off

I can't help but read that Creative Director quote in my head like:

"Ven you play Call Of Duty of course it looks realistic but it's not at all. Ze people, how zey run, zey're coming ze same vay always. In ze end ze game looks realistic but it is not realistic. I zink ven you don't claim to be realistic, zen you cannot be judged for not being"

mmmm leather knee lenght boots

"They tried to bomb this down but it was too strong"

Ze bunker vill last for a sousand years!!!!

"I'm so bored of killing Nazi's. "

I don't mind killing Nazi's, but I'm definitely bored of killing German slaves (ie the fodder you usually kill in WW2 games). Not all Germans were sodding Nazi's, not all of them were behind Hitler 100% I'm tired of patronising WW2 games that show the Germans as two-dimensional cartoons every time. It's truly insulting to everyone on the planet.

wonder if anyone will ever make a game where your the Nazi? could actually make for a good game. Kind of show everything from a different perspective. Developers would have to be very careful mind. I really think it could work though, with a good story showing how someone in the SS got to that level, through propaganda, life situations etc.

its good to see that someone is taking a different approach to WWII games rather than the usual lazy first person shooter (i'm looking at you Treyarch, why take CoD back to WWII? pricks)

but as this is set in WWII, i'm still definiately not going to buy it, i'm bored of that. oversaturation

"I'd take much more care than I would of Sam Fisher, because I don't care if he dies."

Such harsh words. :(

Yeah, this game is probably going to be rank.

I hope they don't push the "based on Violette Szabo" thing too hard, there's something about it that doesn't sit comfortably with me. The woman showed courage that would be beyond most of us by infiltrating occupied France for the British Special Operations Executive and virtually single-handedly re-organised the then-borked French Resistance; when captured by the Nazis she suffered horrific torture and repeated rapes before being executed at the age of 23 at the fag end of the war.

Basing a character on Szabo and sticking her in a "leather catsuit" or a "skimpy night-dress" strikes me as being in very poor taste and really disrespectful. I'm not offended by the GTAs or Manhunts this industry churns out: I find this concept much more offensive!

Totally agree lucky_jim. According to Edge magazine, they've also raised the age of the character somewhat because they thought players would think it 'unrealistic' for such a young girl to be taking on the Nazis... O_o

lucky_jim:

Same, although the prospect of dressing her up in skimpy catsuits doesn't offend me much. What I find uncomfortable is actually playing someone who

a) was real
b) was killed because of the events depicted in the game
c) was far braver, and achieved far more, than I have and probably ever will.

I just don't feel like anyone has the 'right' to 'control' even a loose likeness of her, even if the missions are only loosely based on their real-life counterparts. Somehow it feels like grave-robbing - uncomfortable, inappropriate and possibly messy.

...which is a strange feeling considering that I have no moral compass.

WW2 generates instant yawn.

And Violette Summer is a pornstar name if I ever heard one...

Did the Germans have grenades you could pull the pins out of?

I thought they had those stick-things where you had to twist it or whack it or whatever.

Undecided... sounds like Second Sight in its lookback precept, but I too am not sure about it being based on a real character. I mean, whatever next, a game based on the 'intelligence officer' Sarah Bryant, killed recently in Afghanistan - would it be acceptable to dress her up in catsuits and nighties as some sort of narrative tool?

Raises some interesting questions, anyway - like GenghisNaan says, perhaps we should also be questioning mowing down endless waves of people in games because they happened to be fighting for the side that lost?

I'm sure if we were all living in 'The Reich' now, playing Ze call off duty, we'd be merrily mowing down peasant Polish partisan troops in the early levels and working up to British Commandos defending Churchills secret underground bunker beneath the houses of Parliament for the big finale.

How refreshing that might be.

Not sure how you can do justice to the memory of a real person with something so fantastical.

I'm loving that second, monochrome, screenshot ...

What I find uncomfortable is actually playing someone who

a) was real
b) was killed because of the events depicted in the game
c) was far braver, and achieved far more, than I have and probably ever will.


Well you can play Julius Caesar and Gandhi in Civilization, that applies to both of them. I'm sure there are plenty of others, Chopin for one, although Eternal Sonata happens in a dream. Nobody bats an eye for the purposes of literature, film or TV, why should video games be any different?


and on the other question, isn't there a German campaign in Company of Heroes?

"One of the main criticisms of stealth games is that once your cover is blown, it ceases to be a stealth game. As the saying goes, you can't put toothpaste back in the tube. However, in Velvet Assassin, seemingly you can.

"You can re-hide," confirms Jungnickel. "You can reset every situation by running away and waiting for everyone to calm down. That's basically the mechanic that we loved in the Manhunt game, which I think is still the best sneaking mechanic of all the games. It takes a while but people will definitely calm down and you can have a retry."

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Er... what????? You mean exactly like in Metal gear Solid, Thief, Splinter Cell and about a hundred million other stealth games???

You couldn't get your hands on those catsuit and a skimpy night-dress concept art pics? That's just bad reader service Eurogamer :).

You couldn't get your hands on those catsuit and a skimpy night-dress concept art pics? That's just bad reader service Eurogamer :).

Heh.

You know what? I'm backing this.

The setting, the sneaking, the fevered dreams in a hospital bed . . it all sounds awesome. I clicked the preview not knowing anything about this title, and now, well, I'm interested.

As always, the proof is in the pudding however, so I just hope the finished game turns out good, and not - ya know - bad

Because the morphine mode and the nightie sound fantastic..

Oh, and now I realise this is being published by Gamecock.

YOU FUCKING INTERRUPTED KEN LEVINE'S AWARD YOU FUCKS

Learn some FUCKING MANNERS.

Ahem.

Bioshock ftw.

"Maybe they should do a WW2 racing game to just cap it all off " - nice one.


"Ze bunker vill last for a sousand years!!!! "

lol ;)


'"I'm so bored of killing Nazi's. "

I don't mind killing Nazi's, but I'm definitely bored of killing German slaves (ie the fodder you usually kill in WW2 games). Not all Germans were sodding Nazi's, not all of them were behind Hitler 100% I'm tired of patronising WW2 games that show the Germans as two-dimensional cartoons every time. It's truly insulting to everyone on the planet.'

A very educated post.


P.S.:

Some of the best, most mature, comments I've read on a video game site. Kudos.

Hmm not sure I can just see this becoming a dissapointment I can you know!

Sometimes I forget to log in and then I see retarded posts like those made by mentalist(air) and then I cry a little bit. :(